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Tig Bitties

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I'm more inclined to believe this. They are going based on screen size. It makes sense to call it a nexus 5 (2014) like they did with the n7.

Are they going to call it a nexus 7 (phone) next year? It seems screen size is what they started in 2012 and will continue to use.

That or they will drop the numbering scheme all together.

The Nexus-One didn't have a 1" screen

I bet 75% that the new Nexus smartphone coming this Oct / Nov, will be named the Nexus 6.

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Nexus 4...4"
Nexus 5...4.95" basically 5"

Unless they are done with tablets, the names/numbers will start to conflict.

The Nexus 4 has a 4.7" screen, same exact size as the Nexus before it, the Galaxy Nexus also had a 4.7" screen.
 

mattopotamus

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The Nexus-One didn't have a 1" screen

I bet 75% that the new Nexus smartphone coming this Oct / Nov, will be named the Nexus 6.

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The Nexus 4 has a 4.7" screen, same exact size as the Nexus before it, the Galaxy Nexus also had a 4.7" screen.

That is why I said they started that in 2012 with the naming.
 

Tig Bitties

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That is why I said they started that in 2012 with the naming.

I still think was due to generation of phone, why they named it with numbers recently, just like the first Nexus-One, and read that awhile back, need to find the interview.
 

tbayrgs

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While there's certainly no absolute way to know, I tend to lean toward's Mattopotamus' belief in naming based on device size. IIRC, the first gen Nexus 7 tablet was released in Summer 2012, a devices whose name clearly signifies it's screen size. The Nexus 4 was released at the same time as the Nexus 10, another device whose name signifies its display size. Yes, the Nexus 4's display is closer to 5" than 4" but the shortfall is significant enough to not be able to advertise it as a 'Nexus 5.' Since Google's first released a device named after its display size, all Nexus names do match their displays (more or less).

And I think his point about the name of the Nexus phone after this upcoming generation is most significant. If Google is just naming based on device generation, they obviously can't call that phone the Nexus 7.

What's more believable, Google using a consistent naming methodology for all of their devices, or using two different systems which will ultimately cause a significant conflict?
 

Tig Bitties

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Out of all five generations of Nexus phones, only one was named to match it's screen the size, the Nexus 5 having a 5.0" screen, that was the only phone to follow the screen size naming scheme.

Nexus-One = first gen Nexus phone
Nexus 4 = fourth gen Nexus phone
Nexus 5 = fifth gen Nexus phone

The Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 both shared the same 4.7" screen.

The new Google phone coming this Fall, will be named Nexus 6

But whatever, let's just get a solid phone this time, with a beefy battery.
 
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SpoonCody

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What's going to be funny is that Google will release a 5.5" Nexus and call it the Nexus 6 and the argument for both sides -- named after closest screen size vs named after generation number -- will both still hold true. :p

Personally, as others have said, I think it's now based on screen size. It might have been based on generation before, but now that the Nexus branding spans multiple device-sizes, it doesn't make any sense to call it by generation anymore.

The Nexus One - this is the first and may have been named "One" to signify the first generation. This is before the Nexus 7 or 10 existed. So that makes sense.

The Nexus S - 2nd Generation. I think this had more to do with tying in with Samsung's growing popular "Galaxy S" branding, than anything to do with generation signifier/screen size.

Galaxy Nexus - 3rd Gen. Same deal as above; I think this was more about tying in with Samsung branding. "Galaxy".

Nexus 4 - As others have said, this is a happy coincidence that it's 4th generation. This is around when the Nexus 7 was gaining popularity. Why would they name the phone after generation, but the tablet after screen size? Shouldn't the Nexus 7 have been Nexus "One" of some sort? It's just a happy coincidence. It'd be somewhat misleading to claim it's a Nexus 5 as it's not nearly quite close to a 5" screen.

Nexus 5 - Again, happy coincidence that this is a 5th generation device. Now you have the Nexus 7 and Nexus 10. Why aren't the Nexus tablets named Nexus "Two" and Nexus "One" (10") if it were based on generation? 4.98 is now much closer to 5" and so Google can confidently label it a Nexus 5 while hitting that happy coincidence that it's also the 5th generation device. Maybe that's what they wanted to do all along; hit both links (screen size and generation number).

Nexus 6 - As I said above, if this ends up being a 5.5" device, Google might be daring enough to call it a Nexus 6 and it would once again be a happy coincidence that hits on both screen size/generation number. The rumored Nexus 8 (shouldn't this be a Nexus "One" again of its kind?) would fill that tablet space as well. If the next generation Nexus retains its 5"-ish size, I predict it will be called Nexus 5 (2014).



But as others have mentioned, the number one reason why its not based on generation number is because it would one day soon conflict with the tablet names. The 7th generation Nexus smartphone would then be called a Nexus 7? That just doesn't make much sense. Whether the previous devices were based on screen size or generation number, you can rest assured it won't be based on generation numbers moving forward.

That's my take anyway. It just makes everything cleaner and more organized to go by screen size too. Nexus 5, Nexus 7, Nexus 8, Nexus 10. Easier for consumers to understand.
 

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Out of all five generations of Nexus phones, only one was named to match it's screen the size, the Nexus 5 having a 5.0" screen, that was the only phone to follow the screen size naming scheme.

Nexus-One = first gen Nexus phone
Nexus 4 = fourth gen Nexus phone
Nexus 5 = fifth gen Nexus phone

The Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 4 both shared the same 4.7" screen.

The new Google phone coming this Fall, will be named Nexus 6

But whatever, let's just get a solid phone this time, with a beefy battery.

If they have been naming nexus after generations from the beginning as you claim, then why did we get a Nexus S and a Galaxy Nexus?

If they are naming generations then why name tablets to screen size but not phones? Why the inconsistency?
 

Tig Bitties

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We are still about 3 months away from the next Nexus phone release, so still early to get any solid rumors or news yet.

But what legit guess do you think Google will choose as the manufacturer for the Nexus 6 ? Asus, Sony, HTC ?
 

SpoonCody

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We are still about 3 months away from the next Nexus phone release, so still early to get any solid rumors or news yet.

But what legit guess do you think Google will choose as the manufacturer for the Nexus 6 ? Asus, Sony, HTC ?

Ya. Very curious about who Google will be going with this year. My wishes in order:

1) Motorola
2) Sony -- I'd be almost equally excited if it was Sony instead of Motorola. So this is almost a tie.
3) HTC
4) Maybe some wild card like Xiaomi or Nokia would be very interesting and potentially exciting.
5) The rest (Samsung, ASUS, etc.)
 

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If they have been naming nexus after generations from the beginning as you claim, then why did we get a Nexus S and a Galaxy Nexus?

If they are naming generations then why name tablets to screen size but not phones? Why the inconsistency?

Doesn't really matter since those were the second and third phones and then the Nexus 4 came out which matches since it was the fourth phone. Then we got the Nexus 5. Sounds right to me but again, who cares. The next one can be called the Nexus Silver, Gold, 6, or whatever and I'll be interested and might just buy it.....unless they make it too big.

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Ya. Very curious about who Google will be going with this year. My wishes in order:

1) Motorola
2) Sony -- I'd be almost equally excited if it was Sony instead of Motorola. So this is almost a tie.
3) HTC
4) Maybe some wild card like Xiaomi or Nokia would be very interesting and potentially exciting.
5) The rest (Samsung, ASUS, etc.)

I'd love to see Nokia make it but i think that's a long shot. Probably Moto, LG or HTC.
 

SpoonCody

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I'd love to see Nokia make it but i think that's a long shot. Probably Moto, LG or HTC.

Don't think it'd be LG again right? They had it for the past 2 years and it seems like Google's plan is to give each OEM a 2 year cycle.

I think LG themselves also said they wouldn't be doing the next Nexus phone. I hope it's not LG. I've heard many hardware issues with the Nexus 5.
 

Vegastouch

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Don't think it'd be LG again right? They had it for the past 2 years and it seems like Google's plan is to give each OEM a 2 year cycle.

I think LG themselves also said they wouldn't be doing the next Nexus phone. I hope it's not LG. I've heard many hardware issues with the Nexus 5.

HTC got 1 year. I dont think there is a pattern. Samsungs two werent that great. LG has made two good ones. Id be fine with them again and surely over Sony. The only thing im not big on with HTC is having a metal back. I dont care for them and surely it would get a case and always have it on as it will be much too slippery for me. But again, who makes it, i wont care too much. I was very skeptical of LG and didnt buy the N4 because i wont buy a all glass phone but i really like my N5 so im on board with their stuff now.
 

mattopotamus

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Don't think it'd be LG again right? They had it for the past 2 years and it seems like Google's plan is to give each OEM a 2 year cycle.

I think LG themselves also said they wouldn't be doing the next Nexus phone. I hope it's not LG. I've heard many hardware issues with the Nexus 5.

Sony or Moto is who I want to make it. I do not think there are any "rules" as to who makes it.

I do think you are right about LG, and they came out and said they are not making the next one.
 

Hayakuro

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Personally, the current Nexus 5 is at the upper limits of my comfort range for size. If the N5-2 or N6 or whatever is any larger, then I'll be sticking with my N5 or perhaps trying a comfortably sized "Android Silver" device if those rumors pan out. Bigger battery for longer life would be nice too, but I get through a day on the N5 pretty well. I'm a bit tired of LG's builds, so hopefully HTC or Moto or another high quality OEM can get in on the game. Samsung would be a disappointment.
 

tbayrgs

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Weren't there rumors last autumn after the Moto X was released that Motorola was working on a Nexus device? If I had to bet, I'd guess the next Nexus will be based off the upcoming Moto X+1 (or whatever it's called). I'd like to see a Sony device but considering they have next to zero presence here in the US, don't think it's going to happen.
 

Tig Bitties

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News today that Motorola is the chosen one to make the Nexus 6.

I can't post the link, on my phone, but I read it on Technobuffalo.
 

Oohara

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News today that Motorola is the chosen one to make the Nexus 6.

I can't post the link, on my phone, but I read it on Technobuffalo.

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/07/26/motorola-nexus-6-shamu/

The real kicker, though, is that it’ll feature a 5.9-inch display and fingerprint sensor, though no other details regarding specs have been revealed.

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Please, please be true.

EDIT here's the original rumor post on AP: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/07/26/rumor-motorola-is-working-with-google-on-shamu-a-possible-nexus-phone-with-a-5-9-display/
 
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jamezr

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This part ruined it for me....
The real kicker, though, is that it’ll feature a 5.9-inch display and fingerprint sensor, though no other details regarding specs have been revealed.

That is way too big for a phone....... for me anyways.......
 

Oohara

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This part ruined it for me....


That is way too big for a phone....... for me anyways.......

For me it is the stuff of wet dreams
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Actually it sounds unlikely that they'd go so big though. Unless they're planning two sizes....?
 

Tig Bitties

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Motorola making the Nexus 6, sounds plausible.

5.9" screen, I'd say is extremely doubtful.

I would expect 5.1" like the rumored Moto X 1
 

Farplaner

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Good lord, I can see another year of arguing whether Nexus 6 stands for 6th generation or 6" phone :)
 
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