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MRU

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I was refering to the size of the program but maybe that is a little off, im not sure. As for voice assistant, i use it all the time and prefer it to typing it in. Sometimes i text by voice but most of the time it is by keyboard. Everything else is pretty much done by voice. Half the time i type an address in maps.

I guess were all different. Of the two I do use Google Now / Moto Assist voice features more over Siri (actually pretty much never use Siri - it was turned off for months and i never even realised) , mostly because it's handy with Google Music. "Play me some (genre) music" and such is what I use most.

I don't really use either for messaging due to the fact when I've done it - it often gets some part wrong recognition wise, especially with Irish words / names where it will often insert the weirdest mess. :)

"Text Saoirse - ready at six" = "Web search for Text shorter ready at sex" and such :D as for the likes of Aibhlinn, Aoibheann, Caoimhe, Maebh, Muirne and more it's just too much of a struggle.
 
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Roadstar

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I am keeping the iPhone 6s Plus because ...

The ios keyboard is a godsend. I rarely ever make mistakes on it and auto correct is much more accurate than any keyboard I've used on android.

Screen is better on iPhone and the colours feel natural.

Hardware silent control.

Keyboard and screen are good indeed, but to me the hardware silent control is both a blessing and a curse. It's really easy to toggle and see the status if you just actively rotate the phone to observe the switch (and don't use a case that obscures it). However, the silent status isn't indicated in any manner in the status bar, so if I could get 1€ for each time I've accidentally forgotten my iPhone on silent as I haven't just noticed it's on silent, the sum would buy me an Apple Watch and a nice set of straps.

Sure android is a lot more open but the iPhone with jaikbreaking can be similar in terms of customisation.

Yep, jailbreaking can bring a lot more customizability to iPhones, but at least for me it's not a good choice as it falls into the same category as a rooted Android, i.e. it's not going anywhere near our company Exchange, thus making it less usable as a tool. Android allows quite a lot of nice stuff without having to root it.

Now don't get me wrong. I'm not criticizing your decision in any manner, I just wanted to provide an alternate viewpoint on couple of the reasons. If the 6s Plus works better for you (and it's not actually hard to imagine with it being a great phone), then you should definitely stick to it :)
 
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unclejamaal

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The 6s works better for me for the moment for the reasons I mentioned :)

If I was to somehow find the nexus on a good deal in a couple of months or so I would definitely consider it
 
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AustinIllini

macrumors G5
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There is nothing less sensible than jailbreaking an iPhone. Android is customizable out of the box and doing so does not interfere with software updates (particularly on Nexus devices). Jailbreaking is just silly when there is a better option out there.
 
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Vegastouch

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There is nothing less sensible than jailbreaking an iPhone. Android is customizable out of the box and doing so does not interfere with software updates (particularly on Nexus devices). Jailbreaking is just silly when there is a better option out there.

Well you have to consider whether or not you really want an iPhone. Some want an iPhone just because it is an iPhone but want it to be more open. When i had an iPhone years ago, i had to jailbreak it to make it better for what i wanted.Then i tried Android and that was it,..... and that was with Froyo. So much better since then but still trumped iOS at that time.

Today i dont feel i need to root my Androids which i used to do and i havent rooted one for a couple years now. Id still need to jailbreak an iPhone if i had one.
 

unclejamaal

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There is nothing less sensible than jailbreaking an iPhone. Android is customizable out of the box and doing so does not interfere with software updates (particularly on Nexus devices). Jailbreaking is just silly when there is a better option out there.

I know where you're coming from. In still leaving the nexus option open but at the moment iPhone re-selling prices are at an all time low and I'm not prepared to take such a big hit for a two month old phone.

I'm hoping second user nexus appear on the market after Christmas so I'm not discounting anything just yet but for the moment , iPhone it is ;)

Plus, it's nice to have wifi calling enabled and available now on the iPhone , whereas availability is yet to be confirmed for my carrier on the nexus . Hopefully will be available soon :)
 
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nj1266

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There is nothing less sensible than jailbreaking an iPhone. Android is customizable out of the box and doing so does not interfere with software updates (particularly on Nexus devices). Jailbreaking is just silly when there is a better option out there.

If the only Android phone that you want is a Nexus, then I would agree with you. But the best selling Androids are locked down on three of the four major carriers. In some cases you can't even unlock the boot loader and you cannot flash custom Kernels and roms.

My Verizon HTC One M7 is locked down pretty tight. I have to pay $25 to get bootloader unlocked so I can customize it to my liking and remove the bloat ware that VZW and HTC installed. I just finished updating my HTC One M7 to lollipop and I am told there is no way to root lollipop on the Verizon version.

On my Verizon S3 I was only able to root the phone. There is no way to write custom Kernels for roms. I can only use TW based roms.

Jail breaking is much easier and I do not have to deal with multiple carriers and OEMs producing different phones. I am certain that any iPhone/iPad on iOS 9.02 can be jailbroken no matter who the carrier is. There is no guess work and no extra money to pay like I would have had to do for my HTC One M7.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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I know where you're coming from. In still leaving the nexus option open but at the moment iPhone re-selling prices are at an all time low and I'm not prepared to take such a big hit for a two month old phone.

I'm hoping second user nexus appear on the market after Christmas so I'm not discounting anything just yet but for the moment , iPhone it is ;)

Plus, it's nice to have wifi calling enabled and available now on the iPhone , whereas availability is yet to be confirmed for my carrier on the nexus . Hopefully will be available soon :)
Completely understand. With the saturation of smartphones across multiple markets, phone prices are dropping. I didn't resell my iPhone 6, I let my mother in law have it (which is a win for those of us married folks)
 

Blaze4G

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If the only Android phone that you want is a Nexus, then I would agree with you. But the best selling Androids are locked down on three of the four major carriers. In some cases you can't even unlock the boot loader and you cannot flash custom Kernels and roms.

My Verizon HTC One M7 is locked down pretty tight. I have to pay $25 to get bootloader unlocked so I can customize it to my liking and remove the bloat ware that VZW and HTC installed. I just finished updating my HTC One M7 to lollipop and I am told there is no way to root lollipop on the Verizon version.

On my Verizon S3 I was only able to root the phone. There is no way to write custom Kernels for roms. I can only use TW based roms.

Jail breaking is much easier and I do not have to deal with multiple carriers and OEMs producing different phones. I am certain that any iPhone/iPad on iOS 9.02 can be jailbroken no matter who the carrier is. There is no guess work and no extra money to pay like I would have had to do for my HTC One M7.

can you stop? This thread is for Nexus phones. Not your HTC One M7. Do you even know what customization is? You can download Nova launcher on your M7 right? You can download lock screen apps to customize it right? you can use nova launcher to implement gestures for certain task / activities right? You cn use Nova launcher to change animations right? you can add widgets and change icon packs right? You can use tasker to automate right? You can do all of this without root right?

I did not know customization only included changing roms and kernels.

Here is a link for you to read up about Nova Launcher since you obviously don't know what it is.
http://www.androidcentral.com/nova-launcher-may-be-best-thing-ever-happened-android

Just a snippet from the article "Yes, Nova Launcher may be the best thing that ever happened to Android. Endless customization (without fiddling or flashing anything) is important to plenty of us."
 
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Vegastouch

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If the only Android phone that you want is a Nexus, then I would agree with you. But the best selling Androids are locked down on three of the four major carriers. In some cases you can't even unlock the boot loader and you cannot flash custom Kernels and roms.

My Verizon HTC One M7 is locked down pretty tight. I have to pay $25 to get bootloader unlocked so I can customize it to my liking and remove the bloat ware that VZW and HTC installed. I just finished updating my HTC One M7 to lollipop and I am told there is no way to root lollipop on the Verizon version.

On my Verizon S3 I was only able to root the phone. There is no way to write custom Kernels for roms. I can only use TW based roms.

Jail breaking is much easier and I do not have to deal with multiple carriers and OEMs producing different phones. I am certain that any iPhone/iPad on iOS 9.02 can be jailbroken no matter who the carrier is. There is no guess work and no extra money to pay like I would have had to do for my HTC One M7.
Seriously, is this for real? There are so many things you can do without rooting and why i dont feel a need to do it. You don't NEED a ROM to change a bunch of stuff and is why Android blows away iOS.....even better than a jailbroken one.

Have you been to XDA to try and root? I'm sure there is a workaround from them to unlock the bootloader in that old HTC M7. Samsung has always been the easiest to root. Not sure about now because I don't care to root cause I don't need to.
 
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Ddyracer

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Seriously, is this for real? There are so many things you can do without rooting and why i dont feel a need to do it. You don't NEED a ROM to change a bunch of stuff and is why Android blows away iOS.....even better than a jailbroken one.

Have you been to XDA to try and root? I'm sure there is a workaround from them to unlock the bootloader in that old HTC M7. Samsung has always been the easiest to root. Not sure about now because I don't care to root cause I don't need to.
the point is though if we are comparing jaikbroken idevices to rooted android devices jailbreaking is a lot easier even with a nexus or samsung using some one click toolkit.

i do agree stock android beats ios. And touchwiz has crazy features that annihilates ios no need to root it unless you want to debloat, but most of us agree on that i think.
 

Vegastouch

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the point is though if we are comparing jaikbroken idevices to rooted android devices jailbreaking is a lot easier even with a nexus or samsung using some one click toolkit.

i do agree stock android beats ios. And touchwiz has crazy features that annihilates ios no need to root it unless you want to debloat, but most of us agree on that i think.
I don't know, I haven' rooted in a couple years or so. It was easy then and you have many devs working in it as opposed to a few jailbreaker devs and doesn't it usually take some months to get it?
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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I don't know, I haven' rooted in a couple years or so. It was easy then and you have many devs working in it as opposed to a few jailbreaker devs and doesn't it usually take some months to get it?
There are one click tool kits for Nexus and unlocked phones that make it very easy. Even non techies can do it.
 

nj1266

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Jan 15, 2012
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Seriously, is this for real? There are so many things you can do without rooting and why i dont feel a need to do it. You don't NEED a ROM to change a bunch of stuff and is why Android blows away iOS.....even better than a jailbroken one.

Have you been to XDA to try and root? I'm sure there is a workaround from them to unlock the bootloader in that old HTC M7. Samsung has always been the easiest to root. Not sure about now because I don't care to root cause I don't need to.

It is a matter of opinion. But I have a jailbroken iPhone and it does a lot of the things that I used to do on my S3 and HTC One.

I have been on XDA for a while and I have looked for a way to unlock the boot loader on the One with Lollipop, but there isn't. There are a lot of Android phones like that especially on Verizon.

I love the One m7. Even after two years it is still an amazing phone. Too bad I cannot unlock it and debloat it.
 

epicrayban

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Nov 7, 2014
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T-Mobile's been nothing but great for me. Service-wise, customer service-wise, and price-wise.

I do wish their signal could penetrate buildings more, though. There's always room to get better.
 

AppleRobert

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Nov 12, 2012
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5x is $80 bucks off for black Friday. Nothing on 6p (ugh).

Return policy also extended for holidays. If you purchase between Nov 27 and Dec 25, you have till Jan 22nd go return.

I pulled the trigger. Hope Google will sort out the software issues by Xmas.

Hi all, I lurk no more! :)

Took advantage of the price reduction and the 5x is on its way. Couldn't pass on it for the price with the extended holiday return window.

I am not looking for it to do any more than surpass the Nexus 5, that is all. I'm sure I'll be pleased
 
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unclejamaal

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So annoyed - I ordered a couple of days before the extended holiday grace period. Pity I can't keep it until then at least. LOL
 

epicrayban

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5x came in. Played with it a little bit. Not bad. Impressive piece of phone given it's made of plastic. Feels very solid in hand, like a thin, sturdy chocolate bar. Finger print is great. Software pretty good too. Camera is surprisingly good as reviews have said.

Didn't get to dive much into it as it's a gift so didn't want to mess around too much with it. Just updated the software and played with it a bit.

Next year there really should be a 5P.
 
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MRU

macrumors Penryn
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I'm actually using my 6P as my daily driver for last week rather than a secondary or third device. I'm actually really enjoying the device though my issues with Android devices and a lack of consistent battery life or even consistent standby still persists despite 'improvements' in Marshmallow.

Some days (or should that be nights) I will take the device off charge at 100% at 11pm and by 8am next morning it may have dropped only 3-4%, however then on other days it could be 20%

Likewise my activities do not really change on my phones on a daily basis, it's usually same usage. Yet one day I may have 50% battery left before charging and the next it could be 10% ...

It's just never really consistent and whilst I've never been caught out without battery, it's still incredibly irksome to have such varying results.

Now of course this isn't exclusive to this particular handset, I find exact same experience on my Moto X Pure and all the Samsung devices I've had this year. So it's more of an android experience. I just wish it was more consistent so that this discussion or topic dissipated.

Other than that however I love the speed and fluidity alongside the memory and performance of the 6P. I've never felt it get really warm in use compared to my other devices (especially the Pure which always feels a little warm despite having the weaker and supposedly more efficient 808).

The finger print scanner works 95% of the time and I actually like its placement. Maybe because it echoes the M dimple on a Moto device.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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Austin, TX
I'm actually using my 6P as my daily driver for last week rather than a secondary or third device. I'm actually really enjoying the device though my issues with Android devices and a lack of consistent battery life or even consistent standby still persists despite 'improvements' in Marshmallow.

Some days (or should that be nights) I will take the device off charge at 100% at 11pm and by 8am next morning it may have dropped only 3-4%, however then on other days it could be 20%

Likewise my activities do not really change on my phones on a daily basis, it's usually same usage. Yet one day I may have 50% battery left before charging and the next it could be 10% ...

It's just never really consistent and whilst I've never been caught out without battery, it's still incredibly irksome to have such varying results.

Now of course this isn't exclusive to this particular handset, I find exact same experience on my Moto X Pure and all the Samsung devices I've had this year. So it's more of an android experience. I just wish it was more consistent so that this discussion or topic dissipated.

Other than that however I love the speed and fluidity alongside the memory and performance of the 6P. I've never felt it get really warm in use compared to my other devices (especially the Pure which always feels a little warm despite having the weaker and supposedly more efficient 808).

The finger print scanner works 95% of the time and I actually like its placement. Maybe because it echoes the M dimple on a Moto device.
I echo this sentiment to some extent. Every day, I finish the day with 25% or greater battery life, but it's still a little weird that the performance day to day is inconsistent. However, on its worst day, my 6P has outperformed my iPhone 6, so that's an improvement.

As far as the Nexus 5P, I think Google has (rightly) bet that mid range phones are the future and won't make a 5P unless they can keep the price down.
 
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