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Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
I took off my Slim Armor case today to check out these known problems. My volume button barely moves , power button is a bit loose and as i mentioned before, if i shake it, it has a slight rattle but that is right up next to my ear. I would not have even notice it if it werent for posters here mentioning it.

Picked up my GS3 and both volume and power buttons are looser on that by far than on my Nexus 5 and it never bothered me and the vibrate on that is much stronger and i never noticed a rattle.

My conclusion is my phone works great, no issues so im going to keep it and not fret these minor issues...which with the Slim Armor case on it arent issues at all.
 

milo

macrumors 604
Sep 23, 2003
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I'm not surprised one bit by the poor quality of the Nexus 5.

Poor quality? The hardware update seems extremely minor, potentially something many users wouldn't even be able to notice. I'm extremely happy with the hardware, even the first revision. I hope they keep working on the camera software but other than that it has been great.
 

IFRIT

macrumors 6502a
Oct 15, 2012
840
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Spare me the drama.

I've owned a launch day 3G, 3GS, 4, 5, iPad 2, and iPad 3. They were all flawless.

I'm not surprised one bit by the poor quality of the Nexus 5. The 4 was a POS. They are LG products, after all...

You don't know what you are talking about the 4 was not a POS it was a well put together phone the only weaknesses being the back but the same could be said for the iPhone 4/S and not the best speaker. And any review I've seen has commented on how nice the Nexus 5 is put together. Most of the problems with low sound was software related and has since been fixed.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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6,109
You don't know what you are talking about the 4 was not a POS it was a well put together phone the only weaknesses being the back but the same could be said for the iPhone 4/S and not the best speaker. And any review I've seen has commented on how nice the Nexus 5 is put together. Most of the problems with low sound was software related and has since been fixed.

edit: nm
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
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Ok, so just found out that a local store will get the Nexus 5 in a week or so. I'm thinking of buying it. It's the 16GB model only.

Few questions:

- Is the screen as good as the one on the LG G2? Is it very bright? How about the colors? Are they washed out like on the iPad Mini 2 or no?

- Is the speaker audio really a big problem that would prevent you owners from buying it again if you knew beforehand?

- Are the hardware power and volume buttons solid? This is my biggest concern. I have a SGS3 and the buttons are just horrible. I don't want another phone with bad plastic buttons like the SGS3. I want one with solid buttons like the ones in the iPhone 4S, 5 or 5S. Are the buttons as good as the ones in the iPhones?

- Do you think I should buy this or wait for the HTC One 2014? Do you guys think it will be better? I was waiting for this because of the metal body. Like I said previously, I want a solid body and solid buttons, and I think the HTC One 2014 will have this.

- Do you guys think the camera is at least as good as the one on my SGS3? I want at least on par quality, not worse.

Thanks.
 

JaySoul

macrumors 68030
Jan 30, 2008
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Ok, so just found out that a local store will get the Nexus 5 in a week or so. I'm thinking of buying it. It's the 16GB model only.

Few questions:

- Is the screen as good as the one on the LG G2? Is it very bright? How about the colors? Are they washed out like on the iPad Mini 2 or no?

- Is the speaker audio really a big problem that would prevent you owners from buying it again if you knew beforehand?

- Are the hardware power and volume buttons solid? This is my biggest concern. I have a SGS3 and the buttons are just horrible. I don't want another phone with bad plastic buttons like the SGS3. I want one with solid buttons like the ones in the iPhone 4S, 5 or 5S. Are the buttons as good as the ones in the iPhones?

- Do you think I should buy this or wait for the HTC One 2014? Do you guys think it will be better? I was waiting for this because of the metal body. Like I said previously, I want a solid body and solid buttons, and I think the HTC One 2014 will have this.

- Do you guys think the camera is at least as good as the one on my SGS3? I want at least on par quality, not worse.

Thanks.

From what you're saying, I'd recommend you wait for the new HTC One.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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5,097
Ok, so just found out that a local store will get the Nexus 5 in a week or so. I'm thinking of buying it. It's the 16GB model only.

Few questions:

- Is the screen as good as the one on the LG G2? Is it very bright? How about the colors? Are they washed out like on the iPad Mini 2 or no?

- Is the speaker audio really a big problem that would prevent you owners from buying it again if you knew beforehand?

- Are the hardware power and volume buttons solid? This is my biggest concern. I have a SGS3 and the buttons are just horrible. I don't want another phone with bad plastic buttons like the SGS3. I want one with solid buttons like the ones in the iPhone 4S, 5 or 5S. Are the buttons as good as the ones in the iPhones?

- Do you think I should buy this or wait for the HTC One 2014? Do you guys think it will be better? I was waiting for this because of the metal body. Like I said previously, I want a solid body and solid buttons, and I think the HTC One 2014 will have this.

- Do you guys think the camera is at least as good as the one on my SGS3? I want at least on par quality, not worse.

Thanks.

I was going to recommend the HTC One...until you specified your camera requirement. ;)

And you may not want to wait for the next iteration of the One as early rumors/leaks show it using that damn ultra pixel camera. However, The M8 just got it's wifi alliance certification (6 weeks earlier than the One last year) so at least you may not have to wait too long to find out (the One was announced mid-Feb last year).
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
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I was going to recommend the HTC One...until you specified your camera requirement. ;)

And you may not want to wait for the next iteration of the One as early rumors/leaks show it using that damn ultra pixel camera. However, The M8 just got it's wifi alliance certification (6 weeks earlier than the One last year) so at least you may not have to wait too long to find out (the One was announced mid-Feb last year).

I've read that it will be an 8 megapixel ultra-pixel :rolleyes::rolleyes: so I guess it will be better than the One 2013.

I would prefer the Nexus 5 because of the stock experience, but the known problems are making me think about it harder: buttons, speakers, battery, camera.

I also think the HTC One 2014 will have a bigger battery (maybe 3000 like the LG G2), but like I said, I like the Nexus 5 more because of software, but don't want bad buttons like the ones on my SGS3 that don't feel solid.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
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I've read that it will be an 8 megapixel ultra-pixel :rolleyes::rolleyes: so I guess it will be better than the One 2013.

I would prefer the Nexus 5 because of the stock experience, but the known problems are making me think about it harder: buttons, speakers, battery, camera.

I also think the HTC One 2014 will have a bigger battery (maybe 3000 like the LG G2), but like I said, I like the Nexus 5 more because of software, but don't want bad buttons like the ones on my SGS3 that don't feel solid.

My launch day version had solid buttons, but apparently they have fixed it for new devices. They changed the buttons and speaker grills.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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I've read that it will be an 8 megapixel ultra-pixel :rolleyes::rolleyes: so I guess it will be better than the One 2013.

I would prefer the Nexus 5 because of the stock experience, but the known problems are making me think about it harder: buttons, speakers, battery, camera.

I also think the HTC One 2014 will have a bigger battery (maybe 3000 like the LG G2), but like I said, I like the Nexus 5 more because of software, but don't want bad buttons like the ones on my SGS3 that don't feel solid.

Well, I hope you're right because every rumor or spec leak I've read for the past week or two shows it using the same 4 MP "Ultra Pixel" camera. :(
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
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Well, I hope you're right because every rumor or spec leak I've read for the past week or two shows it using the same 4 MP "Ultra Pixel" camera. :(

That can't be true. It wouldn't make any sense for them to not improve the camera :confused::confused:

I remember I saw something about an 8 megapixel ultrapixel camera in the new model.

HTC would be really stupid to release the new One with the same camera.
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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That can't be true. It wouldn't make any sense for them to not improve the camera :confused::confused:

I remember I saw something about an 8 megapixel ultrapixel camera in the new model.

HTC would be really stupid to release the new One with the same camera.

Well, this article points to info obtained from an early benchmark of the device and sadly it points to the same camera. Let's hope they're just using them in early prototypes and that'll the new model will actually have an upgraded shooter. I too find it hard to believe that they'd stick with the same camera module considering it's easily the big criticism of an otherwise terrific handset.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
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So are the hardware buttons at least better than on Samsung phones like SGS3, SGS4 and Note 3? I read they are ceramic so that should be better.
 

SlCKB0Y

macrumors 68040
Feb 25, 2012
3,431
557
Sydney, Australia
I would prefer the Nexus 5 because of the stock experience, but the known problems are making me think about it harder: buttons, speakers, battery, camera.

Affecting what proportion of users exactly? People dont exactly take to forums to rejoice in their new device.

1. Buttons - The mildly loose buttons were not present on the white Nexus 5, only the black and I believe the new hardware revision changes this.

2. Speakers - Again, speaker holes have been increased in size in the latest hardware revision and volume has been increased through software updates.

3. Battery - I have no idea what people are talking about with regards to battery life. I get great battery life and Anandtech (the only reviewers who actually did timed tests), found the battery to be above average:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3

Check out my "crappy" battery life. This is with everything enabled except NFC and Google Now, brightness on auto.

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4. Camera - Just curious, but have you been asleep for the last few weeks?

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/5/5175568/fixing-the-nexus-5-android-4-4-1-improves-camera

IN ONLY FIVE WEEKS, GOOGLE MASSIVELY UPGRADED THE NEXUS 5'S CAMERA
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
2
Affecting what proportion of users exactly? People dont exactly take to forums to rejoice in their new device.

1. Buttons - The mildly loose buttons were not present on the white Nexus 5, only the black and I believe the new hardware revision changes this.

2. Speakers - Again, speaker holes have been increased in size in the latest hardware revision and volume has been increased through software updates.

3. Battery - I have no idea what people are talking about with regards to battery life. I get great battery life and Anandtech (the only reviewers who actually did timed tests), found the battery to be above average:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7517/google-nexus-5-review/3

Check out my "crappy" battery life. This is with everything enabled except NFC and Google Now, brightness on auto.

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4. Camera - Just curious, but have you been asleep for the last few weeks?

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/5/5175568/fixing-the-nexus-5-android-4-4-1-improves-camera

Not true at all about Anandtech doing timed tests. Many reviewers did, like Verge, Engadget, GSMArena, Phonearena. Also, I think the battery would be significantly worse with Google Now enabled, a bummer because it's so cool.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Not true at all about Anandtech doing timed tests. Many reviewers did, like Verge, Engadget, GSMArena, Phonearena. Also, I think the battery would be significantly worse with Google Now enabled, a bummer because it's so cool.

Who doesnt have Google Now enabled? I never turn mine off. I havent seen anybody here say they have it turned off unless ive missed it. The post you replied to, thats pretty good battery life.
 

SlCKB0Y

macrumors 68040
Feb 25, 2012
3,431
557
Sydney, Australia
Not true at all about Anandtech doing timed tests. Many reviewers did, like Verge, Engadget, GSMArena, Phonearena.

Provide some links.

Almost all the reviews I read stated that the battery would "last them the day" or "wouldn't last them the day", or "felt short".

None of them had any decent testing methodology such as controlling for other variables. They stuck the phone in their pocket for a few days, walked around with it, did whatever tasks and tests with it that popped into their head and then described their "feelings" regarding the battery life.

Anandtech did variable controlled tests which were properly timed and then these results were then compared to a numerous of other phones doing exactly the same tests in exactly the same conditions.

I've found the Nexus 5 battery to excellent except during one task. The issue is that is one task was what most of the reviewers were doing a hell of a lot during their testing. Taking photos. I've found that taking photos on the Nexus 5 burns through battery pretty fast (i'm talking a percent every couple of minutes). So, Topolosky et al were out there, testing the camera one day, taking hundreds of pics and then getting poor battery life compared to the next day when they weren't testing the battery life and then decides to call it "inconsistent" with out attempting to work out why.

Why would they do this? Because they are all in a massive rush to be the first to get their reviews out.

Anandtech took a few weeks, did literally dozens if not hundreds of tests to base their review on, but you'd rather believe what Topolsky's "gut" tells him. :rolleyes:

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Who doesnt have Google Now enabled? I never turn mine off. I havent seen anybody here say they have it turned off unless ive missed it. The post you replied to, thats pretty good battery life.

I turn mine off because I dont need it and i find it a little creepy :D

Maybe Ill leave it on for the next charge and see what I get.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
2
Who doesnt have Google Now enabled? I never turn mine off. I havent seen anybody here say they have it turned off unless ive missed it. The post you replied to, thats pretty good battery life.

I agree that was pretty good battery life, but he said he had everything enabled besides Google Now.

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Provide some links.

Almost all the reviews I read stated that the battery would "last them the day" or "wouldn't last them the day", or "felt short".

None of them had any decent testing methodology such as controlling for other variables. They stuck the phone in their pocket for a few days, walked around with it, did whatever tasks and tests with it that popped into their head and then described their "feelings" regarding the battery life.

Anandtech did variable controlled tests which were properly timed and then these results were then compared to a numerous of other phones doing exactly the same tests in exactly the same conditions.

I've found the Nexus 5 battery to excellent except during one task. The issue is that is one task was what most of the reviewers were doing a hell of a lot during their testing. Taking photos. I've found that taking photos on the Nexus 5 burns through battery pretty fast (i'm talking a percent every couple of minutes). So, Topolosky et al were out there, testing the camera one day, taking hundreds of pics and then getting poor battery life compared to the next day when they weren't testing the battery life and then decides to call it "inconsistent" with out attempting to work out why.

Why would they do this? Because they are all in a massive rush to be the first to get their reviews out.

Anandtech took a few weeks, did literally dozens if not hundreds of tests to base their review on, but you'd rather believe what Topolsky's "gut" tells him. :rolleyes:

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I turn mine off because I dont need it and i find it a little creepy :D

Maybe Ill leave it on for the next charge and see what I get.

You can find quantified numbers under similar testing conditions at each of those sites I mentioned for their review of the phone. The Verge does a video test, GSM arena does a web browsing, video, and talk test, and so on. The Verge disturbingly said the N5 scored near the lowest on any smartphone in recent times.

Again, I'm not making claims about the battery life, because I don't own one yet and know that much comes down to how you use the phone. But Anandtech is hardly the only one to run it through battery benchmarks.
 

bmac4

Suspended
Feb 14, 2013
4,885
1,877
Atlanta Ga
I agree that was pretty good battery life, but he said he had everything enabled besides Google Now.



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You can find quantified numbers under similar testing conditions at each of those sites I mentioned for their review of the phone. The Verge does a video test, GSM arena does a web browsing, video, and talk test, and so on. The Verge disturbingly said the N5 scored near the lowest on any smartphone in recent times.



Again, I'm not making claims about the battery life, because I don't own one yet and know that much comes down to how you use the phone. But Anandtech is hardly the only one to run it through battery benchmarks.


You don't get it do you? The verge put out there review the day after the phone was released. How is that any time to really test a phone? Engadget's was only a couple of days after that. Engadget's review if I remember correctly just said it was inconsistent. Again Anatech was the only review that took their time, and did the leg work needed. All the other sites like stated before rushed to be first with the review.

Try looking for some reviews that are done now a month after release and see what you get. Sure the battery life is not killer, but it gets the job done, and I have no issues making it through a day.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I turn mine off because I dont need it and i find it a little creepy :D

Maybe Ill leave it on for the next charge and see what I get.
I must have missed that. Not sure what is creepy about, i like it. I see these times of 1 day + and 4-5 hours of SOT and i wonder who has what turned on. The things i turn off are Bluetooth, which really dorsnt take any power anyways and sometimes i turn off my wi-fi. Most times i leave it on. Google Now is always on. Also it seems when my battery gets to 50%, it slows down and takes longer to drain for whatever reason.
 
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tjl3

macrumors 6502a
Mar 8, 2012
595
4
You don't know what you are talking about the 4 was not a POS it was a well put together phone the only weaknesses being the back but the same could be said for the iPhone 4/S and not the best speaker. And any review I've seen has commented on how nice the Nexus 5 is put together. Most of the problems with low sound was software related and has since been fixed.

Meh, personally speaking the Nexus 5 is miles ahead of the Nexus 4, kudos to LG for getting it right. With the Nexus 4 I felt it was you get what you paid for. I even RMA'd my original and still had all the issues. But with the 5, it is my favorite phone on the market.

I loved the physical design of the 4, but between the battery, overheating, camera, and having one of the worst screens on the market, it was such a terrible experience. With the 5, I had to see it in person before rolling the dice. Apparently I have a gen 2 version, the speakers are top notch, the screen is such a huge difference maker, the snappiness, etc. I feel like, in this world of iterative changes, the 5 is several years ahead of the 4.

The only downside is actually the battery, although I haven't tweaked the Google Services like bmac suggested. It gets me through most of my day, but by the time I get home from work it is at about 8%. Not a deal breaker, it certainly holds its own. But definitely loving the 5!
 

JackieInCo

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Jul 18, 2013
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Meh, personally speaking the Nexus 5 is miles ahead of the Nexus 4, kudos to LG for getting it right. With the Nexus 4 I felt it was you get what you paid for. I even RMA'd my original and still had all the issues. But with the 5, it is my favorite phone on the market.

I loved the physical design of the 4, but between the battery, overheating, camera, and having one of the worst screens on the market, it was such a terrible experience. With the 5, I had to see it in person before rolling the dice. Apparently I have a gen 2 version, the speakers are top notch, the screen is such a huge difference maker, the snappiness, etc. I feel like, in this world of iterative changes, the 5 is several years ahead of the 4.

The only downside is actually the battery, although I haven't tweaked the Google Services like bmac suggested. It gets me through most of my day, but by the time I get home from work it is at about 8%. Not a deal breaker, it certainly holds its own. But definitely loving the 5!

If you haven't been keeping up, there are people who are returning the 5 for replacements due to loose buttons and other problems. I don't think LG got it right this time. I have a Nexus 4 and decided to wait till next year to see if it's any better. I got a 5S instead.
 

bmac4

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If you haven't been keeping up, there are people who are returning the 5 for replacements due to loose buttons and other problems. I don't think LG got it right this time. I have a Nexus 4 and decided to wait till next year to see if it's any better. I got a 5S instead.


The buttons on my iPhone 4S are loose. The home, volume buttons, and silent switch all move around. Sorry but this is not just some bad quality phone from LG. I have not found a phone yet that does not have some play in the buttons. How many people have had to get new iPhones because the home button does not work properly? Acting as if LG just made a crappy product is just false. Hope you enjoy your 5S, but you are truly missing out on a great phone in the N5.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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2
The buttons on my iPhone 4S are loose. The home, volume buttons, and silent switch all move around. Sorry but this is not just some bad quality phone from LG. I have not found a phone yet that does not have some play in the buttons. How many people have had to get new iPhones because the home button does not work properly? Acting as if LG just made a crappy product is just false. Hope you enjoy your 5S, but you are truly missing out on a great phone in the N5.

Yeah I don't get the fuss with the loose buttons. The power button on my brand new retina Mini wiggles a little bit and rattles slightly if I shake it, almost all of them do. Most Apple products had this behavior, it's in no way indicative of poor quality.
 
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