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I honestly don't mind if they do not SHIP a new iMac this Thursday, as I am still in the position to wait a bit on my next purchase. What I really want is the NEWS. Will there be a new iMac? Will there be a new Mac Pro? What kind of specs can we expect? I just want to be able to make a an INFORMED decision when it comes to purchasing. This cloak and dagger bit was fun back in the old days, but IN the old days Apple was keeping up, or exceeding, the market specs. You've got seasoned professionals jumping off the bandwagon just because they do not know what Apples plans are, and this tight lipped BS does nothing more than rub salt in the wound. I am HEAVY into VR now. That fits MY definition of what a computer should/could do. If Apple does not agree with that assessment, I'd at least expect the courtesy of them letting me know. End rant.

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I honestly don't mind if they do not SHIP a new iMac this Thursday, as I am still in the position to wait a bit on my next purchase. What I really want is the NEWS. Will there be a new iMac? Will there be a new Mac Pro? What kind of specs can we expect? I just want to be able to make a an INFORMED decision when it comes to purchasing. This cloak and dagger bit was fun back in the old days, but IN the old days Apple was keeping up, or exceeding, the market specs. You've got seasoned professionals jumping off the bandwagon just because they do not know what Apples plans are, and this tight lipped BS does nothing more than rub salt in the wound. I am HEAVY into VR now. That fits MY definition of what a computer should/could do. If Apple does not agree with that assessment, I'd at least expect the courtesy of them letting me know. End rant.

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WRC

I think this is all well stated. The unknown was OK when Apple was making regular updates. Even now, you may not know what the next iPhone is going to look like or what specs it'll have, but you know there will be a new iPhone. It would be nice to have that from Apple with the Mac. OK, the iMac isn't ready. But just say at the keynote we're working on something great and it's not quite done. This goes double for Mac Pro people, although I assume most real professionals have probably moved on.
 
They just have to keep up, the current desktop macs are simply overpriced and underpowered.
I'd like to stay on macOS but i'd like also to pay the right price (or just a bit more) and have a proper machine for 2016 (see VR). Windows is still not good enough for my needs, but it isn't unacceptable like 10 years ago.
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I think this is all well stated. The unknown was OK when Apple was making regular updates. Even now, you may not know what the next iPhone is going to look like or what specs it'll have, but you know there will be a new iPhone. It would be nice to have that from Apple with the Mac. OK, the iMac isn't ready. But just say at the keynote we're working on something great and it's not quite done. This goes double for Mac Pro people, although I assume most real professionals have probably moved on.

if they say this, no one well informed will buy an expensive mac in the coming months.
 
They just have to keep up, the current desktop macs are simply overpriced and underpowered.
I'd like to stay on macOS but i'd like also to pay the right price (or just a bit more) and have a proper machine for 2016 (see VR). Windows is still not good enough for my needs, but it isn't unacceptable like 10 years ago.
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if they say this, no one well informed will buy an expensive mac in the coming months.

I could argue anyone well informed already would not buy one. They'd already know new ones are likely on the way.
 
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I could argue anyone well informed already would not buy one. They'd already know new ones are likely on the way.
But people are buying it, and the 5k iMac is fairly current on the component side of things (Skylake, decent dGPU). If Apple promised a much newer and better iMac is around the corner, sales would plummet.

Someone tried this years ago, Adam Osborne.
The phrase "Osborne Effect" is derived from the late 80's when a company called Osborne Computer Corp. introduced the first popular portable computer. Osborne made the mistake of pre-announcing a successor machine months before it could be delivered and sales of its existing line dried up sending the company into a tailspin it never recovered from.
 
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The larger does not: http://www.everymac.com/systems/by_year/macs-released-in-2015.html
The big holdup will likely be the Kaby Lake, and I've only heard of the mobile processors being delivered. I'm trying to find anything on the i7-7700k or lower which is what the kaby lake that could potentially be on the highest end iMacs...though I have my doubts given the 7700k is clocked faster than the 6700k and does not have a die shrink to deal with the power/heat.

I would be fine with a skylake and a much better video card for the 2016. I'd also be fine if I can upgrade my CPU after the fact, which has been done before. The key is I don't want to waste $ on today's current imac video card.
I'm with you man. A GPU upgrade would be nice but like you, I'd be happy with the 6700K Skylake with the base clock at 4.0-4.2. Wonder how much more efficient 7700K would be in terms of power and work compared to Skylake..
Maybe a new GPU is more beneficial to the whole computer more than a 7700K upgrade...who knows.

But I rather wish for a 7700K with turbo boost to 4.5GHz! :)
 
So, now the latest is that the new, updated iMac's will NOT be coming out this year, but early 2017. Anyone believe this?

I sure hope not, I have been holding off, like a lot of folks, waiting for updated machines but if nothing is released until early next year I will most likely pull the trigger on the 2015 model. Kind of a bummer if true.

So you are going to buy old tech at 2016 prices rather than be patient and wait? That doesn't sound like the musings of a wise man.
 
Given the prices rises on the phones and accessories following the iPhone 7 launch, I think there maybe a case for some to buy that 'older tech' at a much reduced price. I guess today you can get ~15% off a refurb, when we may see a ~15% price increase in Europe/UK due to currency/BrExit.
 
Still such a coin-flip on this one. iMac-compatible Kaby Lake seems imminent, and it's not unheard of for Apple to have first dibs on Intel's stuff. It seems quite likely they could announce this spec bump tomorrow and have it shipping by December à la the 2012 iMac launch.

I hope they don't though, because that MacBook Pro looks juicy and my wallet can't stomach both! :mad:
 
Now that Microsoft has released the iMac killer, I think the next gen of iMacs apple was going to announce tomorrow will be tossed in the dumpster. Anything less than a surface studio inspiring replacement will be humiliating for apple.
 
Now that Microsoft has released the iMac killer, I think the next gen of iMacs apple was going to announce tomorrow will be tossed in the dumpster. Anything less than a surface studio inspiring replacement will be humiliating for apple.
The Surface Studio is great. But if I had to choose today, I'd choose the iMac. Specs are similar, but what you are paying for is the amazing touch interface and the fact that it can be used as a massive drawing/CAD surface. That is very, very specialized. If I were an illustrator, I'd be all over it. But as a filmmaker, it's a thousand bucks on tech I would never use.

Also, I would want to wait for Kaby Lake with it's 4K enhanced encode/decode -- something that Apple may have wisely decided to wait for, along with an iMac redesign. So it's awesome the Surface Studio exists, but it is no iMac killer.
 
The Surface Studio is great. But if I had to choose today, I'd choose the iMac. Specs are similar, but what you are paying for is the amazing touch interface and the fact that it can be used as a massive drawing/CAD surface. That is very, very specialized. If I were an illustrator, I'd be all over it. But as a filmmaker, it's a thousand bucks on tech I would never use.

Also, I would want to wait for Kaby Lake with it's 4K enhanced encode/decode -- something that Apple may have wisely decided to wait for, along with an iMac redesign. So it's awesome the Surface Studio exists, but it is no iMac killer.
So, Apple is wise (all hail the great Leader) and will give to us, the filmmakers, Kaby Lake. This will make me working on my RED or URSA footage a bliss...
Filmmaker and iMac don't belong in the same sentence.
 
The Surface Studio is great. But if I had to choose today, I'd choose the iMac
I'd be in a quandry to be perfectly honest. I think there some things with the Studio that are great, but functionally, at least how I use computers, the iMac is a better fit, and the price is more conducive for my budget
 
I'm really crossing my fingers for a new iMac. My 2012 version has done me incredibly well thus far, but I'm in need of increased performance....At this point in time I'm not comfortable with spending £2k on last years spec machines...
 
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So, Apple is wise (all hail the great Leader) and will give to us, the filmmakers, Kaby Lake. This will make me working on my RED or URSA footage a bliss...
Filmmaker and iMac don't belong in the same sentence.
Really? I've made eight features, six of them edited on an iMac and/or Macbook Pro. The last was 4K Blackmagic. Worked like a charm.
 
For sure we're seeing new laptops, but I find it hard to believe that none of Apple's desktop lines would get an update today, and the Mac mini and Mac Pro crowds are a lot more pessimistic about this event than any of you are. If I had to choose between those two and the iMac, I'd choose the other two (sorry guys), but Apple's priority has been on the iMac for far too long not to headline it at a big Mac-centered event.
 
Whilst it will be annoying if there are no new iMacs, i will be happy if they at least show it off like they did with the Mac Pro and say this will be available in 3 months or what ever time frame. Whilst i know Apple are very much controlled by Intel's roadmap, it would be nice if Apple moved to some form of consistency. Everyone expects a new iPhone in September, why can they not do the same with other products. Spread the launch cycles out around the year. Even if Intel don't have another chip ready i'm sure Nvidia/AMD have new graphics , or SSD's have dropped in price so they can put bigger in for the same price, or RAM can be increased, or WiFi/Bluetooth standards will have been improved.
 
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