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I'm actually having a lot of second thoughts.

It sounds like the s6 screen and camera experience (quality, the app itself, and the camera features) all sound better on the s6. I love the s6 screen (including brightness adjuster - it can drop really low when using it in the dark and it can get really bright when using it in sunlight).

Does the 6p compare? It seems like it is just under the s6 in these two departments. The camera is especially important to me.

But also... I hate losing wireless charging. I love the convenience and the fact that I can top off my battery while the device is on my table (at home and at work). As mentioned before, I love that USB c is future proof but I'm not ready to go there yet personally. I don't wanna spend money on new cables for the office, the car, etc. Plus, it'll mean my wireless chargers are now useless. That doesn't make me happy.

Also, form factor. The 6p is gonna be huge to me coming from a s6. I've seen comparison videos. I don't know if I can handle it. It'll essentially eliminate one handed use which really sucks. I use my s6 one handed on the train often (need the other hand to hold onto the hand bars, or a work bag, etc). Also, I use it laying down at night in bed often (or in the mornings) and the s6 already can be hard to hold upside down. The 6p would be ridiculous.

Lastly, I'm just not that impressed with stock android. I'll miss the immediate access to quick toggles from touch wiz and the ability to customize it. There are a few other things that i like on touchwi tok. Obviously there are advantages to stock, but I don't know if it's enough to make up for the things I'd be losing overall. I don't need immediate updates and often early updates can also mean early bugs. Devices these days work phenomenally well that waiting for software updates just aren't that meaningful. Plus Google apps update all year round independently. A clean and lean OS is always great, but my s6 isn't plagued that badly with the ram management issue. I don't cycle through apps like that - I usually have two or three main ones. Anything more, I can wait for that extra millisecond of refresh it does. Just isn't a big deal to me. Shrug.

Plus, because I got the 128gb, I am dropping $700+ for this device. That's a heavy price even if it is a great value. Not happy about spending that sorta money...

I'm considering canceling... But because Google's return policy is so friendly, I'm hanging on to the order. But having serious second thoughts. I might have just gotten impulsive and caught up with the hype.

Thoughts from fellow phone lovers? Especially those with the s6?

=T
Screen and camera will be better than the Nexus for sure. What you get from a Nexus is a consistently smooth and reliable experience and timely updates for features that I have found to be actually useful.

I find stock to be intuitive with a ui design that doesn't grow tiresome with time. Something I have learned from my a/v hobby is that if anything immediately stands out to you from a design or appeal perspective that is the first thing you grow to haste, kind of like a loud speaker that's sounds nice and sharp at first listen gets fatiguing and overwhelming over time. If you go with a speaker that is more balanced, as time goes on, you start to appreciate and hear things you've never heard before from tracks you're familiar with. I find stock Android to be the same, nothing really does at first impression but overtime you start to appreciate how intuitive everything is.

As far as toggles, stock Android wins here as you can customize them however you like using an app so you even have web link or app shortcuts.
 

nfl46

macrumors G3
Oct 5, 2008
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Here's my final SOT after one day. Not bad, and I was using the device all day on WiFi, and briefly on LTE. If I'm getting 6 hours SOT on stock kernel, I could only imagine what it will be on a custom one.

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MRU

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Screen and camera will be better than the Nexus for sure. What you get from a Nexus is a consistently smooth and reliable experience and timely updates for features that I have found to be actually useful.

I find stock to be intuitive with a ui design that doesn't grow tiresome with time. Something I have learned from my a/v hobby is that if anything immediately stands out to you from a design or appeal perspective that is the first thing you grow to haste, kind of like a loud speaker that's sounds nice and sharp at first listen gets fatiguing and overwhelming over time. If you go with a speaker that is more balanced, as time goes on, you start to appreciate and hear things you've never heard before from tracks you're familiar with. I find stock Android to be the same, nothing really does at first impression but overtime you start to appreciate how intuitive everything is.

As far as toggles, stock Android wins here as you can customize them however you like using an app so you even have web link or app shortcuts.
Yep exactly.

Essentially it's only after trying so many other OS's and their plusses and minuses that I appreciate how efficient stock android is. It's an android OS that I don't have to micromanage unlike touchwiz. It's lacking in bells and whistles but does all the essentials without hesitation.

You have freedom to add to stock android replacement defaults to your own preference without still being saddled with redundant heavy ram hungry OS features from an OEM.

The fact my average memory use without thinking of closing apps and micromanaging background tasks is 1.4gb, which is 800mb less than my Edge + in just system mem usage alone.

In an ideal world I would love an S6 Edge + running stock android. So yeah there are still trade offs.


My negatives ...

Despite being a Samsung Panel the display isn't as bright as any of Samsung's own flagships. Out of the box its colour calibration is way off base and even after corrected its not quite as accurate as either the iPhone 6S plus, Moto X Style (with normal made enabled) or the Note 5 / Edge / S6 with (basic mode enabled).

But its still leagues better than the Nexus 6 and is a great panel generally. But if you are in a position to compare it to those others the difference is noticeable. I had difficulty just now trying to take photos simply because I could barely see the screen in the low winter sunshine.

Battery life has been good and up there with the rest of them, but maybe not as good as the iPhone 6S + which still seems to retain the champion trophy.

Camera has been a bit so so even for me so far tbh. Now I've not had best weather to take shots but so far the results are underwhelming me. It's not bad - its just maybe not quite as good as those others I have.

Headphone jack is a pain in the arse. Of the 5 headphones in the house it refuses to work with my sennheiser studio ones or my xiaomi Piston 3 earphones. All my other devices have no issue with any of the headphones.

Screen is a veritable fingerprint magnet and needs a tempered screen protector with a good oleophobic coating.


My positives

Stereo speakers are clear and crisp

Phone calls are likewise

Cellular reception is good even in crappy coverage areas.

It feels and looks like the best Nexus device ever

Stock android performance and reliability just wins out over bells and whistles. I still get peeved off that simple things like lockscreen and homescreen wallpapers can't be changed independently. But generally the level of performance and the fact I just use my phone / device without trying to tweak it constantly for best performance is one of the things I admire the most in iOS and likewise Stock Android.

Heat wise the phone is cooler even with fast charging than any of the other android flagships this year. Including the exynos ones.

Not thinking about when I'm getting the next android update. Knowing I'll get it as soon as its available. So much wasted time googling and obsessing over getting an update on other android devices, that frustration is taken away and I appreciate that.

Fingerprint reader has been excellent. Though double tap to launch camera is silly in that if you do it from an unlocked phone it still puts it into stabdby/lock so you have to unlock after taking the photo. That can be fixed by software.


Another not quite perfect device and joins the ranks of the rest of them this year. I remain in search of the elusive perfect one.

But I will keep hold of the Nexus 6P simply because I do appreciate the just use it comfort it gives compared to obsessing about performance and tweaking every other android device gives me (excluding maybe Moto).

It's a device you'll like or say meh! to based on your own preferences. What you want out of a device and on a scale which you govern higher priorities.
 

MRU

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Aug 23, 2005
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Great feedback guys.

Still very much on the fence but at least I know what to expect now.
Yeah basically temper and have realistic expectations. We all get caught up in the hype and the glowing reviews, but it's always wise to take them all with a grain of salt and try for yourself if you can. Sometimes that's not possible I know.
 

unclejamaal

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Feb 22, 2010
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Yep exactly.

Essentially it's only after trying so many other OS's and their plusses and minuses that I appreciate how efficient stock android is. It's an android OS that I don't have to micromanage unlike touchwiz. It's lacking in bells and whistles but does all the essentials without hesitation.

You have freedom to add to stock android replacement defaults to your own preference without still being saddled with redundant heavy ram hungry OS features from an OEM.

The fact my average memory use without thinking of closing apps and micromanaging background tasks is 1.4gb, which is 800mb less than my Edge + in just system mem usage alone.

In an ideal world I would love an S6 Edge + running stock android. So yeah there are still trade offs.


My negatives ...

Despite being a Samsung Panel the display isn't as bright as any of Samsung's own flagships. Out of the box its colour calibration is way off base and even after corrected its not quite as accurate as either the iPhone 6S plus, Moto X Style (with normal made enabled) or the Note 5 / Edge / S6 with (basic mode enabled).

But its still leagues better than the Nexus 6 and is a great panel generally. But if you are in a position to compare it to those others the difference is noticeable. I had difficulty just now trying to take photos simply because I could barely see the screen in the low winter sunshine.

Battery life has been good and up there with the rest of them, but maybe not as good as the iPhone 6S + which still seems to retain the champion trophy.

Camera has been a bit so so even for me so far tbh. Now I've not had best weather to take shots but so far the results are underwhelming me. It's not bad - its just maybe not quite as good as those others I have.

Headphone jack is a pain in the arse. Of the 5 headphones in the house it refuses to work with my sennheiser studio ones or my xiaomi Piston 3 earphones. All my other devices have no issue with any of the headphones.

Screen is a veritable fingerprint magnet and needs a tempered screen protector with a good oleophobic coating.


My positives

Stereo speakers are clear and crisp

Phone calls are likewise

Cellular reception is good even in crappy coverage areas.

It feels and looks like the best Nexus device ever

Stock android performance and reliability just wins out over bells and whistles. I still get peeved off that simple things like lockscreen and homescreen wallpapers can't be changed independently. But generally the level of performance and the fact I just use my phone / device without trying to tweak it constantly for best performance is one of the things I admire the most in iOS and likewise Stock Android.

Heat wise the phone is cooler even with fast charging than any of the other android flagships this year. Including the exynos ones.

Not thinking about when I'm getting the next android update. Knowing I'll get it as soon as its available. So much wasted time googling and obsessing over getting an update on other android devices, that frustration is taken away and I appreciate that.

Fingerprint reader has been excellent. Though double tap to launch camera is silly in that if you do it from an unlocked phone it still puts it into stabdby/lock so you have to unlock after taking the photo. That can be fixed by software.


Another not quite perfect device and joins the ranks of the rest of them this year. I remain in search of the elusive perfect one.

But I will keep hold of the Nexus 6P simply because I do appreciate the just use it comfort it gives compared to obsessing about performance and tweaking every other android device gives me (excluding maybe Moto).

It's a device you'll like or say meh! to based on your own preferences. What you want out of a device and on a scale which you govern higher priorities.


a very fair review. maybe with the right jailbreak bells and whistles I'll keep my 6s Plus :) All depends on whether I can get a good deal on the 6P :)
 

Blaze4G

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Yep exactly.

Essentially it's only after trying so many other OS's and their plusses and minuses that I appreciate how efficient stock android is. It's an android OS that I don't have to micromanage unlike touchwiz. It's lacking in bells and whistles but does all the essentials without hesitation.

You have freedom to add to stock android replacement defaults to your own preference without still being saddled with redundant heavy ram hungry OS features from an OEM.

The fact my average memory use without thinking of closing apps and micromanaging background tasks is 1.4gb, which is 800mb less than my Edge + in just system mem usage alone.

In an ideal world I would love an S6 Edge + running stock android. So yeah there are still trade offs.


My negatives ...

Despite being a Samsung Panel the display isn't as bright as any of Samsung's own flagships. Out of the box its colour calibration is way off base and even after corrected its not quite as accurate as either the iPhone 6S plus, Moto X Style (with normal made enabled) or the Note 5 / Edge / S6 with (basic mode enabled).

But its still leagues better than the Nexus 6 and is a great panel generally. But if you are in a position to compare it to those others the difference is noticeable. I had difficulty just now trying to take photos simply because I could barely see the screen in the low winter sunshine.

Battery life has been good and up there with the rest of them, but maybe not as good as the iPhone 6S + which still seems to retain the champion trophy.

Camera has been a bit so so even for me so far tbh. Now I've not had best weather to take shots but so far the results are underwhelming me. It's not bad - its just maybe not quite as good as those others I have.

Headphone jack is a pain in the arse. Of the 5 headphones in the house it refuses to work with my sennheiser studio ones or my xiaomi Piston 3 earphones. All my other devices have no issue with any of the headphones.

Screen is a veritable fingerprint magnet and needs a tempered screen protector with a good oleophobic coating.


My positives

Stereo speakers are clear and crisp

Phone calls are likewise

Cellular reception is good even in crappy coverage areas.

It feels and looks like the best Nexus device ever

Stock android performance and reliability just wins out over bells and whistles. I still get peeved off that simple things like lockscreen and homescreen wallpapers can't be changed independently. But generally the level of performance and the fact I just use my phone / device without trying to tweak it constantly for best performance is one of the things I admire the most in iOS and likewise Stock Android.

Heat wise the phone is cooler even with fast charging than any of the other android flagships this year. Including the exynos ones.

Not thinking about when I'm getting the next android update. Knowing I'll get it as soon as its available. So much wasted time googling and obsessing over getting an update on other android devices, that frustration is taken away and I appreciate that.

Fingerprint reader has been excellent. Though double tap to launch camera is silly in that if you do it from an unlocked phone it still puts it into stabdby/lock so you have to unlock after taking the photo. That can be fixed by software.


Another not quite perfect device and joins the ranks of the rest of them this year. I remain in search of the elusive perfect one.

But I will keep hold of the Nexus 6P simply because I do appreciate the just use it comfort it gives compared to obsessing about performance and tweaking every other android device gives me (excluding maybe Moto).

It's a device you'll like or say meh! to based on your own preferences. What you want out of a device and on a scale which you govern higher priorities.

Been a long time browser on this forum and decided to make a profile. Some of the issues you have has "work arounds" which might improve your experience.

1. Turn off adaptive brightness...this makes the screen get much brighter than with it on.

2. For the double tap for camera which locks the phone... go to settings > security > change instantly lock after power button is pressed to 5 seconds. Thus when you double tap power button now it does not lock the phone.
 

MRU

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Been a long time browser on this forum and decided to make a profile. Some of the issues you have has "work arounds" which might improve your experience.

1. Turn off adaptive brightness...this makes the screen get much brighter than with it on.

2. For the double tap for camera which locks the phone... go to settings > security > change instantly lock after power button is pressed to 5 seconds. Thus when you double tap power button now it does not lock the phone.

Thanks :)

I have read for outdoor brightness 'adaptive brightness' is a better option as it allows brightness level to increase higher than the slider would allow manually.

Thanks for the lock screen tip. I have implemented that now.

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Blaze4G

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Thanks :)

I have read for outdoor brightness 'adaptive brightness' is a better option as it allows brightness level to increase higher than the slider would allow manually.

Thanks for the lock screen tip. I have implemented that now.

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you're welcome. I know for the Samsung Galaxy that is how their adaptive brightness works. However based on what I've heard (and experience with nexus 5) it does not get as bright with it on. You can do your own test though.

I got my 6p yesterday, my speakers seem to be slightly unbalanced (top is louder). Still sounds great and better than anything I've owned. Was considering to RMA it however I already placed my tempered glass on it haha.I am hoping it is a software issue since many persons seem to be having this issue over on xda and reddit. Now I am wondering if I should have even told you. I felt that if I never read up on issue I wouldn't have noticed. But now it is in the back of my mind lol.
 
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MRU

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you're welcome. I know for the Samsung Galaxy that is how their adaptive brightness works. However based on what I've heard (and experience with nexus 5) it does not get as bright with it on. You can do your own test though.

I got my 6p yesterday, my speakers seem to be slightly unbalanced (top is louder). Still sounds great and better than anything I've owned. Was considering to RMA it however I already placed my tempered glass on it haha.I am hoping it is a software issue since many persons seem to be having this issue over on xda and reddit. Now I am wondering if I should have even told you. I felt that if I never read up on issue I wouldn't have noticed. But now it is in the back of my mind lol.

Lol. Yeah I just tested with a piece of classical, and some folk and some pop. All three seem balanced with equal volume(left/right - top/bottom) on mine thank goodness :)

Which tempered screen protector did you get and how do you find it ? :) Normally I buy Spigen Glas.tr but its out of stock on Amazon at moment for me.
 

Blaze4G

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Lol. Yeah I just tested with a piece of classical, and some folk and some pop. All three seem balanced with equal volume(left/right - top/bottom) on mine thank goodness :)

Which tempered screen protector did you get and how do you find it ? :) Normally I buy Spigen Glas.tr but its out of stock on Amazon at moment for me.

oh good for you! >.> haha

I got the skinomi tempered glass directly from their website. They state Nov 30 shipping on it or something of the sort. However it ships the day after you order it. I got it for around $10 however I used this coupon code skinomi25 (not sure if it is still active).

Any screen protector you go with, ensure it has the proximately sensor cut out. The Skinomi is the only one I've heard that has the cut out and is shipping quickly.

I've never used TGSP before so can't compare but it seems to be really clear and of high quality to me.
 
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jamezr

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The battery life has been pretty good so far on my first full day if use. I should get 6 hours SOT easily. The fingerprint scanner in the bad is taking quite a bit of getting used to tbh

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spriter

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I'm actually having a lot of second thoughts.

...

Thoughts from fellow phone lovers? Especially those with the s6?

After having a play with one today I cancelled my order. It's all round nice but just too big and cumbersome for my liking - I know I'd be frustrated at having to two-hand it all the time. I tried with the Note5 and 6s Plus but couldn't get used to them.

Sticking to the standard 6s and ended up picking up a cheap Nexus 5 to sample stock Marshmallow instead. 70mm and less is my width limit these days.
 
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MRU

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After having a play with one today I cancelled my order. It's all round nice but just too big and cumbersome for my liking - I know I'd be frustrated at having to two-hand it all the time. I tried with the Note5 and 6s Plus but couldn't get used to them.

Sticking to the standard 6s and ended up picking up a cheap Nexus 5 to sample stock Marshmallow instead. 70mm and less is my width limit these days.
Yep at the ends of the day if any other phablets are too big for you, then the 6P had same issue as its three same size as the others pretty much.

At least you got to try it first :)
 

cuzo

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mru,

wrong thread to ask but will you test out the a9? just asking.

as for nexus the 6p is too big for me, 5x is more my speed but don't see a reason to sell my m9 over it. even with a superior camera and 20 grams lighter I don't consider it a upgrade to day the least.

do like the fingerprint scanner though.
 

MRU

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mru,

wrong thread to ask but will you test out the a9? just asking.

as for nexus the 6p is too big for me, 5x is more my speed but don't see a reason to sell my m9 over it. even with a superior camera and 20 grams lighter I don't consider it a upgrade to day the least.

do like the fingerprint scanner though.

The A9 is ridiculously expensive here at €640 compared to $399 so it's unlikely I'll get the chance to tbh.
 

apeaceofstrange

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I just ordered a 128 gb frost white version. I remember I originally switched from android because I felt every phone had some major compromise and iOS was more polished and compatible. Hopefully after a week or 2 of using it I'll know which I prefer now.
 
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nj-morris

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The A9 is ridiculously expensive here at €640 compared to $399 so it's unlikely I'll get the chance to tbh.

That's ridiculous. Despite the Euro being more than the dollar, it's still that lot more in euros. Damn, that's 77% more expensive!
 

Roadstar

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Looking good :) Pretty much the only reason I haven't ordered one yet is that I want to check if I can get a usable work phone now that I'm due for an upgrade. Back when I got my current work phone (a Lumia 925) our choices were limited to Windows Phones and with the app situation being what it is and some core functionality just not working properly (flaky Bluetooth was what ultimately killed it for me), that thing ended up gathering dust in a drawer. Some time ago when iPhone 6 was the latest model we got also iPhones into the selection, but price limits were such that the 16GB base model 4,7" was the only option. Now that the 6s prices have once again skyrocketed here, there could be some changes coming, so I'm hoping for a possibility to get an Android and more preferably a Nexus. I'm actually wanting to try a phablet this time, but a 6s plus with decent storage is prohibitively expensive.

Should the work phone option fail, I'll get myself the 6P as getting a 64GB 6s plus is almost 1000€ here.
 

mel823

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MRU,

Can you, please, compare the 6P with your Moto X Style, since for some odd reason none of the Android sites want to compare the 6P and MXPE.
 

Blaze4G

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MRU,

Can you, please, compare the 6P with your Moto X Style, since for some odd reason none of the Android sites want to compare the 6P and MXPE.

I've had experience with both and to be honest the only big advantage in my opinion is micro SD slot.

Moto x style other advantages:
Noticeably better speakers (in no way are the 6p speakers bad, they are still great).
Ambient display works much better
customization with moto maker

6p advantages:
Faster processor
Faster ram
Better screen quality (viewing angles) moto x style has a great screen though
Quicker updates
Better build quality
Finger print reader
Better camera both front and rear
Better battery life
 
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