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dsampley

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Thanks for the feedback. I checked on my iPhone and had carrier file 24.0. Once I updated to carrier file 24.1 on my iPhone, the iPad was able to make and receive calls while on AT&T LTE. Thanks again for the information.
 
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Chambersaj

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In theory since it works on WiFi and Cellular now when you walk away from a WiFi network the call should continue via the cellular connection. I haven't had a chance to try but that should be pretty cool. I'm hoping the next thing they enable is texting without needing to relay it through my iPhone.
 

boston04and07

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I'm hoping the next thing they enable is texting without needing to relay it through my iPhone.

Don't they have that already? I get SMS (non-iMessage) messages on my iPad and Mac when my iPhone is turned off. Unless that's controlled by iCloud and you're talking about a carrier setting?
 
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rijc99

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I am still not able to get calling to work on my iPad without wifi turned on.

Turn off allow call on other devices on your phone. Then turn it back on to re register your devices. It'll ask you if you want to allow calls when your phone is not near. Ok it. Enter the codes.

After all this, give it a minute to work.
 

techiegirl

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Turn off allow call on other devices on your phone. Then turn it back on to re register your devices. It'll ask you if you want to allow calls when your phone is not near. Ok it. Enter the codes.

After all this, give it a minute to work.

That worked. Thanks.

Too bad I can't have it ring on my Samsung Galaxy too.
 

Chambersaj

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Don't they have that already? I get SMS (non-iMessage) messages on my iPad and Mac when my iPhone is turned off. Unless that's controlled by iCloud and you're talking about a carrier setting?

It's through iCloud and your iPhone has to be on to send and receive the text messages. AT&T actually has a service similar to iMessage for their texting. I think they call it advanced texting or something like that and it only works on a couple android phones. You can see when someone is texting you back and such. Numbersync will allow text messages from other devices, I think it's limited to the android smart watches. There is some more work to be done on the software side before Apple can do the numbersync text messaging instead of the iCloud relay stuff. The LTE networks forcing the carriers to a mostly IP backbone has some cool features being enabled.
 
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boston04and07

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It's through iCloud and your iPhone has to be on to send and receive the text messages. AT&T actually has a service similar to iMessage for their texting. I think they call it advanced texting or something like that and it only works on a couple android phones. You can see when someone is texting you back and such. Numbersync will allow text messages from other devices, I think it's limited to the android smart watches. There is some more work to be done on the software side before Apple can do the numbersync text messaging instead of the iCloud relay stuff. The LTE networks forcing the carriers to a mostly IP backbone has some cool features being enabled.

Ah, gotcha! I never really thought about this before - I just sort of took it for granted that my SMS's were being forwarded since my iPhone is on 99.9% of the time, and most of my contacts are iMessagers anyway. That would indeed be a cool feature though.

It sure will be interesting to see what they have in store as this new framework gets refined. Personally what I want more than anything is easy access to voicemails on my other devices, now that I can easily make and receive calls from them. I get a ton of junk calls and do a lot of screening, which means that being able to easily listen to voicemails from anywhere is the last piece of the puzzle for me. If AT&T and Apple were able to conjure up a way to have visual voicemail access on my iPad and Mac, that would be amaaaaazing.
 
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Morac

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AT&T Numbersync worked very reliably under iOS 9.2.1, but since updating to iOS 9.3, I've twice had to reboot my iPad Air 2 to get Numbersync working again as my iPad refused to make or receive calls unless my iPhone was on the same Wifi network and said it was using the iPhone.

Rebooting the iPad fixed this. I've already tried turning Wifi calling and calls on other devices off on my iPhone and iPad and setting both up from scratch, but for some reason under iOS 9.3, my iPad Air 2 loses connection to AT&T's servers and doesn't re-establish a connection until rebooted.

What's odd is that I tested turning Wifi off and could make Numbersync calls over LTE and when I turned Wifi back on, it switched back to Wifi (verified by looking at router traffic).

Unfortunately there's no indicator if Numbersync is currently active other than looking at network traffic as both times Numbersync stopped working, it still showed as on.

All in all, it's a lot less reliable on the iPad. I don't know about the iPhone, but that works slightly differently.
 

gsmornot

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AT&T Numbersync worked very reliably under iOS 9.2.1, but since updating to iOS 9.3, I've twice had to reboot my iPad Air 2 to get Numbersync working again as my iPad refused to make or receive calls unless my iPhone was on the same Wifi network and said it was using the iPhone.

Rebooting the iPad fixed this. I've already tried turning Wifi calling and calls on other devices off on my iPhone and iPad and setting both up from scratch, but for some reason under iOS 9.3, my iPad Air 2 loses connection to AT&T's servers and doesn't re-establish a connection until rebooted.

What's odd is that I tested turning Wifi off and could make Numbersync calls over LTE and when I turned Wifi back on, it switched back to Wifi (verified by looking at router traffic).

Unfortunately there's no indicator if Numbersync is currently active other than looking at network traffic as both times Numbersync stopped working, it still showed as on.

All in all, it's a lot less reliable on the iPad. I don't know about the iPhone, but that works slightly differently.
I don't have an LTE iPad to test with but maybe you could open a chat with AT&T support and ask for them to remove NumberSync from your account. Go back after and setup new again and see if its more reliable. It might be something to do with the addition of LTE and your having the service prior. Might be a waste of time too but trying to guess what might help you get this going.
 

Morac

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I don't have an LTE iPad to test with but maybe you could open a chat with AT&T support and ask for them to remove NumberSync from your account. Go back after and setup new again and see if its more reliable. It might be something to do with the addition of LTE and your having the service prior. Might be a waste of time too but trying to guess what might help you get this going.

I could try, but it more seems like a bug in iOS 9.3 since restarting the iPad gets it working again.

The iPad normally keeps a constant SIP-TLS connection to an AT&T owned IP address so it can receive (and make) calls. When this happens that connection drops and and switches over to Continuity. It isn't re-established until I restart the iPad.
 

DotCom2

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Can someone tell me if I am understanding this correctly?
With this Numbersync thing, I can leave my iPhone at home and even turned off, and if I have say, an iPad mini, I can receive and make calls from the mini as long as I am on *ANY Wifi, and I can also be away from wifi but then the mini would have to be an LTE version?
And also, this is only for phone calls but not texts?
Is all the correct?
 

rijc99

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Can someone tell me if I am understanding this correctly?
With this Numbersync thing, I can leave my iPhone at home and even turned off, and if I have say, an iPad mini, I can receive and make calls from the mini as long as I am on *ANY Wifi, and I can also be away from wifi but then the mini would have to be an LTE version?
And also, this is only for phone calls but not texts?
Is all the correct?

That's how it works on my Mini 4 LTE and iPT6.

So, keep in mind, when you enable numbersync everything will ring when you receive a call and if others have access to your devices (i.e. Family shared tablet) they will be able to make calls and answer as if they were on your phone.
 
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rijc99

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OK thanks. But it's only phone calls right? Not texts?

If phone is off then texts won't go through. If phone is on (even if on LTE with wifi and bluetooth off) texts initiated from my iPod Touch 6 will go through. iMessage works regardless of phone's status as its kinda stand alone.
 
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DotCom2

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If phone is off then texts won't go through. If phone is on (even if on LTE with wifi and bluetooth off) texts initiated from my iPod Touch 6 will go through. iMessage works regardless of phone's status as its kinda stand alone.
OH KEWL! Thanks!
 

dsampley

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Jul 2, 2007
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I could try, but it more seems like a bug in iOS 9.3 since restarting the iPad gets it working again.

The iPad normally keeps a constant SIP-TLS connection to an AT&T owned IP address so it can receive (and make) calls. When this happens that connection drops and and switches over to Continuity. It isn't re-established until I restart the iPad.

I noticed this problem when I first upgraded to 9.3. What I found is if I waited for a few minutes after switching off wifi, number sync over LTE started working again.
 

clunkmess

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iOS 9.3 has also caused my Numbersync calling to cease working. My Mac and iPad keep using the iPhone to make calls. Hopefully 9.3.2 fixes this.
 

Morac

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I actually haven't had a problem with Numbersync since the few times I had a problem originally. I don't know why. The only difference is that I haven't taken my iPad anywhere since then so it's primarily been on my home Wifi. That said I did switch it to cellular a few times and it was still fine.
 

iphnhelp

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It seems like since 9.3 there is latency with phone calls. I did a test and it's about 4 seconds. I'm wondering if turning Numbersync off and just using WiFi calling will fix this as Numbersync is 9.3 only, right?
 
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