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Irock619

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I'm not seeing what the issue is? The band is conforming to your wrist. Of course there's going to be a slight bend where the buckle is. When people purposely go looking for defects they seem to find things that don't exist.
Works just fine for me. Perhaps people should ask if others are having the same issue before declaring something poorly made?

It's ok. Relax don't worry and enjoy life. Its ok that people expect more of Apple. It doesn't make them any less of a fanboy. Some people have no chance of reaching your level of fanboyism however :p
 

Rogifan

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It's ok. Relax don't worry and enjoy life. Its ok that people expect more of Apple. It doesn't make them any less of a fanboy. Some people have no chance of reaching your level of fanboyism however :p
The nylon band isn't defective or of poor quality because it bends a bit to conform to your wrist.
 
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JayLenochiniMac

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The nylon band isn't defective or of poor quality because it bends a bit to conform to your wrist.

Yeah, some of the members here seem to think Apple somehow has a magical ability to prevent what normally occurs with bands, belts, etc. with a classic type of buckle. They must think Apple is truly magical.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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That's not why I started this thread but ok.

Below is one of the posts you quoted, which specifically pertains to the bend in the nylon band where the buckle is after wearing it.

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I'm not seeing what the issue is? The band is conforming to your wrist. Of course there's going to be a slight bend where the buckle is. When people purposely go looking for defects they seem to find things that don't exist.
 

Irock619

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Below is one of the posts you quoted, which specifically pertains to the bend in the nylon band where the buckle is after wearing it.

Yes but I'm talking about the type of responses from Rogifan. Anytime somebody has something critical to say about Apple Rogifan has a heart attack. Which I guess is to be expected from members who's avatar is Jonathan Ive
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Yes but I'm talking about the type of responses from Rogifan. Anytime somebody has something critical to say about Apple Rogifan has a heart attack. Which I guess is to be expected from members who's avatar is Jonathan Ive

The type of responses in your own OP, where you conclude that something is poorly made just because you happened to get a dud, isn't any better :rolleyes:
 
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Irock619

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The type of responses in your own OP, where you conclude that something is poorly made just because you happened to get a dud, isn't any better :rolleyes:

If it was only my response then maybe I could agree. Since the beginning of this thread there have been similar responses and other threads discussing the same topics. Move on if you don't like the responses :cool:
 

JayLenochiniMac

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If it was only my response then maybe I could agree. Since the beginning of this thread there have been similar responses and other threads discussing the same topics. Move on if you don't like the responses :cool:

There are also responses from members whose nylon bands are perfectly fine. So much for being poorly made. All it indicates is there are kinks for Apple to work out, really no different from the batches of defective Space Black link bracelets and black Sport bands when they were first released.
 

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There are also responses from members whose nylon bands are perfectly fine. So much for being poorly made. All it indicates is there are kinks for Apple to work out, really no different from the batches of defective Space Black link bracelets and black Sport bands when they were first released.

When I returned mine today (bought two, both have difficulty locking but one is manageable), I was told the level of returns on these were much higher than usual, and the employee I was talking to went through three before one would actually lock into her watch. I suppose it's not a massive sample size, but I think it'd be foolish to write them off as unique issues.

They are great when they work (and some do - not every band is faulty; it just seems a large number are), but something must be up with these plastic lugs they're using. I think this goes deeper than a black Sport Band peeling - it isn't just cosmetic, and it isn't isolated to a specific size or colour.

I hope Apple get it worked out as they're really comfy and lightweight, but there's definitely something up with them which, at the moment, I think could be classed as being 'poorly made'.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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When I returned mine today (bought two, both have difficulty locking but one is manageable), I was told the level of returns on these were much higher than usual, and the employee I was talking to went through three before one would actually lock into her watch. I suppose it's not a massive sample size, but I think it'd be foolish to write them off as unique issues.

They are great when they work (and some do - not every band is faulty; it just seems a large number are), but something must be up with these plastic lugs they're using. I think this goes deeper than a black Sport Band peeling - it isn't just cosmetic, and it isn't isolated to a specific size or colour.

I hope Apple get it worked out as they're really comfy and lightweight, but there's definitely something up with them which, at the moment, I think could be classed as being 'poorly made'.

I'd call it poorly made if they fail to remedy the first year issues within a reasonable time of frame. The nylon straps haven't really been real-world tested and as such, there are liable to be kinks and such that need to be fine-tuned.

Remember the black and slate iPhone 5? People were getting them scratched and nicked out of the box straight from the factory left and right. They weren't actually what people normally call "poorly made," but the result of factory workers not giving a f and allowing obviously damaged iPhones to make their way into the boxes instead of culling them (as they'd normally do) because they were under great pressure to meet quota. Granted, this is a very different situation, but the point is having first year bugs do not make a product "poorly made" especially due to lack of real-world testing.
 

Tyler23

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Got the pear nylon strap for my SS watch in the mail today. It was tight, but I eventually got it to slide in. Or so I thought. I realized later it never fully clicked in. Now, neither side will come out. I guess it was tighter than I thought.

Going to the Apple Store tomorrow to a) see if they can remove the band from the watch and b) swap it out for one that fits properly.
 

Binarymix

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I'd call it poorly made if they fail to remedy the first year issues within a reasonable time of frame. The nylon straps haven't really been real-world tested and as such, there are liable to be kinks and such that need to be fine-tuned.

Remember the black and slate iPhone 5? People were getting them scratched and nicked out of the box straight from the factory left and right. They weren't actually what people normally call "poorly made," but the result of factory workers not giving a f and allowing obviously damaged iPhones to make their way into the boxes instead of culling them (as they'd normally do) because they were under great pressure to meet quota. Granted, this is a very different situation, but the point is having first year bugs do not make a product "poorly made" especially due to lack of real-world testing.

Eh? They have Stainless steel and Aluminum watches in their hands, these are made with tight machining tolerances. One adapter 'should' fit them all. What we're seeing here is perhaps an anomaly in manufacturing. I wonder if it has to do with expansion and contraction in certain temperature conditions.

Who knows, we don't have all the figures, but in the end, it is still apples fault.
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Eh? They have Stainless steel and Aluminum watches in their hands, these are made with tight machining tolerances. One adapter 'should' fit them all. What we're seeing here is perhaps an anomaly in manufacturing. I wonder if it has to do with expansion and contraction in certain temperature conditions.

Who knows, we don't have all the figures, but in the end, it is still apples fault.

Not necessarily because the lugs on the nylon bands are made of plastic. Have you ever had the plastic iPhone 3G/3GS? These had the worse "fit and finish" of all the iPhones to date. Likewise, vehicles constructed entirely of plastic/fiberglass panels (Saturn, Corvette, etc.) have had relatively poorer fit. It's just the nature of the material making it more difficult to control, and Apple doesn't have a magical ability to circumvent that. Hopefully they'll at least figure something out though.
 
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Irock619

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Not necessarily because the lugs on the nylon bands are made of plastic. Have you ever had the plastic iPhone 3G/3GS? These had the worse "fit and finish" of all the iPhones to date. Likewise, vehicles constructed entirely of plastic/fiberglass panels (Saturn, Corvette, etc.) have had relatively poorer fit. It's just the nature of the material making it more difficult to control, and Apple doesn't have a magical ability to circumvent that. Hopefully they'll at least figure something out though.

Lets close this discussion because your logic is obviously flawed. Comparing an iPhone that was made in 2008-2009 to a watch strap today is beyond crazy. Almost as ridiculous as charging $50 for a "poorly made" nylon watch strap. I have since returned the strap to Apple and ordered an BRG black Milanese stainless steel mesh strap for under $20 on Amazon and the fit is perfect. Go figure!
 

JayLenochiniMac

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Lets close this discussion because your logic is obviously flawed. Comparing an iPhone that was made in 2008-2009 to a watch strap today is beyond crazy. Almost as ridiculous as charging $50 for a "poorly made" nylon watch strap. I have since returned the strap to Apple and ordered an BRG black Milanese stainless steel mesh strap for under $20 on Amazon and the fit is perfect. Go figure!

1) Age of iPhone is irrelevant. The metal original iPhone had a significantly better fit than the plastic 3G/3GS.

2) You can say the same about Apple's charging $50 for their otherwise well-made $2 rubber.

3) Your 3rd party strap has metal lugs, not plastic lugs. Re-read my post about metal vs. plastic.
 

MaulRx

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FYI I picked up the antique pink band also and it has a hard time fitting into the watch just like the nylon. It's worth pointing out that it is currently unavailable online. Maybe a manufacturing problem
 

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While I see a lot of people with no problems with installing these bands, I am disappointed at the number of people in our small segment of society here who have had issues. I get this was a totally new product so am understanding but wonder what happened on the quality control end that they got shipped out. Hubby almost found me a pink one the other day but it was the wrong band size. Only color and last one in the store in late afternoon. I don't think I'll order one online but if I can find one in the store would buy it and have them install it. If it doesn't fit, it gets returned/exchanged right there. I love my zulu 3rd party nylon so am looking forward to these new bands especially for our hot summers. Colors look fun for summer. Thanks for all the pics being posted.
 

Rogifan

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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones. My pink band is fine. Going to pick up a scuba blue one on Friday.
 

Defender2010

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I returned mine yesterday, purely because I feel the plastic lugs cheapen the whole look of the SS watch. I'll be sticking to my link bracelet and leather bands from now on.
 
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