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MRU

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I'm curious: do *you* really care about Android updates, other than security patches? You seem to swap out phones as often as I do and I don't give a lick about Android phones being updated as a result. I agree the OEM's should be better about it in general because that demonstrates a commitment to their customers, but personally? Makes zero difference to me. If I buy something now, I know I"m on to a new thing come fall anyway.
From a logic point of view you are absolutely correct it shouldn't bother me .... But for some reason it does which doesn't make sense given at most I am with a device what ? Six months ....
 
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Tig Bitties

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I agree.
3300mAh on an Android phone isn't anything to write home about.
Would be fine on an iOS phone.
I wonder if Google will ever make whatever changes are necessary to make Android as battery efficient as iOS?
I think in my past experience it seemed like Googles own apps/services drained the battery the most. They should be able to do something about it, if they wanted to.


Agree. I have been buying Android smartphones since 2009. Have owned dozens of flagships over the years, and yes the chipsets and processors and modems have gotten way more efficient and battery friendly. But...even today in 2017 a 3,300mAh battery is just ok for Android phones, it's not bad, nor great. This iPlus 5, I mean OnePlus 5 will just give ok average battery life, as MRU already pointed out, reviewers saying no way it will even get 6h SOT, which sucks IMO.

Looks like a nice phone, but I'll pass spending $500 on it.
 

Roadstar

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Don't need to come to Ireland. (G6 isn't available here without importing)

https://www.eglobalcentral.eu/#/product/20538

Oh wow, some nice prices on the S8 dual SIM as well. I'm just a little bit concerned about possible warranty issues when ordering through these sites, but maybe I'd need to check their terms. Too bad that my moving to Ireland plan was busted, I liked the country when I was there :D
 
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MRU

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Oh wow, some nice prices on the S8 dual SIM as well. I'm just a little bit concerned about possible warranty issues when ordering through these sites, but maybe I'd need to check their terms. Too bad that my moving to Ireland plan was busted, I liked the country when I was there :D
Yeah warranty issue will be a problem when buying a HK device. That's always a big downside. I wish more companies offered international warranty service.

I bought the S8 & G6 from Amazon UK to make sure I got EU warranty.

Both Finland & Norway are on my Bucket list of places to go and photograph. :) Now I have the whole of the Camino de Santiago out of the way, next year I'll work my way through Scandanavia.
 
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From a logic point of view you are absolutely correct it shouldn't bother me .... But for some reason it does which doesn't make sense given at most I am with a device what ? Six months ....

Well, even though I'm also going through phones at quite a pace, I do care about updates. That's partly due to the fact that quite often my family gets hand-me-down phones from me and I'd feel bad about giving them obsolete devices. However, if at least security updates keep coming, that's at least a step in the right direction.
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Both Finland & Norway are on my Bucket list of places to go and photograph. :) Now I have the whole of the Camino de Santiago out of the way, next year I'll work my way through Scandanavia.

Welcome :) Drop a line if you want to have a pint in Helsinki or somewhere in the region :)
 
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From a logic point of view you are absolutely correct it shouldn't bother me .... But for some reason it does which doesn't make sense given at most I am with a device what ? Six months ....

I think I get it. If I were buying this phone, I'd want the 8gb model even though the 6 is of course way more than enough. Why? I always want the most, the best of a thing. Speedy updates is part of that.

Maybe? I dunno. What I do know is that I'm getting obsessed with this to the point I'm thinking of hopping over to ATT for a spell. :O
 
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spriter

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What happened with dx0 mark? Didn't watch the so-called live event but was expecting a flurry of info and their 'review'.

Also see they have Marques as a guest at the NYC pop up.
 

Truefan31

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not sure. a cursory look at the specs says that it has 3 of the 4 LTE bands for Verizon, but it's missing Band 13 which is a pretty critical LTE band (the 700 MHz band). It seems to have B0 of CDMA which I think would be 1x (2G), so it could potentially fall back to that in a poor LTE area. BUT, it's up to Verizon to work get the bands the phone does have running on it's network. The HTC U11, for instance, has band 4 but is currently not able to access it on Verizon's network HTC is working with Verizon to get band 4 (XLTE band) up and running on the U11.

Bands (OnePlus 5)
FDD LTE: Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/25/26/28/29/30/66
TDD LTE: Band 38/39/40/41
TD-SCDMA: Band 34/39
UMTS(WCDMA): Band 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO: BC0
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz

Verizon network bands/frequencies: wiki

that's a bummer then, band 13 is pretty important for a lot of people.
 
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Portrait mode looks poor in some of those.

And for ex Digi Rev fans, here's Kai's take:


Seems like a good all round phone yet I don't feel compelled to buy.
 

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I think I get it. If I were buying this phone, I'd want the 8gb model even though the 6 is of course way more than enough. Why? I always want the most, the best of a thing. Speedy updates is part of that.

Maybe? I dunno. What I do know is that I'm getting obsessed with this to the point I'm thinking of hopping over to ATT for a spell. :O

I think it is quite expensive at about $500 when you can get the S8 for 100+ more.
This phone should be using the same 1080 OLED panel as oppo r9s/r11. I have the r9s+ and I can tell you it is quite inferior to the S8 screen in terms of clarity and sharpness.
 

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While I didn't have my 128gb 3T Midnight Black for long (sold it to a friend) I did really like it, it cost me £429 I think... But for £499 the OP5 is only £100 less than a 32gb iPhone 7...
 

MRU

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While I didn't have my 128gb 3T Midnight Black for long (sold it to a friend) I did really like it, it cost me £429 I think... But for £499 the OP5 is only £100 less than a 32gb iPhone 7...
Well here the iphone 7+ 128gb is €1029

At €559 for the 128gb OnePlus 5 - it is only fractionally over half the price.

Even the standard iPhone 7 32gb is €779 & 128gb is €889 compared to €499 for the 64gb OnePlus 5 meaning it's still €280 - 390 cheaper.

Of course most iPhone users especially in Europe still get their devices directly from carriers and subsided so comparing RRP is a little misleading.
 

JaySoul

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You guys either have really expensive OnePlus phones or stupidly cheap S8s :D Even with the projected price increases, an S8 is close to 300 euros more over here.

Well, the OnePlus 5 is £450 and that's exactly how much I paid for my S8!

Admittedly I bagged a real bargain at the time but still.

They did well on the price, though, I'm recommending this phone to people for sure!

Camera looks a bit variable but reckon they'll improve it over next 3 months through software update.

Also the battery will be fine. The dude in the presentation is right, some people are getting way too hung up on specs alone without looking at the overall picture. Everyone I know with a 3 or 3T never once complained about battery life.

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While I didn't have my 128gb 3T Midnight Black for long (sold it to a friend) I did really like it, it cost me £429 I think... But for £499 the OP5 is only £100 less than a 32gb iPhone 7...

Sorry but this makes no sense to me, a more relevant comparison would be:

OnePlus 5 - 5.5" screen, 128gb etc... £499.

iPhone 7 Plus - 5.5" screen, 128gb etc... £819.

That's a difference of £320.
 
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c0ppo

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I see a lot of complaints about OP3/T not utilising more RAM ? :)

Well, I hate to break it to you guys, but that was true for a few weeks after the launch. After the update, 6GB of RAM did wonders to me and my multitasking. And even without that update, you could still use all 6GB without any issues with a really small and simple fix from xda.

I am sure that OP5 will use those 6GB from the start. OP3/T proved to be best Android device when it came to holding apps in background. And not just by a small margin, but with a really great margin. And I am sure OP5 will do the same.

But saying that, I am rather sceptical about 8GB version. I have nothing against adding more RAM, but 8GB is a overkill, and if they allow all of 8GB to be used, then the battery life won't be so great. So I do consider 8GB to be a complete marketing gimmick.

But the thing that interested me the most is UFS2.1 dual channel storage. Read/Write speeds on OP5 are insane, even when compared to current flagships. So faster installs, faster app loading times, and faster swapping (if this is even needed on a 6/8GB phone).

2 have been already ordered, but not by me, but by my friends. I will first see how they feel in my hand, and if they aren't to slippery (sigh, iPhone 6 design...), I will order one ASAP. OP3/T was and is the best Android device I have ever used. So I will order OP5, but only if it doesn't feel in the hand as iPhone 6/6s/7.

I also expect that with a few updates, this device will get better and better. OnePlus did a great job on OP3/T updates, they really do listen to their customers. Vibration motor proves that, and that was my main complaint with OnePlus devices overall. Now that has been fixed, I just hope that they can improve on camera with updates as well.
 
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MRU

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I see a lot of complaints about OP3/T not utilising more RAM ? :)

Well, I hate to break it to you guys, but that was true for a few weeks after the launch. After the update, 6GB of RAM did wonders to me and my multitasking. And even without that update, you could still use all 6GB without any issues with a really small and simple fix from xda.

I am sure that OP5 will use those 6GB from the start. OP3/T proved to be best Android device when it came to holding apps in background. And not just by a small margin, but with a really great margin. And I am sure OP5 will do the same.

But saying that, I am rather sceptical about 8GB version. I have nothing against adding more RAM, but 8GB is a overkill, and if they allow all of 8GB to be used, then the battery life won't be so great. So I do consider 8GB to be a complete marketing gimmick.

I am just toying with maybe going for the regular 5 6gb and save €60 as I don't really need 128gb storage and 64 would be enough. I do think 8gb maybe overkill.

How many apps can you hold in the background on the OP3T. Would I get my 14 or so regular apps (facebook / dialer / messages / messenger / play newstand / play music / youtube / tapaptalk / calendar / gallery / photos etc ...
 

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I am just toying with maybe going for the regular 5 6gb and save €60 as I don't really need 128gb storage and 64 would be enough. I do think 8gb maybe overkill.

How many apps can you hold in the background on the OP3T. Would I get my 14 or so regular apps (facebook / dialer / messages / messenger / play newstand / play music / youtube / tapaptalk / calendar / gallery / photos etc ...

Besides facebook & messanger, I use almost all the same apps as you. But I would add just audible, whats app, sofa score and a couple of small utility apps. And all of those run on my OP3T without refreshing. About 15-18 apps. No games. And even after a couple of days there will be no refresh at all.

That is why I love my OP3T so much. Without refreshing apps, this thing is the fastest phone out there. OP5 is a little bit faster, at least so the reviews say. I will probably update, but still want to check out the phone in person, because I have 'iphonephobia', the most slipperiest device I have ever used :)
 
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Besides facebook & messanger, I use almost all the same apps as you. But I would add just audible, whats app, sofa score and a couple of small utility apps. And all of those run on my OP3T without refreshing. About 15-18 apps. No games. And even after a couple of days there will be no refresh at all.

That is why I love my OP3T so much. Without refreshing apps, this thing is the fastest phone out there. OP5 is a little bit faster, at least so the reviews say. I will probably update, but still want to check out the phone in person, because I have 'iphonephobia', the most slipperiest device I have ever used :)

That sounds perfect and my idea of how things should work. I think I'll go with the 6gb ram version.
 
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c0ppo

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That sounds perfect and my idea of how things should work. I think I'll go with the 6gb ram version.

If I purchase OP5 (who am I kidding, I probably will...), I'm going for 6GB version as well. 64GB is enough for me, and paying extra for more storage I don't really need, and more RAM I can't really use... Well, makes no sense. So 64GB it is :)
 
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I think it is quite expensive at about $500 when you can get the S8 for 100+ more.
This phone should be using the same 1080 OLED panel as oppo r9s/r11. I have the r9s+ and I can tell you it is quite inferior to the S8 screen in terms of clarity and sharpness.

I place a premium on speed and fluidity. S8's are good but as I've used my Plus it has slowed down over the course of a couple of months, and it's not like Sammy's stuff is Road Runner out of the box to begin with. From that vantage point I think the OP5 is a great value.

All of the reviews I've seen thus far have said the screen is good to excellent.
 
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8GB RAM version let's you install iMessage, iTunes and Facetime.

True story.
 
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I place a premium on speed and fluidity. S8's are good but as I've used my Plus it has slowed down over the course of a couple of months, and it's not like Sammy's stuff is Road Runner out of the box to begin with. From that vantage point I think the OP5 is a great value.

All of the reviews I've seen thus far have said the screen is good to excellent.

Ok. Imo, for most purposes, I don't there is a significant difference in performance between the two.

So the decision I think is mainly about paying a bit more for the s8 design, better screen, water proofing and wireless charging. Also don't forget Samsung included a good pair of akg head phonesas well.
 

c0ppo

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I envy you guys who get to attend those 'pop-up' events. If there was one near me, I would be there already :)
 

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Seems like at least some people are interested in this phone, there's a longish line for the Helsinki pop-up even though there's more than 1,5 hours before the sales start.

And yes, I'm one of the idiots in the line

At the moment, here in Amsterdam (Netherlands) at the One Plus Pop Up Store there about 30/40 people in line. Store opens in about 3 hours from now.

I just saw Flossy Carter's first video (unboxing), now I am in doubt again (I turned from ''want one'' to ''nahhh...nevermind'') to pick one up here at the Pop Up store... I live about 10 minutes from that Store.

hmmm decisions...decisions ;)
 

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This might end up being a wet queueing experience...
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