How likely is it LED displays will make a showing anytime soon?
Are LED displays on other laptops?
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How likely is it LED displays will make a showing anytime soon?
Are LED displays on other laptops?
EDIT : Found this
Sony, Fujitsu, Asus, that I've seen, though at least some of the models involved are only available in Asia.
However, the only ones I've seen have been on the smaller side -- 11-12", no 15" systems.
Oh my that laptop has a nearly 10 hour battery life due to the LED display! I want that..
A 10-12" subnotebook with a moderately good GPU and one of those ULV C2D chips with a battery life of like 5-6 hours will drive me nuts
I too am going to wait for a new MBP. Hopefully, the case design would have been refreshed by then. But then again, one should stay away from Rev 1 products.
It can't be as bad as the Rev 1 MBPs
Or as bad as the rev 1 MB's (went through no less than FOUR (4) Logic boards plus whining with that bad boy)
A 10-12" subnotebook with a moderately good GPU and one of those ULV C2D chips with a battery life of like 5-6 hours will drive me nuts
That'd be nice, tho' I think I'd take a 15" with a decent GPU and a regular CPU over that at this point. I must be getting old...
Wouldn't say not to a 1680x1050 screen res on the 15" tho' -- 17" is a little too big for my lap to comfortably hold. Plus, I'm sure there's a lot would looooove the 17" to hit 1920x1200 for some HD movie goodness...
I had a poke around the Sony site and Google but I couldn't find any mention of it. Would be nice if it is tho'.
On my googlin' travels, I did notice some sites mention rumors that both Apple and HP would intro LED backlights during 2Q07 tho' ...
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/01/samsungs-15-4-30-and-40-inch-led-backlit-lcds/
tells that there's 15" coming, but "262k colors" & "45% ntsc gamut" ?
tells that there's 15" coming, but "262k colors" & "45% ntsc gamut" ?
The 18bit color and 45% NTSC gamut are the same as current MBP displays, IIRC.
So, looks like the current display, but thinner, brighter and uses less power, I guess.
Edit: Nope, looks like it's 90% gamut for the current MBP -- at least for the AUO panel.
Edit 2: Looks like at least one AUO panel used WAS 45% gamut... Thought I'd read it somewhere...
You are right, so I went to Sony's Japan website and found out the AR's screen have the regular TFT, not LED. The S and G series however, have the LED screens.
Wrong link?
I'm loosing my powerbook, which I had from my emploer for project couple years ago, next monday.
If I would know if there's an update at WWDC, I could choose:
1) update comes = I'll wait for a month to get new model
2) no update = I'll get a current model next week
Normally this wouldn't be a major issue, because Apple has updated their laptops about twice a year. Now there will be more than year since last noticable update, so this time I think that Apple should loosen their principles and tell us something in advance.
PowerBook updates:
Jan 2001 G4
Oct 2001 GbE
Apr 2002 DVI
Nov 2002 cpu
Jan 2003 12"
Sep 2003 fw800
Jan 2005 cpu
Oct 2005 rez + dl-dvd
Jan 2006 intel
Apr 2006 17" intel
(ok, there has been no updates 2004 also...?)
It can't be as bad as the Rev 1 MBPs
Sorry, can't sympathize with that comment.
There are probably many 10-thousands of working Core Duo MacBook Pros out there with no problems.
Mine being one.
Yeah... that's what I get for posting so late...
Fixed it now.
You missed off the C2D update. I consider getting the ability to run 64bit code, and run code up to 100% faster (SSE improvements... ) to be significant enough to mention
They also speedbumpted when they got the C2D and included more RAM and slightly bigger HDs.
Too lazy to look up the date but it's approx 6 months ago...
Remember that ANY app that really pushes your CPU (which includes any of: uses vector math units, runs both cores, does heavy computation in a tight loop for more than a few seconds) is going to cause your MB to heat up and the fans to ROAR. That's just how it is. Getting a couple percent increase in clockspeed isn't going to buy you much, when what you really want is for your CPU to be running at 40% capacity to keep the system cool and quiet.
I didnt mean the speed literally. I meant the CPU speed. as in 2.0ghz or faster. Will those speeds be increased.
Only to 2.4 GHz topend compared to 2.33 GHz now. For general computing use it doesn't look like santa rosa is going to offer much of a performance boost for the MBP. If you're like me and need to have the latest and greatest then wait otherwise I would say pull the trigger now. Only other real change I see coming is the possibility of video cards.
Do you run 64bit code?You missed off the C2D update. I consider getting the ability to run 64bit code, and run code up to 100% faster (SSE improvements... ) to be significant enough to mention
I haven't had any need for that.
Maybe some software will be able to use those new SSE's in the future...
But when the computer has 32bit motherboard and memory limits, I wouldn't call it a real 64bit.
Reading that thread you gave link to us really made me think if I want mbp after all... 6bit display, banding problems, etc., ...
Now if they reduce the gamut to something like cheapest television in the 70s with white led backlight I will be sorry that I bought FinalCut...
Right now, I'd choose wide gamut ccfl even if it dims over the time and I don't understand why Apple wouldn't give option to choose the display (led or wide ccfl) BTO like they offer now matt or glossy panel.
I doubt you will see a redesign soon. They seem pretty content with the current design of the pro machines. The only thing I would like to see changed aesthetically is getting rid of the latch and going to a dimple like the MB but because the case is metal I think it would be too much trouble to try and get it to look good.
Well, in that case, there's no 64bit systems in existance, 'cause even the "64bit" processors usually only support ~40bits of address space
Beyond that, given few people have more than 2GB on systems that take more, I don't see that as an issue.
Do I run 64bit code? Which system?
(I'm a geek. I've owned a Digital Alpha box for almost a decade... got old Sun hardware too...)64bit registers, and twice as many of 'em, with support for said hardware expected in Leopard tho, yeah, I can go for that. If you want the pure consumer view as of right now (as opposed to the long term view), fair enough.
The SSE stuff is useful now. It's not "new SSE", it's "current SSE but up to twice as fast". The older systems had a 64bit path through the CPU to the (128bit wide) SSE units, so loading 128bit registers took 2 cycles. They doubled those paths to 128bit. So, it benefits code already written. I consider that a major win.
Didn't that MBP revision also add FW800? I know they improved the RAM and HD size, boosted the clock speeds, and I think they upped the write-speed on the DVDRW drive too...
6bit/color (ie 18bit/pixel) is what you get in laptops. Check the PC world. I don't want to say "all", but I've seen a lot of laptop panel specs in recent times, and they were all of the 18bit variety.
Having said that, you know the standard proviso with Rev A hardware from Apple -- it's only for the brave or the foolhardy
Hold your horses, old chap! You don't even know if Apple IS offering LED yet, nor what the specs for that panel are!
The 45% gamut stuff is for that particular panel, not an inherent limitation on LED. You can get more accurate color representation with LED than with CCFL, with quite a number of existing (and on sale right now) displays being specced at 110% NTSC. I've seen a Philips panels somewhere that was ~135% NTSC. However, better costs more.
The other advantages of LED are that it uses less power, it's lighter, it's thinner, it's more even, it's harder to break... For the majority of us, that's a win.
Remember tho', laptop displays are always a compromise between quality, weight and cost. C'est la vie.