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Nexus 6 speculation
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By that time everyone knows what android device one's focus will probably be on.
I'm not a fan of all metal bodies either. Hate them actually because for me it means I have to have it in a case at all times because its like carrying around a wet bar of soap.
No matter what size screen the Nexus 6 has this Fall, it doesn't matter what Google names it.
- So the latest rumors of Motorola making it, do you all think that's legit ?
- 5.9" screen size rumor seems way off to me. I can't see the Nexus phone jumping up into phablet territory all of a sudden. To go from 5" on one model, to 5.9" on the next, is a jump I've never seen any phone model make in the course of one year. The typical screen size jump from one model year to the next is like .2" or .3" larger. Like the HTC One M8 went to 5" from 4.7" the year before, or the Note 3 at 5.7" up from 5.5" before.
- My guess is the new Nexus phone having a screen size between 5.1" to 5.3" no larger. I suppose maybe they might jump up to 5.5" to compete directly against the OnePlus One, and show them how to build an affordable smartphone, and sell it
God the 5.3 would still be too big, IMO. Google would be abandoning the sweet spot screen size of 4.5 to 5.0. For this reason, I take exception to the "Agree to Disagree" for naming, because the real argument is "will we see a Nexus six and a next generation Nexus 5?". I'm guessing there could be two Nexus devices as a phone and a phablet.
I'm also guessing this argument will be short lived when the Nexus system goes out the door to Android Silver. Just guessing.
LOL, then you woke up
The 12 hour On Screen part, isn't happening anytime soon. Even the best Android battery phones, like the Note 2, Droid MAXX, One M8, are lucky to push 7h maybe 8h On Screen time, if you do everything you can to tweak it. To get 50% better battery life than the Note 2 or Droid MAXX, you'd need a 4,000mAh battery + keep the screen 1080p, not the newer 1440p res, and run the 801 processor. And they could make a phone with a 4,000mAh if they wanted too, especially Motorola, they were very good at smashing down the size of the large batteries to still fit in an overall thin package. I'd gladly take a phone just a hair thicker, for a 4,000mAh battery.
Seems like we take one step forward, and one step back as far as battery life. We'll get larger batteries like 3,000mAh, and more efficient processors like the 801, but then they put in a 1440p super higher res screen which takes up more power.
This phone has a 5000mAh battery!
http://www.androidauthority.com/review-of-thl-5000-410058/
All the news I have read, is that both the Nexus line and 'Silver' line will coexist. Just like today the Nexus line and GPE line are both around together and separate.
From what I have read the new 'Silver' program is basically the GPE phone line on steroids, with them being made by all the manufacturers; Samsung, HTC, LG, Sony, etc...Based off their high end phone at the time. And being marketed better, and also sold in carrier stores at subsidized prices.
And the Nexus line will still be around too, just like today, an affordable $350 developer phone.
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The Nexus 6 may be coming from the most unexpected source
http://bgr.com/2014/07/28/motorola-nexus-6-shamu-specs/
The rumor this time is simple according to information made available to us, Motorola is working on a device with Google code-named Shamu, the publication writes. The device is supposed to be targeted at major U.S. carriers, and unspecified carriers in other parts of the world, which would probably include the markets that currently have access to Nexus devices, though this detail is still unclear.
The Nexus 6 would pack a 5.9-inch display and a fingerprint sensor, and should launch at some point in November, likely around the Android L release.
While images of the Shamu arent available at this time, it appears the handset has been spotted in Googles issue tracker, which is where the HTC Nexus 9 Volantis has also been seen in the past.
I hope this is the case as well. I don't see why Google can't offer two variation Nexus smartphones just as they do for tablets.
Nexus 5 (2014) smartphone
Nexus 6 phablet by Motorola
Nexus 7 (2014)
Nexus 8 by HTC
Nexus 10 (2014)?
+ GPE / Silver line.
Those would be beautiful choices in the Play Store.
We'll see soon whether or not the carriers figure out how to ruin android silver devices. I know they're not supposed to, but I don't trust them.
The rumored 5.9" screen size, for the Nexus-Six, really scares me. I have owned four of the five Nexus phones, and really like the 4.7"- 5" size best, maybe 5.2" if they slim down the bezels to a minimum, but I have ZERO interest in a 6" smartphone.
Major Nexus news update !!! A Phablet Nexus phone, and Silver maybe not at all
The Information Reports "Shamu" Is Indeed A Motorola-Made Nexus Phablet
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ports-shamu-is-a-motorola-made-nexus-phablet/
We provided some details a few days ago about a device that may very well be a Motorola Nexus phone, with the telling codename "Shamu" (because it's really big). Today The Information says it has independent confirmation from three sources that the device exists and that it is indeed a Nexus phablet. As for Android Silver? Well, that's looking a bit less certain.
The Information Reports "Shamu" Is Indeed A Motorola-Made Nexus Phablet
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ports-shamu-is-a-motorola-made-nexus-phablet/
We provided some details a few days ago about a device that may very well be a Motorola Nexus phone, with the telling codename "Shamu" (because it's really big). Today The Information says it has independent confirmation from three sources that the device exists and that it is indeed a Nexus phablet. As for Android Silver? Well, that's looking a bit less certain.
I think the screen size and overall dimensions doesn't scare me as long as they pack a huge battery in there. LG packing a 2300 mAh on the Nexus 5 was a joke. I would rather carry a larger phone with nearly twice the battery life than carry a smaller phone where I have to charge it twice per day. Once you own an Android device that can give you long battery life, it is very hard to go back to something inferior. 3200-3500 mAh should be bare minimum on this thing. But the Nexus devices only appeals to the countries Google Play Store caters to. Google still hasn't made Nexus devices available to other continents for that same price they ask for from the Play Store.
Xiaomi Mi line and OnePlus line look to be the Nexus-killers. More affordable. Longer battery life. Better cameras. More interesting customization and optimization with MIUI or CM. Those are the two areas Google and whichever OEM need to work on. Camera and battery life. Specs are specs. Most other flagships will get similar specs by CES after two months. Being it could be Motorola, I expect good build quality and battery life. But I'm still iffy with that camera as Nokia, Apple, Sony, Samsung, and LG's G line are still far superior and Moto X didn't exactly blew people's minds with their image quality and dead, bland color reproduction. Motorola and HTC belong in a lower tier when it comes to camera quality.
Xiaomi Mi line and OnePlus line look to be the Nexus-killers. More affordable. Longer battery life. Better cameras. More interesting customization and optimization with MIUI or CM. Those are the two areas Google and whichever OEM need to work on. Camera and battery life. Specs are specs. Most other flagships will get similar specs by CES after two months. Being it could be Motorola, I expect good build quality and battery life. But I'm still iffy with that camera as Nokia, Apple, Sony, Samsung, and LG's G line are still far superior and Moto X didn't exactly blew people's minds with their image quality and dead, bland color reproduction. Motorola and HTC belong in a lower tier when it comes to camera quality.
LOL, then you woke up
The 12 hour On Screen part, isn't happening anytime soon. Even the best Android battery phones, like the Note 2, Droid MAXX, One M8, are lucky to push 7h maybe 8h On Screen time, if you do everything you can to tweak it. To get 50% better battery life than the Note 2 or Droid MAXX, you'd need a 4,000mAh battery + keep the screen 1080p, not the newer 1440p res, and run the 801 processor. And they could make a phone with a 4,000mAh if they wanted too, especially Motorola, they were very good at smashing down the size of the large batteries to still fit in an overall thin package. I'd gladly take a phone just a hair thicker, for a 4,000mAh battery.
Seems like we take one step forward, and one step back as far as battery life. We'll get larger batteries like 3,000mAh, and more efficient processors like the 801, but then they put in a 1440p super higher res screen which takes up more power.
hmmm, I'm not keen on a phablet. I don't think I would want anything larger than a 5" phone. I'll wait and see what comes out in the next few months.
I was checking out the Sony Xperia Z2 today and comparing it with my Mi 3. Both were generally the same size with the Z2 being a tad taller by a few millimeters. But the Z2 has a 5.2 inch screen while the M3 only has 5 inches. Both have too much bezel on the top and bottom. I think 5.5 inches is quite possible on reasonable dimensions seeing the LG G3 and OnePlus One are not that much bigger in dimensions vs the Mi 3 and Z2. It depends on the bezels or lack of it before we start worrying about it and saying too big.
If you are coming from an iPhone 5/5s, I can understand having a hard time adjusting. But coming from an M7 to Mi 3 was an easy transition for me seeing that the height and width were expanded by less than 10mm. Bigger concerns shouldn't be about the Nexus 6 size. It is about usability and real world performance. Nexi devices have never been great at camera and battery life. This is why I feel the smaller iPhone 6 is getting jipped with a weaker cam, lack of sapphire crystal screen, and likely a smaller batt capacity.
Most people where I live carry phablets all the time. I think 5.2-5.5 inches is starting to be the sweet spot. One reason is the larger battery capacity where phablets are reaching tablet territory when it comes to battery longevity. There are tradeoffs. Smaller size, you get weaker specs. Larger size, you "usually" get better specs. Only the Z1 Compact was a rare exception but it also has a giant price tag.
If you are coming from an iPhone 5/5s, I can understand having a hard time adjusting. But coming from an M7 to Mi 3 was an easy transition for me seeing that the height and width were expanded by less than 10mm. Bigger concerns shouldn't be about the Nexus 6 size. It is about usability and real world performance. Nexi devices have never been great at camera and battery life. This is why I feel the smaller iPhone 6 is getting jipped with a weaker cam, lack of sapphire crystal screen, and likely a smaller batt capacity.
Most people where I live carry phablets all the time. I think 5.2-5.5 inches is starting to be the sweet spot. One reason is the larger battery capacity where phablets are reaching tablet territory when it comes to battery longevity. There are tradeoffs. Smaller size, you get weaker specs. Larger size, you "usually" get better specs. Only the Z1 Compact was a rare exception but it also has a giant price tag.
That's not real On Screen time. Trust me, I have had 13 different Android phones the past four years, and I read XDA and all the tech sites daily. NOT one phone can get over 9h On Screen time yet. A phone like that does not exist yet.
That is not Screen On Time (SOT). The best phone I have had for SOT is the One+One it can get an easy 6 hours of SOT. But I don't know of a mass produced phone that will get you 12 hours SOT without having some kind of HUGE non OEM battery. Then you might be able to get 12 SOT but it will be a hideous phone to look at and heavy to hold.
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So it's web browsing with the screen off?
no...but that is just a for testing.....you can have the screen set so low you can't read it but have it testing web browsing in a page after page loop too with a program. Have you ever read the reviewers and how they test those things? Have you ever noticed how they differentiate those tests? I think you should read up on it. Everyone knows these are totally different things.
Size concerns? Well the 5.5 LG3 is probably the nicest device I have ever handled as far as form factor for a larger sized smartphone.
I can read the screen perfectly fine at 50% brightness, i think your statement that the tests are not fair makes no sense.
The average SOT I get on my M8 is no the same as what a professional reviewer would get in a test. They are not the same. The reason why is I am using multiple apps and have email and texts coming in plus my phone is searching for a cell connection and connecting to different towers and Wi-Fi all day long as I travel from home to work to home again to the gym to the grocery store to home again. All the time I am making receiving calls and texts, emails....checking social media. Do you see the difference between a script running a browser test and actual real world SOT usage? While the battery might last 12 hours running a script....real world use is different.
So when talking about getting 4-6 SOT and being happy with that......we mean real world use not some script running a test to produce fake numbers.
What they test a phone in under specific settings, is radically different than real every day use.
Trust me, NO phone gets 12h On Screen time, NOT one stock phone by anyone; Apple, Microsoft, Android, get's anywhere close to that. Maybe the Galaxy Note 2 could get 7h to 8h, or the Motorola Droid MAXX the same, but nothing beyond that NO WAY. 100% no.
Now a phone with an extended battery like a 9,000mAh sized battery stuck into a Galaxy Note phone could do that, but then the phone becomes the size and weight of a brick.
The best battery life phones are typically;
- Note 2 = 7.5h On Screen time
- Droid Ultra MAXX = 7h On Screen time
- Note 3 = 6.5h On Screen time
- OnePlus One = 6h On Screen time
- HTC One M8 = 6h On Screen time
- Galaxy S5 = 5.5h On Screen time
Considering how disappointed I was with the Nexus 5 last year (had it for two weeks and it had terrible battery life, weak camera, microphone issues, super weak vibration, etc) I'm not even gonna wait for the Nexus 6.
All I can hope for is that Google learnt from the Nexus 5 mistakes.
At least it's not gonna be LG again... I hope... My last two phones have been LG (Nexus 5 and G2) and both had several issues.
All I can hope for is that Google learnt from the Nexus 5 mistakes.
At least it's not gonna be LG again... I hope... My last two phones have been LG (Nexus 5 and G2) and both had several issues.