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MP 7,1 Nvidia’s RTX 3090/ 4090/ A6000/ 6000 Ada in a Mac Pro (2019)

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blackquartz said:
Looks beautiful, thanks! I will look to place an order as soon as possible! Im a 3D designer and modeler, and love mac os and my Mac Pro runs great, but this card opens a new frontier for my work!
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Do you known when we will be able to order a card ?
 
blackquartz

blackquartz

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MadJuju said:
Do you known when we will be able to order a card ?
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Mostly rumors, but second batch is supposedly coming mid October, which is great since AMDs, Big Navi seems around the corner as well, so its good to have a little Bit of extra time to see what happens
 
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smgfreak

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Today i installed the EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra GPU into my Mac Pro , there is much better Performance.

Compared
3090 FE = 2.2 Kilogramm Massive Build Quality looks very Stylish inside MacPro
3090 EVGA FTW3 Ultra = 1,8KG also Massive Build Quality but very Good AIR COOLING

3 x 8 PIN POWER Plugs = upto 470WATT Possible
Extreme Stable Overclock Possible
aRGB Light = can be complete Turned Off via X1 Software.
Max TEMPS under OC Full LOAD = 73 Celsius
No SAG

The EVGA is worth the Costs.
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MadJuju

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smgfreak said:
Today i installed the EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra GPU into my Mac Pro , there is much better Performance.

Compared
3090 FE = 2.2 Kilogramm Massive Build Quality looks very Stylish inside MacPro
3090 EVGA FTW3 Ultra = 1,8KG also Massive Build Quality but very Good AIR COOLING

3 x 8 PIN POWER Plugs = upto 470WATT Possible
Extreme Stable Overclock Possible
aRGB Light = can be complete Turned Off via X1 Software.
Max TEMPS under OC Full LOAD = 73 Celsius
No SAG

The EVGA is worth the Costs.
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How did you connect the power with 3 Pins ?
 
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RChav

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@smgfreak thanks for your various posts on the 3090s. Going to try out the FE myself when it arrives on Tuesday, but was curious if you had done any tests on various output video options? I'm curious how the RTX handles Thunderbolt 3 displays mainly, and if you had tried the built in ports for video outputs. With the AMD cards, there seems to be some rerouting support in both Windows and MacOS, so you can plug in a Thunderbolt 3 display into any available port (on the top of the case, the built in card, etc.).

Did any of these tests work for you?

Thanks!
 
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joevt

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RChav said:
I'm curious how the RTX handles Thunderbolt 3 displays mainly, and if you had tried the built in ports for video outputs.
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RTX doesn't have Thunderbolt so it won't work with Thunderbolt displays unless the display supports non-Thunderbolt connection (such as latest LG UltraFine 4K and 5K displays) or if you pipe the DisplayPort output of the GPU to DisplayPort input of Thunderbolt 3 add-in card.

RChav said:
With the AMD cards, there seems to be some rerouting support in both Windows and MacOS, so you can plug in a Thunderbolt 3 display into any available port (on the top of the case, the built in card, etc.).
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No. Only MPX cards have the connector that allows DisplayPort output from GPU to the two built-in Thunderbolt controllers in the Mac Pro (top and I/O card).
I suppose it could be possible for a third party to make an MPX slot adapter to allow a normal GPU to send DisplayPort to the Thunderbolt controllers so you wouldn't need to use a third party Thunderbolt 3 add-in card.
 
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IA64

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joevt said:
RTX doesn't have Thunderbolt so it won't work with Thunderbolt displays unless the display supports non-Thunderbolt connection (such as latest LG UltraFine 4K and 5K displays) or if you pipe the DisplayPort output of the GPU to DisplayPort input of Thunderbolt 3 add-in card.
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Ok so If I get an RTX 3090, will the Belkin Charge and Sync Cable for Huawei VR Glass theoretically XDR display?
 
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joevt

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IA64 said:
Ok so If I get an RTX 3090, will the Belkin Charge and Sync Cable for Huawei VR Glass theoretically XDR display?
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I believe so. People have used it successfully with RTX 2000 series cards.
 
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IA64

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joevt said:
I believe so. People have used it successfully with RTX 2000 series cards.
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One thing is that the RTX 2000 series have Virtuallink however there is no USB-C on the 3000 series which makes me wonder.
 
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joevt

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IA64 said:
One thing is that the RTX 2000 series have Virtuallink however there is no USB-C on the 3000 series which makes me wonder.
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The Belkin cable uses DisplayPort as the source - doesn't need Virtual Link. These cables work to allow 6K because the GPUs support DSC.
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I'm very much interested in this cable:
www.startech.com

6ft USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Cable 8K/4K - USB-C Display Adapters | Display & Video Adapters | StarTech.com

6.6 ft. (2 m) USB C to DisplayPort 1.4 Cable - Bidirectional - 8K 60Hz - Thunderbolt 3 - USB Type C Video Adapter Cable
www.startech.com www.startech.com
Hopefully this will eliminate all the headache with the Nvidia cards without sacrificing XDR control.
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flowrider said:
^^^^As I posted Waaaay back in Post #97, I'm running this cable with my Aorus RX5700XT to my LG UltraFine:

Monoprice Bidirectional USB Type-C to DisplayPort Cable - 4K@60Hz, Black, 6ft - Monoprice.com

No longer will you be limited by the direction of your cable! This Bidirectional USB-C? to DisplayPort? Cable allows you to connect your legacy DisplayPort devices to your newest USB-C enabled display
www.monoprice.com
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These cables don't give brightness control, presets, audio, camera, etc. because they do not have USB.
 
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^^^^I use Monitor Control to control brightness. With the Monoprice or Moshi cable I do not get a boot screen. LMK if you get a boot screen with the StarTech cable.

Lou
 
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IA64

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flowrider said:
^^^^I use Monitor Control to control brightness. With the Monoprice cable I do no get a boot screen. LMK if you get a boot screen with the StarTech cable.

Lou
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You can't install Monitor Control on Windows...
 
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^^^^No, but you can adjust it the MacOS and then move to Windoz. And, Brightness is something I usually don't play around with. Set it and forget it.

Lou
 
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RChav

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joevt said:
RTX doesn't have Thunderbolt so it won't work with Thunderbolt displays unless the display supports non-Thunderbolt connection (such as latest LG UltraFine 4K and 5K displays) or if you pipe the DisplayPort output of the GPU to DisplayPort input of Thunderbolt 3 add-in card.
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Hi @joevt, thanks for the reply. I've followed many of your technical posts in other forums re: add in cards and such, your advice is very helpful. I am trying to research a way to display Windows on my LG Ultrafine 4K (the new model which I believe supports USB-C alt mode) while retaining speakers/brightness control/usb hub on the monitor if possible. Would the Titan Ridge card + display port cable connected to a 2080/3080/3090 DisplayPort output and the Titan Ridge, along with a thunderbolt 3 cable from the Titan Ridge to display, allow me to achieve this?

joevt said:
No. Only MPX cards have the connector that allows DisplayPort output from GPU to the two built-in Thunderbolt controllers in the Mac Pro (top and I/O card).
I suppose it could be possible for a third party to make an MPX slot adapter to allow a normal GPU to send DisplayPort to the Thunderbolt controllers so you wouldn't need to use a third party Thunderbolt 3 add-in card.
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this would be awesome, though I doubt there'd be much demand for such a card. IMHO, rerouting video signal throughout the machine's available ports would be a massive enhancement for case design/options.
 
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joevt

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RChav said:
Hi @joevt, thanks for the reply. I've followed many of your technical posts in other forums re: add in cards and such, your advice is very helpful. I am trying to research a way to display Windows on my LG Ultrafine 4K (the new model which I believe supports USB-C alt mode) while retaining speakers/brightness control/usb hub on the monitor if possible. Would the Titan Ridge card + display port cable connected to a 2080/3080/3090 DisplayPort output and the Titan Ridge, along with a thunderbolt 3 cable from the Titan Ridge to display, allow me to achieve this?
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It might work if the Titan Ridge is flashed. The connection would be Thunderbolt instead of DisplayPort Alt Mode, so it may be problematic. Using DisplayPort Alt Mode with USB would have no issue. In Windows, you can install the Boot Camp drivers for brightness control. Normal USB audio drivers will work for audio.
 
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