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Grunze said:
Does anyone know if there is an optimal sitting distance from the screen of the 24"? When you buy a TV, the manual always reccomends sitting a certain distance from the TV, maybe to prevent eye problems, I don't know... any idea if this exists for the imac?
I don't think, as far as health, that your eyes care about the width, merely the distance TO the screen, so that wouldn't be any different for a 24". I believe the recommended distance for a computer display is arm's length, which is easy to achieve with any iMac.

Of course in practice, for convenience, you will sometimes sit back for an overview or lean in for a close-up. Those needs will be different for a computer than for a TV.

(And don't forget the big eye tip: look AWAY into the distance every so often--especially out a window. Vary what your eyes are doing.)
 
iKWICK7 said:
A question for all you 24"ers-

Is it "too big?" Does it take up too much room on your desk? Is it uncomfortable sitting in front of that thing all day?

I'm in the same situation.

At times, my 20" iMac seems too big / too wide.
However, I played with a 23" screen at the Apple shops a couple of times, and really enjoyed the space for demanding applications - to the point that I envisioned a Mac Pro with 23", although the financing was an issue.

Finally, I just ordered my iMac 24" online 5mn ago, and we'll see.

I guess some ergonomics rules are important, and I'll also keep my work centered when I don't need the full screen. Also, a dark background picture, instead of a very bright one, to avoid the too-much-light-effect / too-wide.
 
nagromme said:
I don't think, as far as health, that your eyes care about the width, merely the distance TO the screen, so that wouldn't be any different for a 24".

There is an issue with the muscles in your eyes, going from a corner to another too often, which will tire your eyes and give you headache.
The same with the depth of vision, as the point in the middle of the screen is closer than the point at the extreme corners - so that going from corner to middle also strains the muscles in your eyes.

But, as you say, looking far away once in a while (and walking) is a good method. I use a timer in dashboard.
 
whoot

Got home and opened the box... I dearly wanted to take pictures at each step... but ... I could not do it... got it up an running... what a beauty and the beast in one unit... very happy...
 
oh...my....

Just got my new 24" imac in! (2.33/7600 GT/500gig hd/2gig ram) I'm still in a little shock because the screen is so beautiful and a big improvement over the 17 inch computer screen i used before LOL! I'm so used to using towers that its hard to believe everything I need is in this one "screen". Ready to install bootcamp and play company of heroes tonight, and see how well it runs logic tommorrow.:D
 
Firmware & updates in new imac??

I recieved my intel core 2 duo imac 20" yesterday.. What beats me is that there wasn't any updates for it.. Nothing more than Front Row update and iTunes 7..
Strange!? I Thougt that i got the same tiger-installation and installation-desk as the previous core duo (that i made over 15 updates on the day i bought it)

Should i go looking for other updates elsewhere? Have you guys been doing any Firmware updates etc on the core 2 duo??

I must say that i find the fans in the computer a litte bit louder than the previous one.. (not much though)
 
sonarghost said:
oh...my....

Just got my new 24" imac in! (2.33/7600 GT/500gig hd/2gig ram) I'm still in a little shock because the screen is so beautiful and a big improvement over the 17 inch computer screen i used before LOL! I'm so used to using towers that its hard to believe everything I need is in this one "screen". Ready to install bootcamp and play company of heroes tonight, and see how well it runs logic tommorrow.:D

Any chance you could do some benchmarks which push the graphics card? Would be interested to see how performance is as I have the same machine arriving on the 20th!

Hopefully we will see a few porn sites this weekend, with the internals of the iMac displayed and taken apart. I'm really curious about the graphics card part.
 
my now out of date iMac, still nifty though!
 

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twoodcc said:
could you or someone use Handbrake to encode a dvd with H.264 (MP4 file) and under Avg. bitrate (kbps), make it 1500, and 2-pass encoding?

you don't have to do the whole DVD - just for about 5 min at least and see what the fps is.

thanks :)

If you really want to test you processing power first rip the DVD Video TS folder to the rad drive then run handbrake on that. My macbook (not pro) (2.0ghz 1gb ram) was getting between 50 and 60 fps. Your optical drive is now the weakest link.
 
Originally Posted by nagromme
17"x10.6"

Brought to you by Pythagoras and the letters A, B, and C

Funny my current 17" LCD (Samsung 712n) measures 13.5 x 10.6 the same heigh in the imacs 20". Hmm, I "barely " get 3.5" more of wide space... I might just go with the 24". I had a 19" CRT once, it was great.
 
mkubal said:
Thanks for the info. What are your graphics settings for the game?

I'm playing civ4 at whatever the standard settings are, I haven't changed anything. I am definitely a newb!:)
 
could someone with the 2.33 ghz C2D run the handbrake test that i posted earlier? (encode a dvd with H.264 (MP4 file) and under Avg. bitrate (kbps), make it 1500, and 2-pass encoding?)

just want to see if it's worth upgrading my Core Duo

thanks
 
Flyinace2000 said:
If you really want to test you processing power first rip the DVD Video TS folder to the rad drive then run handbrake on that. My macbook (not pro) (2.0ghz 1gb ram) was getting between 50 and 60 fps. Your optical drive is now the weakest link.

yeah i could do that, but that would take even longer
 
Can I ask if anyone in the UK has received a BTO 20" iMac yet? Mine got delayed from shipping on the 15th to shipping on the 21st and when I called up the only explanation they could give was that it must be to do with the parts. :(
 
I ordered my iMac the day it was announced.
I got the 20" with upgraded 256MB graphics and the 2.33GHz processor. It was supposed to ship on the 15th but hasent as of yet, but I havnt had any email letting me know of any delays.

I guess the UK gets everything last as usual.

edit: its just been changed to the 21st with a delivery date of the 25th, not impressed!
 
Can someone post some Benchmarks for a 20" 2.33 with 256mb X1600? I want to see how well it runs Half-Life 2 @ 1680 x 1050 :D
 
twoodcc said:
could someone with the 2.33 ghz C2D run the handbrake test that i posted earlier? (encode a dvd with H.264 (MP4 file) and under Avg. bitrate (kbps), make it 1500, and 2-pass encoding?)

just want to see if it's worth upgrading my Core Duo

thanks

I did just that last night with my 20" 2.33 C2D 2MB Ram

I queued 13 chapters from a DVD..

Avg. was around 26-30FPS.

Benchmarks :


CINEBENCH 9.5
****************************************************

Tester : peace

Processor : iMac Core 2 Duo
MHz : 2.33
Number of CPUs : 2
Operating System : 10.4.*.....sorry NDA

Graphics Card : ATI XT 1600 256M
Resolution :1680X1050
Color Depth : 32-Bit

****************************************************

Rendering (Single CPU): 386 CB-CPU
Rendering (Multiple CPU): 727 CB-CPU

Multiprocessor Speedup: 1.88

Shading (CINEMA 4D) : 470 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Software Lighting) : 1774 CB-GFX
Shading (OpenGL Hardware Lighting) : 3676 CB-GFX

OpenGL Speedup: 7.83

****************************************************

X-Bench :

Results 140.93
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.4.* (******)...sorry NDA
Physical RAM 2048 MB
Model iMac5,1
Drive Type WDC WD2500JS-40TGB0
CPU Test 121.31
GCD Loop 274.67 14.48 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 132.89 3.16 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 97.44 3.21 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 86.63 15.08 Mops/sec
Thread Test 230.79
Computation 211.56 4.29 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 253.85 10.92 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 132.13
System 134.91
Allocate 133.26 489.37 Kalloc/sec
Fill 132.74 6454.36 MB/sec
Copy 138.89 2868.68 MB/sec
Stream 129.47
Copy 120.30 2484.69 MB/sec
Scale 125.19 2586.48 MB/sec
Add 136.28 2903.09 MB/sec
Triad 137.81 2948.20 MB/sec
Quartz Graphics Test 148.30
Line 137.77 9.17 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 170.34 50.86 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 163.61 13.34 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 151.25 3.81 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 127.19 7.96 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 182.10
Spinning Squares 182.10 231.00 frames/sec
User Interface Test 382.35
Elements 382.35 1.75 Krefresh/sec
Disk Test 68.15
Sequential 96.62
Uncached Write 96.09 59.00 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 100.69 56.97 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 80.58 23.58 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 115.57 58.08 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 52.64
Uncached Write 20.29 2.15 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 122.37 39.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 89.54 0.63 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 135.71 25.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
 
Hey got two core 2 duo imacs in my basket just waiting for pay day to press the order button (about a week), just wondering:
Is there any teething problems?
Will i Find trouble with Rosetta as we are currently a PowerPc Household?
Are they fast? e.g will i notice a difference
And what's the difference between core duo and core 2 duo?
Is core 2 duo 64 BIT?
Here are the specs

2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512MB
160GB Serial ATA drive
Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X
17-inch TFT display
8x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
ATI Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB GDDR3 memory
AirPort Extreme
Bluetooth 2.0

And

2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
1GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x512MB
ATI Radeon X1600 with 128MB VRAM
250GB Serial ATA drive
Keyboard & Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X
20-inch TFT display
8x double-layer SuperDrive (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
ATI Radeon X1600 graphics with 128MB GDDR3 memory
AirPort Extreme
Bluetooth 2.0
 
Core 2 Duo is a whole new architecture: slightly faster, and 64-bit instead of 32-bit. Also, with Core 2, everything from laptops to servers now shares the SAME Intel architecture.

As for whether you will notice a difference... probably... what are you upgrading from?
 
nagromme said:
Core 2 Duo is a whole new architecture: slightly faster, and 64-bit instead of 32-bit. Also, with Core 2, everything from laptops to servers now shares the SAME Intel architecture.

As for whether you will notice a difference... probably... what are you upgrading from?

Well currently in our household we Have a ibook G4 which is mine and a powermac G4 which is mine,and an imac G5 Rev. A 1.8ghz which everyone else goes on
 
Hi everyone,
I am waiting for mine - 2.16, 2GB, 7600, 250GB
Arrival expected on Sep 27 - I had to cancel my "old" order for 20" CD, wait for money back, order 24" beast :D The good thing was that the 20" was about to be dispatched so I was lucky to cancel it just before it did... The AppleStore UK bloke was really helpful. Ta!
I can't wait to unwrap my new 24"! Well, 10 days of waiting are ahead of me, dammit ;)
Cheers,

M.
 
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