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jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
If you find sideloading using adb hard then stick to your Apple devices lol. Me personally i like getting my hands dirty and learning how things work, this mentality has helped me greatly in my career and life in general. Its like asking a kid these days to try and do homework without a computer, they would not know how to find information in a book lol.

Given I'm not terribly knowledgeable when it comes to coding, yes it was a bit difficult.

I was able to figure it out but for people like me - those who have no background in computer engineering (and have jobs in various OTHER areas), but are very interested in technology - when what I'm seeing on my screen varies wildly from the instructions being given, things get a little hairy and difficult.

Not all of us have inordinate amounts of time to learn all of this stuff. My job is sales and my work on an MBA is in marketing. I spend my days working toward those ends....the little hobby time I have is split between sports and tech. So, instead of indirectly insulting my intelligence/desire or ability to learn, simply understand that not everyone is like you.

FWIW, now that I've gone through the process and setup once - I'll have no problem side loading in the future. I had driver issues and spent much of the time searching for fixes that made my device visible in the device manager. I found a few lines of code and instructions on where to put it - and after all of that, was able to follow the instructions on using the adb commands to sideload the update. The adb interface/commands were not the problem. The setting up and manipulating the driver file was.
 

milo

macrumors 604
Sep 23, 2003
6,891
523
You do realize that it isn't just Nexus devices that download those factory images?

Yes. But most updates use a delta instead of the factory images. Every user that learns about the update but doesn't have it show up fairly quickly OTA and downloads the full factory image is using a lot more of Google's bandwidth. Google's release process has already been discussed, it's supposedly because of potential bugs, not bandwidth.

You also have no idea how many Nexus 5 devices have been sold.

Not specifically, but it's not like they've sold millions of them.


The camera update is nice but there's still lots of room for improvement. Some good pictures but far too often it just doesn't focus before taking the picture. Not motion blur, just taking the shot before it focuses.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
14,738
6,109
Yes. But most updates use a delta instead of the factory images. Every user that learns about the update but doesn't have it show up fairly quickly OTA and downloads the full factory image is using a lot more of Google's bandwidth. Google's release process has already been discussed, it's supposedly because of potential bugs, not bandwidth.



Not specifically, but it's not like they've sold millions of them.


The camera update is nice but there's still lots of room for improvement. Some good pictures but far too often it just doesn't focus before taking the picture. Not motion blur, just taking the shot before it focuses.

You have to wait for the green :)
 

thadoggfather

macrumors P6
Oct 1, 2007
16,134
17,049
Looks like early adopters got screwed.

you can always just RMA.

I'm holding onto mine personally.

the vibrate on my first RMA is great, the first one was noisy and lousy.

The screen is excellent too, especially with franco kernel+his older screen calibration built in. Makes the screen white and saturated.

As for buttons, I use a diztronic tpu so i couldnt care less. Not to mention double tap 2 wake and "screen off and lock" gesture app too.
 
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Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
you can always just RMA.

I'm holding onto mine personally.

the vibrate on my first RMA is great, the first one was noisy and lousy.

The screen is excellent too, especially with franco kernel+his older screen calibration built in. Makes the screen white and saturated.

As for buttons, I use a diztronic tpu so i couldnt care less. Not to mention double tap 2 wake and "screen off and lock" gesture app too.

Is that an app to double tap? If so, what Is it?
 

Jschultz

macrumors 6502a
Mar 14, 2005
880
13
Chicago, IL
New hardware revision for the Nexus 5 brings improved speakers and stuff.


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F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
3,776
16
Del Mar, CA
I wouldn't call cutting the speaker holes larger much of an improvement but the 4.4.2 update definitely helped with the volume though.

The stiffer buttons is a welcome since my power button is slightly loose (no rattle) but using a case fixed that problem.

My screen is excellent. No issues at all so don't want to chance replacing it and end up with a different problem and end up being one of those people who replace their phone 5 times trying to find the perfect one.
 

thadoggfather

macrumors P6
Oct 1, 2007
16,134
17,049
I wouldn't call cutting the speaker holes larger much of an improvement but the 4.4.2 update definitely helped with the volume though.

The stiffer buttons is a welcome since my power button is slightly loose (no rattle) but using a case fixed that problem.

My screen is excellent. No issues at all so don't want to chance replacing it and end up with a different problem and end up being one of those people who replace their phone 5 times trying to find the perfect one.

Pretty much this. My first nexus 5 had 4 specks of dust one in every corner except top right but one in the dead center to make up for it. This one has zero that I've seen in my weeks of using it
 

Lloydbm41

Suspended
Oct 17, 2013
4,019
1,456
Central California
Looks like early adopters got screwed.

Just like early adopters of the iPhone 4 with antenna-gate, the iPhone 5 with dent/scratch/bend-gate, the iMac 2010 27" with memory/screen-gate or every single iPad with light-bleed gate?
I had/have all of them, along with the Nexus 5 and do not feel 'screwed'? But I also have a perfect Nexus 5, so can't complain about that phone.
 

2298754

Cancelled
Jun 21, 2010
4,890
941
Just like early adopters of the iPhone 4 with antenna-gate, the iPhone 5 with dent/scratch/bend-gate, the iMac 2010 27" with memory/screen-gate or every single iPad with light-bleed gate? .

Spare me the drama.

I've owned a launch day 3G, 3GS, 4, 5, iPad 2, and iPad 3. They were all flawless.

I'm not surprised one bit by the poor quality of the Nexus 5. The 4 was a POS. They are LG products, after all...
 

Lloydbm41

Suspended
Oct 17, 2013
4,019
1,456
Central California
Spare me the drama.

I've owned a launch day 3G, 3GS, 4, 5, iPad 2, and iPad 3. They were all flawless.

I'm not surprised one bit by the poor quality of the Nexus 5. The 4 was a POS. They are LG products, after all...

So no light-bleed on any of your products? Don't answer, that was rhetorical.

Drama though? Hardly. Having owned all the iPhones (except for the 5S), and the Nexus 4 and 5, I can say the quality of the Nexus 4 and 5 have been excellent. So, what Nexus devices have you owned?
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I dont feel screwed. So the speakers holes are a little bigger :rolleyes:

The volume is better since the update and i dont have button problems. The only thing i dont like so far is since the 4.4.2 update, my battery isnt as good after a couple of charge ups. Hopefully after a couple more it is a little better. The past two days since the update i was using my GPS a lot as i drove to San Jose and back doing some things there.
 

appledes7

macrumors 6502a
Jul 12, 2011
756
0
Mine currently has a loose power button. So I will probably go for an RMA. Speaker holes aren't a big deal to me.
 

torana355

macrumors 68040
Dec 8, 2009
3,633
2,734
Sydney, Australia
Given I'm not terribly knowledgeable when it comes to coding, yes it was a bit difficult.

I was able to figure it out but for people like me - those who have no background in computer engineering (and have jobs in various OTHER areas), but are very interested in technology - when what I'm seeing on my screen varies wildly from the instructions being given, things get a little hairy and difficult.

Not all of us have inordinate amounts of time to learn all of this stuff. My job is sales and my work on an MBA is in marketing. I spend my days working toward those ends....the little hobby time I have is split between sports and tech. So, instead of indirectly insulting my intelligence/desire or ability to learn, simply understand that not everyone is like you.

FWIW, now that I've gone through the process and setup once - I'll have no problem side loading in the future. I had driver issues and spent much of the time searching for fixes that made my device visible in the device manager. I found a few lines of code and instructions on where to put it - and after all of that, was able to follow the instructions on using the adb commands to sideload the update. The adb interface/commands were not the problem. The setting up and manipulating the driver file was.

Fair enough but im not a computer engineer by any stretch of the imagination however i was able to find out how to setup the ADB drivers in 5 mins using Google. I did not mean to insult your intelligence i was just pointing out that Android requires a bit more mucking around then Apple devices to get setup.

If you don't have the time to tinker then Android is probably not the right choice for you. However some people like me enjoy a more complex system, it makes me think and gives me gratification when i figure out how to do something. Its all personal preference. It just gets old when every second post of yours is a negative swipe at Android.
 

OhHaiThere

macrumors regular
Sep 8, 2011
143
0
USA
My first Nexus 5 had a problem with the bottom speaker. It would sometimes cut out. Google RMA was painless. Sent me a link to order a new phone (no charge, just a hold for the price of the new phone), got it 2-3 days later and sent away my old phone. No problems since.
 

slitherjef

macrumors 65816
Feb 8, 2012
1,402
1,189
Earth
Ended up cracking the screen on my Nexus 5 today :(

Got caught in my pocket while I was pulling it out and it roll / slid / tumbled down my leg to the sidewalk.

scuffed up one side and a crack that goes into the display on the bottom left corner.

The good news is, the device still works, the crack is fairly out of the way. And yes, perhaps a case would have helped. The ironic thing is, I had a case in my cart but decided to wait to see if I got any gift cards before springing for it.

Oh well. :(
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Fair enough but im not a computer engineer by any stretch of the imagination however i was able to find out how to setup the ADB drivers in 5 mins using Google. I did not mean to insult your intelligence i was just pointing out that Android requires a bit more mucking around then Apple devices to get setup.



If you don't have the time to tinker then Android is probably not the right choice for you. However some people like me enjoy a more complex system, it makes me think and gives me gratification when i figure out how to do something. Its all personal preference. It just gets old when every second post of yours is a negative swipe at Android.


I actually like Android. Yes, there are things that bug me. But there are also things that bug me about iOS. We aren't in a thread discussing iOS.

Sometimes the tinkering is fun....been on various Android devices since February and have simply decided I prefer stock, Vanilla Android. One of the main reasons is due to timely upgrades - hence my bellyaching.

All-in-all no harm, no foul. As I said, now that I have it all fixed and up and running it shouldn't be difficult going forward.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
My first Nexus 5 had a problem with the bottom speaker. It would sometimes cut out. Google RMA was painless. Sent me a link to order a new phone (no charge, just a hold for the price of the new phone), got it 2-3 days later and sent away my old phone. No problems since.

You only have 15 days to do a RMA , right? How does the warranty work if you bought it from Google?
 

dgr874

macrumors member
Aug 29, 2012
88
21
Texas
Well, thanks to much of the great info in this thread, I ordered mine last night. Its going to be my first android phone after owning a lot of iPhones and even a few windows phones thrown in.

Thanks everyone for your insights!
 
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