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When will the iMac be refreshed?

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Well if you were willing and able to wait 8 months you may as well just keep on waiting...

Haha it may might have only been like 6 months and honestly I still need to sit aside the $$ for it. It’s for business but also play. It’ll go in my office and I’ve always wanted an iMac so I’m pretty pumped. Hope they give it a redesign.
 
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Actually Micro Center does not have them right now, and that would be for only the base model, with 32GB of non-easily upgradeable RAM. With tax and AppleCare, should the OP decide to get that, you're pushing $6,000 for a 32GB machine. And this forum has a number of odd and annoying issues popping up with the iMac Pro.

Yea I'd rather wait for a refresh than do that honestly. Especially after the rumor today.
 
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I am struggling to see the iMac screen getting improvements that aren't novelty like extra 100 nits of backlight or something. Going 8k, or 120Hz both requires GPUs being better than what is typically being offered in the regular iMac.

I think the wording of "display performance" just means using VEGA GPU.
 
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I am struggling to see the iMac screen getting improvements that aren't novelty like extra 100 nits of backlight or something. Going 8k, or 120Hz both requires GPUs being better than what is typically being offered in the regular iMac.

I think the wording of "display performance" just means using VEGA GPU.

Doubtful. They wouldn’t use that wording if that’s all it meant. Wouldn’t be worth the effort to pump it up. Imo if that was the case that would fall in the category of spec bump.
 
Doubtful. They wouldn’t use that wording if that’s all it meant. Wouldn’t be worth the effort to pump it up. Imo if that was the case that would fall in the category of spec bump.
The wording of choice indeed raises questions. I myself do welcome the ProMotion experience having owned the 10.5" iPad Pro. But on my 2017 5K iMac I frequently hit performance brickwall in Lightroom with respect to the retina screen requiring too much unnecessary computation, so it will be a dilemma for Apple to offer anything more exotic than what's already there, unless there is some serious system level graphic performance improvements. Maybe some new Metal 2 features optimized for 120Hz?
 
I am struggling to see the iMac screen getting improvements that aren't novelty like extra 100 nits of backlight or something. Going 8k, or 120Hz both requires GPUs being better than what is typically being offered in the regular iMac.

I think the wording of "display performance" just means using VEGA GPU.

I agree. I think this just refers to better graphics performance.
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Doubtful. They wouldn’t use that wording if that’s all it meant. Wouldn’t be worth the effort to pump it up. Imo if that was the case that would fall in the category of spec bump.
This isn’t from Apple, and nobody is pumping anything up. It’s the writing of a non-native English speaker, who is translating and interpreting leaks from Chinese workers in Apple’s China supply chain. I wouldn’t read anything into the wording. And in fact in the visual in his research note he specifically says “(CPU upgrades)” next to the text about new iMac.

Sounds exactly like a spec bump to me. Better CPU performance, better graphics performance.
 
Maybe the new GTX 1180 will go in it... Please! I'm either going to buy the new iMac, or the Mac Mini and build a monster gaming rig. Decisions, decisions....
 
Well if you were willing and able to wait 8 months you may as well just keep on waiting...

Ye its obviously not stopping the work getting done. Still its nice to buy a new product instead of knowing you spent your hard earned money on an old product.

It wouldn't be so bad if these new CPUs weren't screamers but they are...

Plus it would seem that apple may have done some work if they have spent so much time, but the likelihood is it will be very similar, same thermal issues. Reason I wont buy one.

Its a mid range that has a cost of a prosumer product that in the windows world would give you full capability with CPUs that arent the runts of the litter, proper thermal paste a decent thermal solution, not one fan that keeps everything cool... especially when the chassis has 40% free space.

Its beyond a joke and then the latest video that linus tech tips have dropped about the imac pro and the service issues is frankly appalling... charging 5k for a logic board... why would anyone do that? Not supplying logic boards without ram... although the ram isnt soldered, boggles the mind! People arent stupid, macs are still niche and not everyone is a walking idiot ready to drop 3k just because its a mac especially on a flawed product. There is traction in the tech world with a huge amount of negativity to the mac and atm I cant see this being remedied particularly quickly. They have gone too deep down this rabbit hole and the damage has been done for a lot of people.

The reckoning is coming. Apple cant get away with this bs forever and it very much feels like apple is the complete opposite to how it was in 2005 when I made the move.

Lots of angry people, but apple doesnt seem to care anymore... where has this culture come from?
 
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I can't see the iMac using the same Vega 56/64 as the iMac Pro, so I suspect whatever GPU the 2018 iMac - assuming there is one - gets hasn't been announced yet.
 
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check what's already out there in the market, there is virtually no 120Hz 4K displays because they are extremely expensive, its far more likely to be a true HDR display with 1000nits.

EDIT: it could also mean switching ti OLED ?
 
Maybe the new GTX 1180 will go in it...
If there's 0% chance of anything, it's that. Extremely small to null probability that they'll go with Nvidia again, absolutely zilch that they'll use a top-tier gaming GPU. This has never been the case on the iMac, and it never will.

If such kind of card is what you want/need, time for that "monster gaming rig" plan ;)
 
Probably no chance for an iMac update during summer now that we got the MBP update right? I guess waiting until October wouldn't be too bad, if they come up with something worthwhile.
 
Probably no chance for an iMac update during summer now that we got the MBP update right? I guess waiting until October wouldn't be too bad, if they come up with something worthwhile.
yeah, probably if it was prior to fall it would have been alongside the mbp's. It will likely be an underwhelming update just like these mbp's today.
 
Alright, MacBook Pro lineup gets the update finally. From that shall we expect iMac update soon also? Probably iMac will also get i9 cpu option.

Desktop Core i9 hasn't been announced/released yet. So we'll probably have to wait for Intel to get into gear. Which knowing Intel...
 
yeah, probably if it was prior to fall it would have been alongside the mbp's. It will likely be an underwhelming update just like these mbp's today.
Yeah, I’ve been waiting for so long now I’m really not sure what to do anymore... new 13 TB + 4k monitor or keep waiting for an iMac and buy whatever cheap MacBook replaces the MBA at some point.
 
With the new Macbook Pros and their TrueTone displays, I am willing to bet that what the rumor is referencing is an iMac with a TrueTone display. Which, frankly, doesn’t really matter much to me. My iPad Pro has TrueTone and, while I do leave it on, I really don’t see much of a benefit.
 
With the new Macbook Pros and their TrueTone displays, I am willing to bet that what the rumor is referencing is an iMac with a TrueTone display. Which, frankly, doesn’t really matter much to me. My iPad Pro has TrueTone and, while I do leave it on, I really don’t see much of a benefit.

I have to say I was positively surprised this time. Sure, I have my gripes about what I'd like to be improved, but it was at least mostly bringing the laptops to today's standards - other than the GPU and likely CPU throttling. Perhaps there is some hope for iMac after all.

For TrueTone, I quite like it when showing off my visual stuff. Not sure if I'd need that on iMac that is in a fixed location, though, and which would need to show the colors the same way each time. If one can disable it and lock the display, doesn't do much harm either, tho.
 
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Not sure if I'd need that on iMac that is in a fixed location, though, and which would need to show the colors the same way each time.
Well if you have a window near your iMac then the lighting changes as the day goes by. I don't own a device with True Tone so I can't really know but it seems like it could be nice to have on an iMac for my usage.
 
I have to say I was positively surprised this time. Sure, I have my gripes about what I'd like to be improved, but it was at least mostly bringing the laptops to today's standards - other than the GPU and likely CPU throttling. Perhaps there is some hope for iMac after all.

For TrueTone, I quite like it when showing off my visual stuff. Not sure if I'd need that on iMac that is in a fixed location, though, and which would need to show the colors the same way each time. If one can disable it and lock the display, doesn't do much harm either, tho.

Yeah. Doesn't hurt. It can be disabled if color accuracy is important. Which it is. So I would most likely end up leaving it off on a new iMac if I were you.
 
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I actually disable even the ambient light sensor on my 2017 5K, after calibration. The screen has to constantly set at sub 50% brightness to maintain greyscale uniformity. I am definitely not going to let a sensor arbitrarily determines my white point on the fly (which is what TrueTone is).

Of course for non-color-critical scenarios, TrueTone is a more intuitive / trouble free feature. But much more meaningful on MacBooks and iPads though, which goes through different light sources all day.
 
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If there's 0% chance of anything, it's that. Extremely small to null probability that they'll go with Nvidia again, absolutely zilch that they'll use a top-tier gaming GPU. This has never been the case on the iMac, and it never will.

If such kind of card is what you want/need, time for that "monster gaming rig" plan ;)
The last Nvidia Mac offered up to the 780M. Todays equivalent of that is (as the name indicates) the 1080/1180. A switch to Nvidia may be unlikely, but is always possible. Compared to Nvidia, AMDs cards are lacklustre in performance and their lineup is messy. I guess that's why Apple feels they are the perfect match.
 
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