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Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
Camera still has a little delay when you tap the button but it is a lot better but I didn't take that many pics before. Very few really. Here is a pic I took in low light just now and the colors are accurate.
 

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Jschultz

macrumors 6502a
Mar 14, 2005
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Chicago, IL
BTW - before I sideloaded the updates, was I supposed to do anything such as clear the cache partition? I've just noticed I'm having some weird little things like a little lag, and Chrome is having trouble loading.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Nothing yet here.....

And the difference between the quick bug fix roll outs? I got very single one of those iOS updates within 10 minutes - downloaded and installed - of the fix being released.

Still awaiting these camera improvements.
 

appledes7

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Jul 12, 2011
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I sideloaded 4.4.2. The camera app is indeed faster. But now it will often capture a picture before the camera has time to finish focusing, thus you are left with a blurry image. But at least it was taken a little closer to when you pressed the button. There are also some times where the camera thinks it is focused and gives the green lines, but it definitely isn't. There is still clearly room for improvement.
 

Lloydbm41

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Oct 17, 2013
4,019
1,456
Central California
Nothing yet here.....

And the difference between the quick bug fix roll outs? I got very single one of those iOS updates within 10 minutes - downloaded and installed - of the fix being released.

Still awaiting these camera improvements.

You do realize you can pull the factory images direct from Google, within minutes of them being uploaded?

Link: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

And the binaries:
Link: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers#hammerhead

If you don't want to download it yourself and absolutely need Google's assistance with the update, then wait for the update. Personally, I don't need Google to hold my hand.

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My battery seems to not be as good on 4.4.2 and I have ART running since I updated.

Every new update that effects the kernel should be given 3 days to settle before critiquing the battery performance.
 

appledes7

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2011
756
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At least 4.4.2 fixed the landscape multitasking bug and lockscreen icon cutoff. The photosphere button to use the gyroscope is still super pixelated.
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
Every new update that effects the kernel should be given 3 days to settle before critiquing the battery performance.

I hope it gets better. Its actually bad right now. After charging it up, its only been on for 4 hours,26 minutes with 1 hr 27 min of screentime and I'm at 64%.
 
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zbarvian

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Jul 23, 2011
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You do realize you can pull the factory images direct from Google, within minutes of them being uploaded?

Link: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

And the binaries:
Link: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers#hammerhead

If you don't want to download it yourself and absolutely need Google's assistance with the update, then wait for the update. Personally, I don't need Google to hold my hand.

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Every new update that effects the kernel should be given 3 days to settle before critiquing the battery performance.

Is there any scientific grounding behind the "settling" claim? Sounds like tripe to me.
 

Lloydbm41

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Oct 17, 2013
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Central California
Is there any scientific grounding behind the "settling" claim? Sounds like tripe to me.

It takes time for the sensors to recalibrate, including the battery sensors. You may be unfamiliar with accurate sensors if you have an iPhone 5S, so I don't blame you for thinking that. If you don't like the word 'settling', pick another if that makes you feel better.

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I hope it gets better. Its actually bad right now. After charging it up, its only been on for 4 hours,26 minutes with 1 hr 27 min of screentime and I'm at 64%.

Give it 2-3 charges, using it normally and then reassess. Sensors should recalibrate and give you what you saw before.
 

walie

macrumors 6502a
Nov 15, 2010
676
2
Nothing yet here.....

And the difference between the quick bug fix roll outs? I got very single one of those iOS updates within 10 minutes - downloaded and installed - of the fix being released.

Still awaiting these camera improvements.

still complaining?
 

appledes7

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2011
756
0
I hope it gets better. Its actually bad right now. After charging it up, its only been on for 4 hours,26 minutes with 1 hr 27 min of screentime and I'm at 64%.

I never get anything close to that. Today I was on track to do 2 hours SOT with 16 hours total. Normal usage, no gaming, low brightness, and on wifi nearly all day.
 

SlCKB0Y

macrumors 68040
Feb 25, 2012
3,431
557
Sydney, Australia
Is there any scientific grounding behind the "settling" claim? Sounds like tripe to me.

New OS installations/upgrades absolutely do "settle". Caches get re/built, permissions can be off, log files get created/written to, configuration files can have deprecated options, scheduled tasks get run en masse, sensors/meters get calibrated...all these things generally cause CPU, RAM and I/O to be higher than nominal levels and can cause applications to run unpredictably.
 

Cole Slaw

macrumors 65816
Oct 6, 2006
1,023
1,580
Canada
4.4.2 appears to have fixed the issue I was having on 4.4 where I was not being notified of having received a voice mail (had to restart phone to get a notification).
Now I get the notification and a text from the carrier saying I received a voice mail.
Also camera appears to be faster than on 4.4.
 

bmac4

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Feb 14, 2013
4,885
1,877
Atlanta Ga
Nothing yet here.....

And the difference between the quick bug fix roll outs? I got very single one of those iOS updates within 10 minutes - downloaded and installed - of the fix being released.

Still awaiting these camera improvements.

If you don't mind doing the Google framework thing it sends gets the update right away. I did it yesterday.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
still complaining?

Nope - just waiting.

Still being defensive?

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If you don't mind doing the Google framework thing it sends gets the update right away. I did it yesterday.

No idea what that is. I buy devices that work for me - not that I have to search the internet for ways to make it work like its supposed to.

Glad its "easily" downloadable and flashable. I prefer an easy OTA download at least within a day of release.

People keep saying I'm complaining.....all I'm asking is - how hard is this to do? To push updates to a relatively small number of Nexus devices?

And if an update isn't ready? DON'T RELEASE IT.

Its baffling how much people bash Apple for "not testing updates" - at least those fixes address problems.

I'd rather have 5 fixes within a month (all which address different issues mind you) that I can get OTA easily the day they are released than have relatively major issues (I'd say camera quality is a pretty big deal) be addressed, then pulled back, then addressed but not released to everyone and if I want it I have to do the leg work......

Again. Just a simple question. "How hard is it?"

You want to know why I ask this question.

My experience on iOS:

-Update released
-Updated downloaded and installed within 10-15 minutes for a point update (may take up to a day for a major OS release).

My experience on Android:
-Update (4.4) released
-Oops I have a GS4 - no dice. Still on 4.2
-Sold GS4, bought Nexus (because for me, timely updates and Vanilla Android are preferred)
-Update 4.4.1 released to address camera quality
-No update pushed to my device after 4 days
-Ahh, NEW 4.4.2 (because 4.4.1 had bugs....why it was released, who knows)
-2 days later, still no update of any kind (but I do have people whining and crying that all I have to do is go download the update myself, install some Android software on my computer and flash the update manually).

Before you bash me further consider this.....if you owned an iPhone and I told you that in order to something "all you had to do" was plug you phone into iTunes to download something (say ringtones)....how many of you would absolutely crucify me and Apple for being "archaic" and "HOLY MOTHER, I have to actually PLUG SOMETHING IN!?!?!.....
 
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jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX

milo

macrumors 604
Sep 23, 2003
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Google has to not only deal with 5-6 times the number of handsets of Apple...

Not when they're releasing for just Nexus devices initially. They stagger the OS release by phones…then they stagger it again within each phone. Not to mention that the number of Nexus 5 phones sold at this point isn't that high, even if every one of them was updated at once it wouldn't be much bandwidth at all.
 

bmac4

Suspended
Feb 14, 2013
4,885
1,877
Atlanta Ga
Nope - just waiting.

Still being defensive?

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No idea what that is. I buy devices that work for me - not that I have to search the internet for ways to make it work like its supposed to.

Glad its "easily" downloadable and flashable. I prefer an easy OTA download at least within a day of release.

People keep saying I'm complaining.....all I'm asking is - how hard is this to do? To push updates to a relatively small number of Nexus devices?

And if an update isn't ready? DON'T RELEASE IT.

Its baffling how much people bash Apple for "not testing updates" - at least those fixes address problems.

I'd rather have 5 fixes within a month (all which address different issues mind you) that I can get OTA easily the day they are released than have relatively major issues (I'd say camera quality is a pretty big deal) be addressed, then pulled back, then addressed but not released to everyone and if I want it I have to do the leg work......

Again. Just a simple question. "How hard is it?"

You want to know why I ask this question.

My experience on iOS:

-Update released
-Updated downloaded and installed within 10-15 minutes for a point update (may take up to a day for a major OS release).

My experience on Android:
-Update (4.4.1) released
-Oops I have a GS4 - no dice. Still on 4.2
-Sold GS4, bought Nexus (because for me, timely updates and Vanilla Android are preferred)
-Again, 4.4.1 released to address camera quality
-No update pushed to my device after 4 days
-Ahh, NEW 4.4.2 (because 4.4.1 had bugs....why it was released, who knows)
-2 days later, still no update of any kind (but I do have people whining and crying that all I have to do is go download the update myself, install some Android software on my computer and flash the update manually).

Before you bash me further consider this.....if you owned an iPhone and I told you that in order to something "all you had to do" was plug you phone into iTunes to download something (say ringtones)....how many of you would absolutely crucify me and Apple for being "archaic" and "HOLY MOTHER, I have to actually PLUG SOMETHING IN!?!?!.....

All you do is clear the data on the Google framework app and go check your update. It will be there waiting. People are saying it has an effect on notifications not working, but I have done this on all my nexus phones, and it work like a charm. This is not hack, or anything like that. Simply go to the Google framework app and clear data, and go back and check for updates. 4.4.2 will be waiting on you.
 
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