With CRT displays high refresh rates are more important since the phosphors decay and will appear to flicker if the refresh rate is too low, but on LCDs too motion will appear smoother with a higher refresh rate.
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No 2018 iMac?!
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With CRT displays high refresh rates are more important since the phosphors decay and will appear to flicker if the refresh rate is too low, but on LCDs too motion will appear smoother with a higher refresh rate.
My 2017 MacBook was released (June 5, 2017) less than 2 months after its Core m3-7Y32 launched (April 10, 2017).
Same difference with the iPad Pros that have ProMotion. So much smoother animations on a big screen.
The new iMac is going to be more expensive that's for sure, especially if they remove the RAM access on the 27".
I was seriously considering the 2017 for a couple reasons a) it will be cheaper than the 2019 b) £100 would allow me to take 8gb to 24gb, no guarantee on the 2019 we will have RAM access c) I can get it now b) in day to day usage I doubt a new CPU will make much difference.
However, knowing there is potentially a 2019 around the corner I would be pretty silly not to wait.
I was seriously considering the 2017 for a couple reasons a) it will be cheaper than the 2019 b) £100 would allow me to take 8gb to 24gb, no guarantee on the 2019 we will have RAM access c) I can get it now b) in day to day usage I doubt a new CPU will make much difference.
However, knowing there is potentially a 2019 around the corner I would be pretty silly not to wait.
I guess it will be more expensive like in "upgrade to 512 GB SSD now" - would be 250 euros here in Austria. That will be the new starting price, methinks.
I would agree with that statement only if you have the feasibility to wait. If not, the 2017 machine is fine. The flip side to your statement is that you do not know how long you could be waiting for. Which feeds into my reply.
if you can wait then wait. 2017 is fine but its expensive for what it is as its out of date. 2019 will bring imac for sure (99% certain) but the question is when.
My bet is on WWDC the earliest but if that fails then October/November event is given
I do not know about the UK, because it seems like no one in Europe can catch a damn break with pricing, but in the US, I have always waited until the newer model is released and then watch for deals at B&H Photo or Adorama, sometimes Best Buy. If you can wait, and if this is actually an option for you, it does two things -
1) You get to see how much a new iMac is going to cost and whether the update is worth it
and
2) If it is not worth it or the cost is too high, you can get a 2017 for a significant discount.
Again, this is predicated on a retail chain in the UK similar to B&H discounting older stock to get it out the door. My intuition tells me that is not generally the case and that I am very spoiled in that regard. If not, then I would get a 2017 iMac if you really need it now. Otherwise, I would wait for the 2019...
I see you have an Apple Refurbished Store in the UK, but that iMacs are out. You might want to check into the cost once the Store is replenished. I have had great luck with refurbs and Apple Care is an easier cost to justify when you buy a refurbished unit.
if you can wait then wait. 2017 is fine but its expensive for what it is as its out of date. 2019 will bring imac for sure (99% certain) but the question is when.
My bet is on WWDC the earliest but if that fails then October/November event is given
Hope it's not Oct/Nov ... since that would mean it wouldn't work with 10.14 Mojave. I'm hoping the next generation iMacs come in during Mojave - making them the last, but great 32-bit capable macs.
Good advice. Only problem with this method is getting a CTO Mac; I’d want to order with a 256/512 GB SSD.
B&H will occasionally discount them regardless as they keep a pretty wide range of options in stock. I do remember them discounting the 2015 27" with the 3.3GHZ Core i5, 8GB DRAM/256GB SSD/M395X to $1699. I passed as the thought of disassembling to put a 6700K and a 2.5" SSD just didn't appeal to me...I wish Apple would at least make the drive bay accessible, but I digress...Thunderbolt 2 was also a minus in my book.
I really need to divest all of my TB1 and TB2 equipment, but that means getting a new iPad Pro as well and I just cannot justify the cost until Apple shows iOS 13 and some Pro apps that can actually take advantage of the compute power offered. Especially when B&H is offering a 2017 iPad 12.9" 512GB/4G LTE for $799 if you keep your ears tuned and your eyes sharp. The equivalent 2018 is $1499.00...call me cheap, but the 2018 is not worth nearly double.
Also, I think it really depends on how many 2017 models are in the channel when Apple releases the 2019 iMac. It took for-damn-ever to get rid of the 2016 MacBook Pros and the 2015 iMacs for B&H, Adorama, et al. I doubt the 2017 iMac will have the same problem.
Anyways..may you have good fortune in the future finding an economical 2017 model if you decide to go that route.
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Is there a particular 32-bit app that you depend on daily for work or pleasure? Just curious, as I see a few people who keep mentioning this, but I do not see it as a worthwhile enough feature.
Legacy application support.
Any applications which haven't been updated to 64-bit won't work at all on 10.15.
My workplace uses enterprise VPN software that is 32-bit. Apparently, there is a 64-bit version in the works, but it will likely be a year or two until it's actually validated at my workplace. My workplace takes a long time to change, and is still on Windows 7 for example.
It amazes me that we are this far in to 64-bit and in the year 2019 users are still dealing with 32-bit apps, at least on the Mac side. Thanks for the information.
The software is Pulse Secure. The Windows 64-bit version has been out for quite some time, but the 64-bit Mac version has been a long time coming. However, I just checked and it's out! It came out in December 2018.
However, as mentioned my workplace can be a couple of years behind in supporting various Pulse Secure versions. For me it doesn't matter since I have a 2017 iMac and 2017 MacBook which run the 32-bit version just fine, but it would be a problem for a coworker buying a new Mac this fall if it isn't able to run 10.14.
I also checked a third party institution that typically implements Pulse Secure way earlier than we do and they haven't implemented the 64-bit version either, although that makes sense since it came out less than 2 months ago. However, they typically get 'er done within a year, so by the end of 2019 they'd probably be on board.
Mind you, my guess is it's not going to be an issue, because I'm guessing the new iMacs will be out by next quarter, and thus will be running 10.14.
What’s everyone’s thoughts if you can pick up a iMac Pro at a decent price or still wait it out.
Not in no rush and it only be used for a little gaming, handbrake encoding, browsing and email
Not in no rush and it only be used for a little gaming, handbrake encoding, browsing and email
For me it's a few key apps, including but not limited to ...
1) iDVD (yes believe or not I still need to burn dvd's now and again and iDVD still works in Mojave. It is still by far the easiest and best way to create decent looking DVD's)
2) A handful of games, including MAME OsX, which is by far the easiest way to play my huge library of legacy arcade game roms.
On top of everything, I don't see there being a huge gain in performance or anything once 32-bit support is finally gone. The difference, I think, will be subtle, at best.
So I just dont see the ‘harm’ in having 32-bit support
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Smaller bezels will make the price go up a lot. Space grey option, too. And don’t forget those extra cores, a t3 chip and face-id components. Apple will have sore feet from all the price hiking.
The new concept looks great. I think the idea of having iPad style kinda looks make sense. Tiny bezels but overall just big screen. However, I feel that the structure would need to change. Or, just have the same and make the screen bigger.
Ideally, we all want iMac Pro cooling system so we can have nice and quiet machine even when going for i7
Ideally, we all want iMac Pro cooling system so we can have nice and quiet machine even when going for i7
