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I don't think you'll have to worry about waiting till October for a MBP update. The timespan between revisions would be one month shy of a year, which is unheard of in the computer industry.

If anything I'd worry about Apple releasing a MBP update BEFORE SR and having to wait till November for SR notebooks.
that gives me hope...and makes me feel better. thanks for pointing that out.
 
Santa Rosa is Shipping

As it was stated before, the SR platform (Crestline chipset) is already shipping to manufacturers.

ArsTechnica said:
We are a few weeks away from the introduction of Intel’s Santa Rosa platform, so it isn’t really a surprise that the company spent some time on making sure that all the details about the new features are out there. It is not just a slight upgrade, but a major overhaul of the mobile platform that helps Intel to offer a fresh product until the introduction of the 45 nm Penryn processor - and have a chipset in place that can serve as reliable launchpad for Penryn as well.

The company is expected to introduce new Core 2 Duo T-series CPUs in May that will bring FSB800 processors, an improved graphics chipset (GM, PM, GL965), as well as a 802.11n chipset that has been announced back in January and is becoming available in notebooks these days. There are four new processors (T7100, T7300, T7500, T7700), all equipped with 4 MB L2 cache and ranging from 1.8 to 2.4 GHz in clock speed that will be shipping as part of the Santa Rosa platform. Part of the platform is also Turbo Memory, a flash cache technology that was previously code-named “Robson.”

According to Intel, Santa Rosa shipments already have begun: Santa Rosa accounts for one third of performance shipments in the current quarter; the share will climb to 50% in Q3 and exceed 80% in Q4. Around that timeframe, Intel will be getting ready to introduce the replacement for Merom core– the 45 nm Penryn CPU.

So, we will see a new MBP at WWDC at the latest (hopefully sometime next month).

Hickman
 
I will be buying a MBP in October when Penryn is out and all Macs are equipped with Leopard. Hopefully they release a more portable 13.3'' widescreen MBP between now and then.
 
Not gonna happen.

It actually can't happen. What are they gonna upgrade? The MBP already uses the fastest mobile CPUs available, and it's graphics card is a good combination of power at low power requirements. If it is upgraded without SR or a DX10 GPU, all we could hope for is really just a better screen, and a bigger HDD. Wait 2 months more, and Apple can bump the CPU speed a tad, shove in mad awesome GPUs, faster RAM with BTO up to 4 GB instead of 3, and internal flash memory.

Due to the amount of months it usually takes to update the Macbook Pro 7-10 I guess it is a good assumption that the line will be updated at WWDC but no one can be 100% that it will be especially when the iMac and Mac Mini have been so long overdue for an update, possibly because they too will be receiving the Santa Rosa chip sets but, for some reason I have a feeling the iMac and the Mac Mini will definitely see an update before the Macbooks and Macbook Pros, I can only hope that the Macbook Pros are updated soon after. Or maybe Apple will go nuts and update their whole line at WWDC with New Macbook Pros, new Mac Minis, and new iMacs. I am actually thinking of getting a mini as well as a Macbook Pro. :D
 
If they don't update the Macbook Pro soon, it really is going to start becoming a lot less "Pro".

Good point. Like everyone else I am waiting patently , yea right, for an update cause I can't wait to buy my first mac. But like I said, I don't think, especially that I head the iMac is Steves favorite Mac, that they'll update the Macbook Pro before the next iMac especially because it's around 50 days over due on the Buyer's Guide page. So if anything they will both be updated at the same time.
 
http://www.trustedreviews.com/notebooks/review/2007/04/17/Intel-Santa-Rosa-Revealed/p1

There's something to wet your whistle santa rosa fans. An insight as to what to expect if you're still left in the dark.

That's a great article and I recommend everyone read it to clear the air of ignorance. :cool:

Also, Apple likes to get in on the school buying season which starts in late April, so I'd say these updates aren't far off considering how long its been since a revision and the fact that review units for SR are arriving this week.
 
If the offical launch date is may 7..i doubt they can release anything using it until then. The shipped units are probably more for testing purposes than anything else.
 
Also, Apple likes to get in on the school buying season which starts in late April, so I'd say these updates aren't far off considering how long its been since a revision and the fact that review units for SR are arriving this week.

Yeah, I hope they update the MacBooks/Pros soon. I'm dying to buy my first Mac...
 
Even if the new Macbook Pros aren't announced at WWDC I am just gonna buy one cause this is way too long. If they are like, yea they are coming in September or October for sure. . . then I guess I will have to wait. I don't wanna get something when I know something better is so close away. We are all working off uncertainty right now, which is the worst part. If Apple would just let us know about things instead of being so secretive then it'd be an easy plan, but they probably wanna get rid of older machines so to let us know when new ones are coming out isn't really that good of an idea.

Yeah... Apple's lack of concrete info is a serious slap in the face to customers and potential cutomers. They need to release roadmaps & let people know what the fck is going on. They should know by now that casual buyers (ie. the iPhone demographic) are going to buy a computer whenever they feel like they need one. And only the nerds like us are going to hold another 2 months or whatever because of a new chipset.

Apple could keep 2 sets of people a lot happier if they kicked down some real info, instead of repeatedly 5h1tkicking their loyal supporters.

That line is going to break for a lot of people very soon, I feel.

Because when you don't know whether or not it's 2 months, or 12 months, and you're a first-time Mac buyer, getting a Centrino Pro Compaq (or whatever) is looking just as good. Vista is released. It's not XP, and that's all a lot of us really care about.

Apple should realize that a billion XP users are fed up and looking for a change. Either lay it out, or expect a lot of people's money going back into Intel/Microsoft configurations.

Apple's window is closing ridiculously fast.

It's all so annoying.
 
Yeah, I hope they update the MacBooks/Pros soon. I'm dying to buy my first Mac...

Im also waiting for the new updates so that i can purchase my first Mac...

So, do you guys think that the MBP's will be updated this june? I'm just wonderin' myself......
 
Im also waiting for the new updates so that i can purchase my first Mac...

So, do you guys think that the MBP's will be updated this june? I'm just wonderin' myself......

V. Good chance that MBP's will get a refresh in June.

In terms of the prices, it is expected that the prices of the MB and MBP will stay roughly the same for low, med and high models. Maybe plus or minus one or two hundred, but if it is more expensive, the hardware will reflect it.
 
After reading that article, there are two things that struck me. Firstly, X3100?? I thought it was called X3000! Have they changed the name because its a new version for mobile platforms, being different from the X3000 used for desktops?

And most importantly, I didn't know that Santa Rosa Meroms would use the speed boost active thingumijig that shuts down one core, and boosts the clock speed of the other up for single threaded apps! I thought that would be coming with Penryn! That's awesome!

So, if a doubling of clock speed means the core uses four times more power, and as the document says that when one is throttled up and the other is turned off the power usage is the same, what does that mean for the clock speed??? By my calculations, a 2.4 GHz Merom core will get a boost to 3.4 GHz for single thread apps!!! That's insane!

Ah well, thx for this link, it's boosted my opinion of Santa Rosa a lot, and it was already high to begin with. Now I really, really want a SR MBP : (
 
Will the new MBs and MBPs include the Intel Turbo Cache flash RAM on their motherboards? Along with the better integrated GPU this seems to be the biggest upgrade, but I think it's optional...
 
Will the new MBs and MBPs include the Intel Turbo Cache flash RAM on their motherboards? Along with the better integrated GPU this seems to be the biggest upgrade, but I think it's optional...

I'm pretty sure I read a rumour somewhere that Apple would not be using Turbo Memory. But then again, this is Apple we're talking about, and they seem to like letting out BS just so they can surprise us. Also, why wouldn't Apple use it? It increases speed, and increases battery life. That's like Apple's design philosophy in a nutshell.

I feel confident we'll see TM in MBPs and most likely MBs too.
 
It increases speed, and increases battery life. That's like Apple's design philosophy in a nutshell.

It's designed for Vista though. DLL hell etc etc. By caching all the small (i.e. where seek time>read time) regularly paged system files onto flash you get a benefit because of the way Vista works.

Now - Apple will be designing it's own motherboards and they may or maynot decide to include turbo-flash in it. If they do, perhaps they will find a use for it (hibernating perhaps?) - but OSX is such a different animal to Vista that the reson d'etre for Turboflash in the WinTel arena doesn't transfer immediately to the Apple world.

Doug
 
And most importantly, I didn't know that Santa Rosa Meroms would use the speed boost active thingumijig that shuts down one core, and boosts the clock speed of the other up for single threaded apps! I thought that would be coming with Penryn! That's awesome!

From reading that article, im not sure if the Merom revision will have that technology as the article is just about the SR platform release in general. Perhaps the author is talking about the penryn but didnt specifically state it.
 
And most importantly, I didn't know that Santa Rosa Meroms would use the speed boost active thingumijig that shuts down one core, and boosts the clock speed of the other up for single threaded apps! I thought that would be coming with Penryn! That's awesome!

So, if a doubling of clock speed means the core uses four times more power, and as the document says that when one is throttled up and the other is turned off the power usage is the same, what does that mean for the clock speed??? By my calculations, a 2.4 GHz Merom core will get a boost to 3.4 GHz for single thread apps!!! That's insane!

Ah well, thx for this link, it's boosted my opinion of Santa Rosa a lot, and it was already high to begin with. Now I really, really want a SR MBP : (

YYYEEEEAAAA!!! If that is true the wait for SR is definitely well worth it!!! Tha sounds amazing! :eek:
 
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