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When will the iMac be refreshed?

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DQ11

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Apr 12, 2018
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If they told you then all these threads would be void. Have you heard of marketing and hype?

Apple know exactly what they are doing and your needs arent necessarily their priority. Although its ridiculously frustrating.

What is this marketing and hype you speak of? Never heard these words in my life.

Seriously though I understand why, but I just wish they had a better way of going about doing it....Wish there was more consistency that we as users could plan around.
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Gotta side with Dave245 here. The apple representatives and geniuses have no idea as to when Apple will refresh their lines. There's no way Apple is gonna blueball their entire customer base and not upgrade those 7th-gen processors to 8th-gen before the next year. And really, that's all I'm looking for before I purchase a new iMac. I'm on a pretty old Macbook pro and I am just trying to hold out until Apple refreshes their iMac line.

Yea, 6 core i5 would be perfect for me for Logic Pro X. Although so would the 65w i7-7700.
 
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cwanja

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Jun 23, 2010
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Store staff don’t know nor do they have inside information about what products are coming out, the only people who know are the higher up executives and Tim Cook of course.

Ming Chi Kuo released a report a few weeks back which said an iMac with “significant display-performance upgrades” will be coming later this year.

https://9to5mac.com/2018/07/11/kuo-iphone-ipad-mac-apple-watch-rumors/
Going to side with @andrewhowe00 - they have no idea. When I worked at Apple (2008 - 2011), we had no idea when stuff was dropping and that was early iPhone days.

Gotta side with Dave245 here. The apple representatives and geniuses have no idea as to when Apple will refresh their lines. There's no way Apple is gonna blueball their entire customer base and not upgrade those 7th-gen processors to 8th-gen before the next year. And really, that's all I'm looking for before I purchase a new iMac. I'm on a pretty old Macbook pro and I am just trying to hold out until Apple refreshes their iMac line.
I am in the SAME boat with you - my nearly 10 year old MacBook Pro is limping along and I want to replace it with an iMac that has as close to today technology as possible. In the advice forum, I was debating an iMac versus iMac Pro and settled on an iMac (27"). But I cannot fathom spending the money on an iMac today with the "older" processors that are in there. I am wanting a machine for 8 - 10 years like I did with this MacBook Pro.
 

wardie

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Aug 18, 2008
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It may not have all the original components, but as long as the logic board stays the same, it's still a 2010 Mac Pro.

Indeed. I have a 2008 MP and over the years before I got a iMac last year I managed to keep it running OK by pimping it up with extra memory, various SSDs, PCIe flash drive, USB3 and eSATA cards, upgraded graphics card etc. But the motherboard and CPUs (2x Xeon) remained. Main issue was that software compatibility started to get tricky with older OSX, as well as slow graphics for photoshop/lightroom. But fundamentally the point is that given the traditional PC chassis design that machine was designed up to be upgraded easily, all-in-ones and laptops are not obviously. But no reason why Apple couldn’t do a full size Mac Pro Mk II rather than a trash can.
 
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DQ11

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Apr 12, 2018
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Going to side with @andrewhowe00 - they have no idea. When I worked at Apple (2008 - 2011), we had no idea when stuff was dropping and that was early iPhone days.


I am in the SAME boat with you - my nearly 10 year old MacBook Pro is limping along and I want to replace it with an iMac that has as close to today technology as possible. In the advice forum, I was debating an iMac versus iMac Pro and settled on an iMac (27"). But I cannot fathom spending the money on an iMac today with the "older" processors that are in there. I am wanting a machine for 8 - 10 years like I did with this MacBook Pro.

same here. Running a 2007 MBP...it's beyond outdated but all I ever used it for was making music in logic pro...I don't want to spend a ton of money on old tech...it's going to be $3,000-3,500 anyways so I might as well get the best specs I can for the money.

I cool, quiet 6 core i5 would be perfect.
 

andrewhowe00

macrumors newbie
Jul 24, 2018
6
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The insane hardware jump (not as much as some of yours) between my Macbook pro 2011 and this coming iMac is gonna feel so good. I won’t settle for 300-day-old hardware. I want my Apple computer experience to make the biggest leap forward it can! Waiting for this release is like how it felt when I used to stay up on Christmas eve for Christmas day—it feels like it’s taking forever and I am constantly thinking about it. Except with this, I have to wait several weeks/months, and I have no idea what day it will be :mad:
 

294307

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Mar 19, 2009
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I believe most 8th generation Intel Core processors, at least the kind that the iMac would use, are 6-core, so it seems obvious all the upcoming higher-end iMacs would have 6-core Intel Core i5 processors with BTO options to 6-core i7 and i9 chips. It's still speculation, yes I know. No one really knows for certain.

The display performance improvements Ming Chi Kuo mentioned... I wonder if that's just referring to True Tone. Seems like a natural progression: first the iPad Pro, next the MacBook Pro and the iMac series afterwards.

That poor MacBook Air looks really neglected. I wish they would update it with faster processors, a butterfly keyboard and BTO options to 16 GB of memory. Some of us want a MacBook Pro with more ports! :(
 

jinnyman

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Sep 2, 2011
762
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Just sold my 2014 5k iMac. It was a great machine and I'm really sad to let it go, but the machine started to show its age unfortunately. I'm not sure whether I'm going to purchase another iMac. The only problem with iMac is that it cannot accept external input and act as a monitor.

Hopefully, Apple will come up with either great Mac Pro or Mac Mini update. Good bye all!
 

EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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The SSD is expensive, but then again PCIe SSDs are usually expensive so you need to factor that in too.
 

macduke

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Jun 27, 2007
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With the internals changing a bit with this update, I worry about the ability to upgrade RAM in any new 5K iMac. I'm like 90% sure that I'm going to wait and see what the Mac Pro has to offer as I was either going to get a low end Mac Pro, low end iMac Pro, or high end 5K iMac. I just wish I could know the price in advance. If they're going to do a crazy redesign and the starting price is $3999 (it's currently $2999) and the modular components are locked down to a small set that Apple will offer for sale at a very high price then I'll not bother with it and upgrade to the iMac whenever it comes out. I'm kind of in a weird position as a professional who sometimes needs higher end performance but not all the time, but I'd like to be able to bootcamp to play some games on Steam at higher quality settings and I don't want to mess around with building a PC like I did back in the day. So I really want the lower-end of the high-end that I can possibly upgrade over many years.
 

craigrusse11

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May 24, 2017
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The SSD is expensive, but then again PCIe SSDs are usually expensive so you need to factor that in too.

SSDs are nowhere near as expensive as apple makes out. 256 SSD in m.2 configurations are now slipping into £500 laptops.. when Apple are offering £1500 to £2000 desktops with spinning disks it’s a bit rich of them to ask for more to get ssd.

The iMac in particular is terrible value right now. Only the CPU and display are premium, everything else is very very middle of the road for this price bracket.
 

EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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SSDs are nowhere near as expensive as apple makes out. 256 SSD in m.2 configurations are now slipping into £500 laptops.. when Apple are offering £1500 to £2000 desktops with spinning disks it’s a bit rich of them to ask for more to get ssd.

The iMac in particular is terrible value right now. Only the CPU and display are premium, everything else is very very middle of the road for this price bracket.
Yes, on the non-Mac side, PCIe is becoming much more common, but you should also be aware that Apple uses top-of-the-line models. The ones used in iMacs correspond to the models like the Samsung 960 Pro.

For example, at Dell, the 512 GB 960 Pro is US$480. It's cheaper at the discount store Newegg.com, at $260, but that's still considerably more expensive than say the 860 EVO which is half that at $130.
 
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Yebubbleman

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May 20, 2010
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Maybe they have nothing to announce.

I'm honestly leaning towards this answer. It's not like they don't have new CPUs that they can easily toss into any of the non-Pro iMacs that, alone, would be enough of an upgrade. Because they totally do. Based on earlier reports (from maybe prior to the launch of the first Touch Bar MacBook Pros), it seems as though Apple's Mac team is either much smaller or running at a much more limited capacity than it had in the past. My guess is that the MacBook Pro, being arguably their most popular Mac type gets the love alongside initiatives like the iMac Pro that are needed to (attempt to) convince the professional desktop market that Apple still kind of cares about them. The iMac gets some love here and there, but half the attention that the MacBook Pro gets. Though, I'd imagine that is based on popularity.

Frankly the "Love" Apple is giving the MacBook Pros makes me happy that, despite maybe not getting timely CPU and GPU updates, their other Macs are left out of horrible things like the T2 chip.
 

DQ11

macrumors regular
Apr 12, 2018
199
65
The insane hardware jump (not as much as some of yours) between my Macbook pro 2011 and this coming iMac is gonna feel so good. I won’t settle for 300-day-old hardware. I want my Apple computer experience to make the biggest leap forward it can! Waiting for this release is like how it felt when I used to stay up on Christmas eve for Christmas day—it feels like it’s taking forever and I am constantly thinking about it. Except with this, I have to wait several weeks/months, and I have no idea what day it will be :mad:
I feel the same way kind of. At least with Christmas eve you can do something for a few hours to distract yourself until the next day....

This is like having groundhogs day on Christmas Eve.
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I believe most 8th generation Intel Core processors, at least the kind that the iMac would use, are 6-core, so it seems obvious all the upcoming higher-end iMacs would have 6-core Intel Core i5 processors with BTO options to 6-core i7 and i9 chips. It's still speculation, yes I know. No one really knows for certain.

The display performance improvements Ming Chi Kuo mentioned... I wonder if that's just referring to True Tone. Seems like a natural progression: first the iPad Pro, next the MacBook Pro and the iMac series afterwards.

That poor MacBook Air looks really neglected. I wish they would update it with faster processors, a butterfly keyboard and BTO options to 16 GB of memory. Some of us want a MacBook Pro with more ports! :(

The problem when checking geekbench is that all the new 6 core's are worse in single core score than most of the 2017 imac's.

Wondering if getting a 2017 would be better for Logic Pro X with single core stuff......obviously multicore the 6 cores would be better.
 

Dave245

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Sep 15, 2013
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Apple might hold an October even this year for Mac’s:

New 13” budget MacBook (rumoured)
New iMac (possibly redesign)
MacBook 12” updates
Mac Mini could also get updated

A small event could be possible in October.
 

mreg376

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Mar 23, 2008
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Yes, it is possible. I think everyone here is tired of seeing post after post after post about what is "possible." Actual factual information about what is likely to happen is what everyone is waiting for. I see a new post in this thread and then rush to it -- and yet all there is is the 500th "what's possible."
 
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Dave245

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Yes, it is possible. I think everyone here is tired of seeing post after post after post about what is "possible." Actual factual information about what is likely to happen is what everyone is waiting for. I see a new post in this thread and then rush to it -- and yet all there is is the 500th "what's possible."

Your in the wrong forum then, this is Macrumours!
 
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mreg376

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Haha true. But rumors often have some basis in fact. As unreliable as even rumors are, we don't even have that -- just hopes and guesses. Apple should be running Homeland Security.
 

Dave245

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Sep 15, 2013
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Haha true. But rumors often have some basis in fact. As unreliable as even rumors are, we don't even have that -- just hopes and guesses. Apple should be running Homeland Security.

There are some rumours, i don't know if you saw last years Reddit thread from a Foxconn insider? but a lot of the information he gave turned out to be accurate (iPhone X, iPhone 8, Hompod/Siri Speaker and more recently the 32GB Ram option for the 15" MacBook Pro)

He has said that there will be a redesign for 2018. i've included some screen shots from the thread which is still there by the way.
 

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mreg376

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Yes, they've been good, especially for iPhones, which have a much more widespread supply chain and probably more vulnerable to leaks. But it really doesn't take much to "predict" in 2017 that there will be an iMac redesign in 2018. Everyone on the planet predicted that. We shall see.
 

enc0re

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There are some rumours, i don't know if you saw last years Reddit thread from a Foxconn insider? but a lot of the information he gave turned out to be accurate (iPhone X, iPhone 8, Hompod/Siri Speaker and more recently the 32GB Ram option for the 15" MacBook Pro)

He has said that there will be a redesign for 2018. i've included some screen shots from the thread which is still there by the way.

If it’s still there, would you mind linking the thread?
 
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