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When will the iMac be refreshed?

  • September/October Event

  • November/December Event

  • March/April Event

  • WWDC 2019


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CWallace

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So evidently the macOS drivers to support the new 7nm AMD Vega GPUs is currently being developed for 10.14.4 so that means it might be another WDCC general refresh for the iMac and MacBook Pros with Touchbars.
 

BigBoy2018

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So evidently the macOS drivers to support the new 7nm AMD Vega GPUs is currently being developed for 10.14.4 so that means it might be another WDCC general refresh for the iMac and MacBook Pros with Touchbars.

Can you link the source? If true, that's encouraging news. Very encouraging.
 

fokmik

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but at 300W i think this could be used only in the upcoming mac pro if they will let user to replace the GPU
I dont know how much imac pro can handle. Maybe AMD will make more 7nm gpu for the imac 120W also
 

LiE_

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Given up waiting. Built a custom PC for £2k.

Intel i9700k overclocked to 5Ghz
Cooled by water
16GB RAM
500GB M.2 storage
1TB SSD Storage
nVidia RTX 2060
750w Platnium power supply
All in an ITX small form factor case connected to a Dell U2719D 1440p monitor.

Couldn’t be happier tbh. Most components come with a 3-5 year warranty and can easily be replaced.
 

Freida

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Given up waiting. Built a custom PC for £2k.

Intel i9700k overclocked to 5Ghz
Cooled by water
16GB RAM
500GB M.2 storage
1TB SSD Storage
nVidia RTX 2060
750w Platnium power supply
All in an ITX small form factor case connected to a Dell U2719D 1440p monitor.

Couldn’t be happier tbh. Most components come with a 3-5 year warranty and can easily be replaced.
Are you gonna make it a Hackintosh? I'm considering going to PC with MacOS on it.
Fed up with Apple taking ages and being so behind with everything. Last awesome product was 2008 Mac Pro. Best deal for the money. Loved that machine.
12 core 2010 wasn't bad either although that one was super expensive :)
 

LiE_

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Are you gonna make it a Hackintosh? I'm considering going to PC with MacOS on it.
Fed up with Apple taking ages and being so behind with everything. Last awesome product was 2008 Mac Pro. Best deal for the money. Loved that machine.
12 core 2010 wasn't bad either although that one was super expensive :)

Nope running windows 10. It’s better at running MS office which I use for work. Adobe apps run exactly the same. Chrome is a solid browser and Spotify for music. I still have an iPhone so don’t get handoff and iMessage from the PC but those are small things.

MacOS looks nicer but when your getting stuff done the difference isn’t noticeable. I can play some AAA games as well with a GPU that cost £350.
 

Freida

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Nope running windows 10. It’s better at running MS office which I use for work. Adobe apps run exactly the same. Chrome is a solid browser and Spotify for music. I still have an iPhone so don’t get handoff and iMessage from the PC but those are small things.

MacOS looks nicer but when your getting stuff done the difference isn’t noticeable. I can play some AAA games as well with a GPU that cost £350.
I see, cool.
Well, I can't deal with Windows. I left that part of me behind and don't really wanna go back to their silly register and endless maintenance. So for me its either Hackintosh or Linux :)
 

LiE_

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I see, cool.
Well, I can't deal with Windows. I left that part of me behind and don't really wanna go back to their silly register and endless maintenance. So for me its either Hackintosh or Linux :)

How long ago did you use windows ?! I haven’t touched registry in years. There’s zero maintenance required, honestly.
 

Wezzywebb

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I currently have a mid 2012 base spec 27" iMac ,I,m thinking of upgrading to the latest base spec 27" version ,I can pick one up for £1431 here in the UK ,as much as I would love to get the new version when/if its released ,I doubt that it will come in at less than £2000 .
Is the base spec latest version much of an upgrade over my current 2012 version ?
 

wardie

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Are you gonna make it a Hackintosh? I'm considering going to PC with MacOS on it.
Fed up with Apple taking ages and being so behind with everything. Last awesome product was 2008 Mac Pro. Best deal for the money. Loved that machine.
12 core 2010 wasn't bad either although that one was super expensive :)

Still got my CheeseGrater3.1 eleven years on and it still works fine. Definitely relatively cheap at the time compared to today’s line up. Have pimped it up over the years, because I can... blades, RAID, GPU upgrade, USB3 card etc. Twin Xeon still packs some punch. DVD drive gave up yonks ago though. Gave in eventually and also use a iMac 2017 5k 27” mainly for the lovely screen.
 
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netdudeuk

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I currently have a mid 2012 base spec 27" iMac ,I,m thinking of upgrading to the latest base spec 27" version ,I can pick one up for £1431 here in the UK ,as much as I would love to get the new version when/if its released ,I doubt that it will come in at less than £2000 .
Is the base spec latest version much of an upgrade over my current 2012 version ?

£1431 ? Good price. From who ?
 

darinzook

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Daily driver is still a Mid-2011 27” TB iMac. Direly in need of refresh, but hoping for a chinless iMac as its replacement. Hoping 2019 could be the year?
 

HappyIntro

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Daily driver is still a Mid-2011 27” TB iMac. Direly in need of refresh, but hoping for a chinless iMac as its replacement. Hoping 2019 could be the year?

Just curious, what if 2019 does not turn out to be chinless or a major re-design? So many folks on MacRumors state they are waiting for some nebulous update that sometimes happens and sometimes does not. Maybe it's time to get what's available now and plan on an upgrade in 3 - 5 years? So often there's rumors about something, but in the meantime users could be using nice currently available computers that are plenty fast enough for their needs.
 

EugW

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One might guess (or hope?) that the reason the iMac is at a record between updates is because it is getting a form factor change. It's now at 615 days since the last update BTW.

But no, I'm not hugely optimistic either.
 

MandiMac

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One might guess (or hope?) that the reason the iMac is at a record between updates is because it is getting a form factor change. It's now at 615 days since the last update BTW.

But no, I'm not hugely optimistic either.
I'm thinking about internal redesign. Why not using iMac Pro templates for the 27-incher? The story the new Mac mini tells us is that iMacs will go all-SSD, T2-chipped and maybe better thermals too. Economies of scale dictate that it makes no sense using two different bodies for the same computer, and they'll shrink that eventually down somewhat to the 21.5 incher, or not. But i wouldn't bank on an external redesign.
 

Eerriikkoo

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A redesigned regular iMac would mean the iMac pro looks more outdated than it already did. Maybe they will only steal some of it’s features like better ventilation and a space grey option, while adding a t2 chip and maybe face id.
 

MandiMac

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A redesigned regular iMac would mean the iMac pro looks more outdated than it already did. Maybe they will only steal some of it’s features like better ventilation and a space grey option, while adding a t2 chip and maybe face id.
Yep - and all the people who want the innards of the iMac in its base instead of behind the screen are not taking ventilation into account. The aluminium back works wonders in terms of heat dissipation - if Apple were to cram a 6-core CPU and a Radeon GPU into the somewhat small base, we would be stuck with a fast whirring loud fan. Maybe it would be more feasible with water cooling, but aside that dreamery, iMac will most likely stay as it is on the outside :)
 

darinzook

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Just curious, what if 2019 does not turn out to be chinless or a major re-design? So many folks on MacRumors state they are waiting for some nebulous update that sometimes happens and sometimes does not. Maybe it's time to get what's available now and plan on an upgrade in 3 - 5 years? So often there's rumors about something, but in the meantime users could be using nice currently available computers that are plenty fast enough for their needs.

I would argue that it’s not as nebulous as you think. This design is really 14 years old, not just 9-11 years as many people would calculate it to be. While the design has iterated, its remained largely unchanged. I want to believe they’re making some big changes, but I’m certainly not spending a ton of cash on the current 2017 model. I do have a more modern MBP (2015) that I had purchased used for on the go, but it doesn’t pack the storage or memory my mid-2011 iMac does. It’s been a good machine. I can be patient when I want to be.
 

Freida

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How long ago did you use windows ?! I haven’t touched registry in years. There’s zero maintenance required, honestly.
2007 I switched to Mac. Before I used to build my own computers. Once I switched to mac I realised how unrefined windows were and there is a "required" set of skills one needs to have in order to run windows smoothly. It was just too much hassle. Every 12 months or so you needed to reinstall the system because it was getting bloated and slow, etc.

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Just curious, what if 2019 does not turn out to be chinless or a major re-design? So many folks on MacRumors state they are waiting for some nebulous update that sometimes happens and sometimes does not. Maybe it's time to get what's available now and plan on an upgrade in 3 - 5 years? So often there's rumors about something, but in the meantime users could be using nice currently available computers that are plenty fast enough for their needs.
I really hope you are not suggesting to people to not wait now that we are on all time high (almost) between updates. The Machine was released in 2017 and now its 2019. The update is given, its just matter of time and at this point I hope you are telling people to wait unless they really really need a machine NOW.
We have the data from the past and by looking at those it makes zero sense to buy now if you can wait. Sure, it might be WWDC the earliest (4 months away) or fall (+-8months away) but those that are waiting are usually those guys that have done some heavy lifting in the past and few months is not gonna make a difference.

and if there is no redesign then you might as well get an update next month or so so really, just wait. :)
 

CWallace

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I'm thinking about internal redesign. Why not using iMac Pro templates for the 27-incher? The story the new Mac mini tells us is that iMacs will go all-SSD, T2-chipped and maybe better thermals too.

I'd like to see better thermals, as well, however adopting the iMac Pro cooling system would mean the RAM would no longer be directly-accessible so you'd have to take the screen and system board out like you do on the iMac Pro.
 

Lankyman

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2007 I switched to Mac. Before I used to build my own computers. Once I switched to mac I realised how unrefined windows were and there is a "required" set of skills one needs to have in order to run windows smoothly. It was just too much hassle. Every 12 months or so you needed to reinstall the system because it was getting bloated and slow, etc.

:)

Fast forward 12 years and you now have a Windows OS (which according to many pundits) has raced past MacOS and simply put it in the ditch.

Before you respond with faux outrage, I have an iMac in one room and a Windows 10 in the other and both are used daily. I personally find Windows 10 to be the more pleasurable OS to use. I think whilst Apple were spending all their time, effort and money on iOS, Windows continued the investment and it shows.
 
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