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AustinIllini

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I tested the iPhone 6s+ for 24hrs and IMO, it's just another iPhone with 2GB of RAM; which isn't a bad thing.

The 3D force touch is a nice implementation but it falls short, I feel. Maybe after a year--or with iPhone 7--when more developers implement it, it'll really be worth considering.

Live photos is also cool but just doesn't feel like it's there yet.

Anyways, back to the Nexus.
Just ordered a nexus as well. I lapse every year or so. This time it's google services that's driving me back to the Nexus.
 

Seiga

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Yes ' JoD ' which I pay for, so no reason to spend $500 separately when already with Jump on Demand. Of course I can just order it right now through Google Play and pay for it immediately, but then I'm blowing it with being on the JoD program.

You might want to reconsider JoD if you really look at the cost over time concept. I thought it was awesome at first, but it adds up over time and thus becomes useless.

Also, you can't compare the iPhone to the Nexus when it comes to flagship devices. Apple has a 44% market share on just their devices. Google's OS is on multiple devices and encompasses about 54% of the market. The Nexus program is just a small percent of the 54% while Samsung takes over the bulk of that. Carriers aren't going to jump over hoops to get a Nexus on their network. Nor does Google ever care about commercially advertising a Nexus Device.

Finally, the Nexus program has and will always be a developer program first. It was designed to be the envisioning of what Google thought an Android phone should be. At the same time, it gives developers the ability to unlock and work on the phone's device settings as well as kernel levels. Google gave the option to the carriers to either void or not void the warranty when it comes to unlocking the device.
 

Robisan

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Jumping in late and haven't read this whole thread so apologies if this has been mentioned before, but those interested in a hands-on of the 6P just for size can look at the 6S Plus. They are virtually identical except the 6P will be a 1/2oz lighter. (Source. See them side-by-side or overlap.)

Google Nexus 6P
6.27 x 3.06 x 0.29 inches
159.3 x 77.8 x 7.3 mm
6.28 oz (178 g)

Apple iPhone 6s Plus
6.23 x 3.07 x 0.29 inches
158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm
6.77 oz (192 g)
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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Jumping in late and haven't read this whole thread so apologies if this has been mentioned before, but those interested in a hands-on of the 6P just for size can look at the 6S Plus. They are virtually identical except the 6P will be a 1/2oz lighter. (Source. See them side-by-side or overlap.)

Google Nexus 6P
6.27 x 3.06 x 0.29 inches
159.3 x 77.8 x 7.3 mm
6.28 oz (178 g)

Apple iPhone 6s Plus
6.23 x 3.07 x 0.29 inches
158.2 x 77.9 x 7.3 mm
6.77 oz (192 g)

I didn't' realize the P had huge dinosaur bezels like the iPhone.
 

Surf Donkey

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I didn't' realize the P had huge dinosaur bezels like the iPhone.

Well it is a bigger screen in the 6p compared to the 6S+. So the bezels aren't quite a big. But also not as small as the Note 5. But the 6p is rocking the front facing stereo speakers too.
 

spinedoc77

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Well it is a bigger screen in the 6p compared to the 6S+. So the bezels aren't quite a big. But also not as small as the Note 5. But the 6p is rocking the front facing stereo speakers too.

I just can't help but think how much nicer it would have been if it was shorter instead of having the huge bezels. I do think the positives outweigh the Note 5 by far though and I'm pretty sure I'm going to order one of these bad boys.
 

Surf Donkey

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I just can't help but think how much nicer it would have been if it was shorter instead of having the huge bezels. I do think the positives outweigh the Note 5 by far though and I'm pretty sure I'm going to order one of these bad boys.

The am guessing the added height is for that big ass battery as well. But comparing with the note 5 the bezel difference is about 4mm on the top and 4mm bottom. So not much, but definitely noticeable.
 

nj-morris

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Well it is a bigger screen in the 6p compared to the 6S+. So the bezels aren't quite a big. But also not as small as the Note 5. But the 6p is rocking the front facing stereo speakers too.

The 6P has just about the biggest bezels out there next to the iPhone. It even has the same height as the Nexus 6, and it's 0.3 inches smaller. Companies should really stop comparing their phones to iPhones, it just doesn't work. Just focus on competing with other Android phones.
 
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AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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The 6P has just about the biggest bezels out there next to the iPhone. It even has the same height as the Nexus 6, and it's 0.3 inches smaller. Companies should really stop comparing their phones to iPhones, it just doesn't work. Just focus on competing with other Android phones.
Why? It's super easy to compare an iPhone 6S+ to a Nexus 6P and it's reasonably close when you compare the unlocked prices of the phone.
 

epicrayban

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Frost variation out of stock, both 64gb and 128gb. I was really considering it...

15 days to test the device. Google will pay for return shipping. No restocking fees of any kind.

But alas, the color I want is sold out...
 

Surf Donkey

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The 6P has just about the biggest bezels out there next to the iPhone. It even has the same height as the Nexus 6, and it's 0.3 inches smaller. Companies should really stop comparing their phones to iPhones, it just doesn't work. Just focus on competing with other Android phones.

Well compared to the Nexus 6 then it is the same height but thinner. I'll take some extra height of bezels over width. It was the width of the Nexus 6 that made it just a bit uncomfortable to me. We'll see if that 5mm makes a difference.
 

spinedoc77

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Anyone know if the Nexus P supports AT&T wifi calling? It just got turned on for my iPhone 6s+ and I love it.
 

nj-morris

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Why? It's super easy to compare an iPhone 6S+ to a Nexus 6P and it's reasonably close when you compare the unlocked prices of the phone.

Because iPhones and Android phones appeal to completely different markets. The reason why iPhones appeal to so many people is because of the consumer-friendly OS. If Google think that those people are going to switch because of a .2-inch bigger screen, even if it's in the same screen area, they need to think again. It's the same sort of thing with Samsung, making all these ads and tweets about everything that the iPhone doesn't have. Now when you're comparing 2 Android phones, it's a different story, because they're running similar software, so things like Wireless charging, mobile payments and dimensions mean more.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
12,699
10,567
Austin, TX
Because iPhones and Android phones appeal to completely different markets. The reason why iPhones appeal to so many people is because of the consumer-friendly OS. If Google think that those people are going to switch because of a .2-inch bigger screen, even if it's in the same screen area, they need to think again. It's the same sort of thing with Samsung, making all these ads and tweets about everything that the iPhone doesn't have. Now when you're comparing 2 Android phones, it's a different story, because they're running similar software, so things like Wireless charging, mobile payments and dimensions mean more.
What? No they don't. They all appeal to the same general public.

The only reason the Nexus system isn't bigger than it already is has something to do with either the fact that Samsung, LG, et al are good at marketing their product or that Google isn't interested in stepping on their toes.

Android and iPhones both target the same masses and they directly compete.
 

Surf Donkey

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Anyone know if the Nexus P supports AT&T wifi calling? It just got turned on for my iPhone 6s+ and I love it.

My understanding is wifi calling is iPhone only on AT&T right now. If you want wifi calling on the 6P, Google Fi is the way to go.
 

spinedoc77

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Interesting, I hadn't heard of this before. So $20/month for text/talk and $10 per GB data. You switch between wifi hotspots and Google partner 4g. It's showing my area is well represented. Very interesting.

They say you can access 2 4g networks, in the US does that mean they use Tmobile and ATT?
 

Surf Donkey

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Hmm, I'll have to research that. It works the same way as ATT wifi calling works?

Not really. The whole point of it is to keep you off networks and on wifi as much as possible. L

Interesting, I hadn't heard of this before. So $20/month for text/talk and $10 per GB data. You switch between wifi hotspots and Google partner 4g. It's showing my area is well represented. Very interesting.

They say you can access 2 4g networks, in the US does that mean they use Tmobile and ATT?

Tmo and Sprint
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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A brief refresher: Project Fi is Google’s attempt to provide the be-all-end-all for your smartphone needs. It’s a mobile virtual network operator, or MVNO, that switches between T-Mobile, Sprint, and Wi-Fi intelligently so that you have the best service between the three

Bleh, Tmobile and Sprint, I wonder if that's why it's so cheap. I've had issues with both of them.
 
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