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People who don’t get App Library, probably doesn’t have that many apps installed. There is a big difference when you have hundreds, and only a few pages worth of apps.

Or they are ahead of the curve and have created their own organization system. Either way, the great middle is, as almost always, Apple’s target for this OPTIONAL FEATURE.
 
I have so many apps that’s organized in folders, but I still pull down search and type the first letter or two of what I’m looking for. I find that much quicker than going to another page, selecting a folder and then finding the app.

Widgets look interesting but I agree, what Apple showed off (especially the weather app) does not deserve that much real estate.

Not every step forward will be a big one, I’m not disappointed, but also not excited like the OP.
 
I'm just not sold on widgets and the app library.

I'm not sold on them enough to use them, and don't find them an especially good improvement over iOS the way that it was.

However, if the end result of it is an iOS that is more attractive to more people, then so be it. It's an option to have widgets, not a necessity, so...whatever....

:)
 
At risk of sounding dumb and repeating questions or statements possibly iterated hundreds of times already (sorry) - is iOS 14 still in beta stages? I seem to be up to date with 13.5.1....
 
At risk of sounding dumb and repeating questions or statements possibly iterated hundreds of times already (sorry) - is iOS 14 still in beta stages? I seem to be up to date with 13.5.1....

Yeah it in development beta at the moment and will be public beta in a couple of weeks. The actual rollout will be when the new iPhones arrive. :)
 
I changed my approach now - the homescreen is only 1 group of apps I actually use / care to know if there is a badge on the icon. Widgets are back to the legacy screen, they give me my “productivity view”. And then there is the Library. I am down to 3 screens, each having its own purpose. I love how clean it is without having to organize the icons. “type to search” has always been my how I find and launch apps both on MacOS and iOS, so there is no downside other than needing a nice background photo. When third party widgets actually work with 14, I’ll play with sticking them to the homescreen - I pretty much only need World Clock and Calendars 5.
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Thank you, first of all, for the compliment! I probably come across as tightly wound on here, so I could see how you might see me as an organizational nut. I am actually somewhat of a slob when it comes to app and file storage. I want to be organized, but its sooo much work!

Secondly, this widget/app drawer combo probably won’t do much for you, as you seem to have anticipated it with your own app access structure. That’s good, as you and Apple seem to view the structure you have as beneficial. It’s bad for you, as it removes one exciting feature from your bucket list.

Unless app drawer gets a lot more flexibility I will skip it.
The current structure was a result of T&E until I found something that works for me.
I will be watching it. btw - that is definitely not on my bucket list :cool:
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People who don’t get App Library, probably doesn’t have that many apps installed. There is a big difference when you have hundreds, and only a few pages worth of apps.

Or we have a lot installed, do not use 3/4 of the stock Apple apps, and dislike how iOS arranges/names things.
But I could be wrong.
 
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I also noticed a big storage drop after this update on my ipad 6th and 7th, not too happy about it so I reinstalled ios 13.5.1.
 
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People who don’t get App Library, probably doesn’t have that many apps installed. There is a big difference when you have hundreds, and only a few pages worth of apps.

I have a lot of apps on my iOS devices, and I already have them in folders - App Library lacks the customization that already exists. That's why App Library doesn't interest me - I prefer my sorting method to something created via an algorithm.
 
I also noticed a big storage drop after this update on my ipad 6th and 7th, not too happy about it so I reinstalled ios 13.5.1.
I’m betting that’s an early beta issue. They can optimize the file system as the OS progresses. Also, if the system is collecting a lot of log files that can clog up storage too (but that would take time post-install).
 
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Are your AirPods Pro on the latest software? And the devices on the new Beta? All under one iCloud account? It kinda just started working for me after updating, that’s all.
I have the normal AirPods, it says automatic switching is for all AirPods, only the spatial audio requires the pro version.
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Something new in iOS 14? ;)
Second time I have seen this when I “Liked” someone’s entry that contained a video.
Full screen “Confirm action”.
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That's very annoying, I'm not an idiot to be asked to confirm each time...
 
I have a lot of apps on my iOS devices, and I already have them in folders - App Library lacks the customization that already exists. That's why App Library doesn't interest me - I prefer my sorting method to something created via an algorithm.

Apart from the Suggested and Recently Added, the algorithm appears to be nothing more than the App Store categories for the apps. I agree that if that turns out to be correct, it's not necessarily a negative thing... and, as I have posted elsewhere, there is nothing that compels anyone to use the App Library... and it does provide some structure to the apps that each of us has chosen to install.

Nothing less and nothing more.
 
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App Library provides a canonical, coalesced list of installed apps.

This is why when you delete an app "shortcut" from the home screen, you then need to remove from App Library to really delete it. it's great.
 
App Library provides a canonical, coalesced list of installed apps.

This is why when you delete an app "shortcut" from the home screen, you then need to remove from App Library to really delete it. it's great.

Why is this great? If I delete it and didn’t want to I can reinstall. I’m not seeing a big win with this.
Not downplaying your statement, I just am not seeing the net positive.
 
I changed my approach now - the homescreen is only 1 group of apps I actually use / care to know if there is a badge on the icon. Widgets are back to the legacy screen, they give me my “productivity view”. And then there is the Library. I am down to 3 screens, each having its own purpose. I love how clean it is without having to organize the icons. “type to search” has always been my how I find and launch apps both on MacOS and iOS, so there is no downside other than needing a nice background photo. When third party widgets actually work with 14, I’ll play with sticking them to the homescreen - I pretty much only need World Clock and Calendars 5.
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Strange. I downloaded Calendars 5 and linked my accounts and I don't have the widget you're showing here.
 
I don't like the app library folders. But I do like that you can swipe down for the app list. If Apple gives a settings option to just have the app list show up, that would be perfect.
 
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You dont have to use neither App Library nor new widget placement - the old widget page is still there, and the App Library is hidden on the last (right side) screen.

I prefer the new widget logic - I can scroll horizontally (or within a widget stack) while still being able to access the Dock. What needs to happen now is app developers delivering new widgets - the old ones don’t move out of the legacy screen. I’d also like to see big widget stacks (these seem to be limited to 2x2 and 2x4) and full-home-screen widgets and stacks (ie ones taking the entire grid sans dock).

I will have to try it to see how it works. I'm assuming a widget stack is one or more widgets which you can group together, kind of like widgets inside a folder? And you can scroll between them but only horizontally? Interesting stuff, can't wait to check it out.
 
Why is this great? If I delete it and didn’t want to I can reinstall. I’m not seeing a big win with this.
Not downplaying your statement, I just am not seeing the net positive.

it’s just my view but I guess I really think it’s great that like on a Mac, one can install lots and lots of apps, hundreds.
Then whilst enjoying them in a single place if needed (app library / applications folder on Mac) one can also see only the main apps you choose to use on the dock (Mac) or homesceen (iOS).

a lot cleaner than pages and pages of randomly name folders or huge folders called “utilities”
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In fact, I’d go as far to say that hiding home screen feature is just a stepping stone for folks that fear change.

Once hidden they are never coming back. No one needs 5/6 pages of random apps.
It’s so much nicer to simply let app library hold it all.
Then drag out widgets and really important apps to be prominent on your screens.

just as on the Mac one doesn’t need to have 200 icons on the desktop. You let apps be installed in /user/local/bin or /Applications.

then only put important stuff in dock.

people are just resistant to change.

It took a little gumption but changing my home screen setup with this new paradigm has been so much more productive.
 
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it’s just my view but I guess I really think it’s great that like on a Mac, one can install lots and lots of apps, hundreds.
Then whilst enjoying them in a single place if needed (app library / applications folder on Mac) one can also see only the main apps you choose to use on the dock (Mac) or homesceen (iOS).

a lot cleaner than pages and pages of randomly name folders or huge folders called “utilities”
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In fact, I’d go as far to say that hiding home screen feature is just a stepping stone for folks that fear change.

Once hidden they are never coming back. No one needs 5/6 pages of random apps.
It’s so much nicer to simply let app library hold it all.
Then drag out widgets and really important apps to be prominent on your screens.

just as on the Mac one doesn’t need to have 200 icons on the desktop. You let apps be installed in /user/local/bin or /Applications.

then only put important stuff in dock.

people are just resistant to change.

It took a little gumption but changing my home screen setup with this new paradigm has been so much more productive.

Thanks for your thoughts on this.
I have my iOS setup which is very different from my Android setup - Android is my main phone. My MB has a large dock and I use launchpad a good bit with some folders on the main.

We (collective we) went through a similar stint on Android but the setup like you are discussing never really came about. I have a couple of widgets and daily apps on my Home screens and everything else in the main menu with a couple of initial folders The setup is very flexible. Android. Widgets never did get the massive use. The flexibility was the main. Even with the multitude of launchers in Android.

Right now I am not seeing flexibility from iOS. Somehow I suspect that Apple is not going to allow us a lot of flexibility when it comes to this new functionality. Sadly and hope I am very wrong.

Once again - thx for sharing.
 
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it’s just my view but I guess I really think it’s great that like on a Mac, one can install lots and lots of apps, hundreds.
Then whilst enjoying them in a single place if needed (app library / applications folder on Mac) one can also see only the main apps you choose to use on the dock (Mac) or homesceen (iOS).

a lot cleaner than pages and pages of randomly name folders or huge folders called “utilities”
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In fact, I’d go as far to say that hiding home screen feature is just a stepping stone for folks that fear change.

Once hidden they are never coming back. No one needs 5/6 pages of random apps.
It’s so much nicer to simply let app library hold it all.
Then drag out widgets and really important apps to be prominent on your screens.

just as on the Mac one doesn’t need to have 200 icons on the desktop. You let apps be installed in /user/local/bin or /Applications.

then only put important stuff in dock.

people are just resistant to change.

It took a little gumption but changing my home screen setup with this new paradigm has been so much more productive.

What is "much more productive" for you may actually be less productive for someone else though, since people have different needs when it comes to organization. If you organize apps on your own and use the existing folder options, you can still have no more than 1-2 pages of apps even with 200 apps installed.
 
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Strange. I downloaded Calendars 5 and linked my accounts and I don't have the widget you're showing here.

the calendar widget on my screenshots t is a native Calendar. Calendars 5 is not iOS 14 compatible yet. I prefer it though because it combines Reminders and Events.
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