Phones OnePlus Three ( 2016 )

[MRU]

I still don't see the lying and misconception here. No one said 6gb of RAM was going to allow you to put 100 apps in memory. And he gave a logical explanation. No one forced a single one of us to buy it. I didn't buy it for the 6gb of RAM. I would have got it with 4.
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Of course there is a lie. If you advertise a device as 6gb then a consumer has every right to expect to be able to use it.

They were not told the device has 6gb ram with only 3gb user accessible which is closer to the truth here.

If you honestly can not see how this is miss leading the consumer then there is no point debating this any further.

 

[nviz22]

The OnePlus forums are already full of very angry OnePlus owners calling them out and making these kind of jokes.

Never go the Pei Wei because it is surely to fail lol. One Plus deserves it with their Don Mattrick esque comments.

 

[Wildo6882]

Of course there is a lie. If you advertise a device as 6gb then a consumer has every right to expect to be able to use it.

They were not told the device has 6gb ram with only 3gb user accessible which is closer to the truth here.

If you honestly can not see how this is miss leading the consumer then there is no point debating this any further.

Of course we can. I don't see it as a lie. You think it is and I don't. We can disagree and still be friends.

I just think most of us should reserve judgment until we see it and use it ourselves. It may affect some people. And it may not affect others.

 

[AppleRobert]

Of course we can. I don't see it as a lie. You think it is and I don't. We can disagree and still be friends.

I just think most of us should reserve judgment until we see it and use it ourselves. It may affect some people. And it may not affect others.

If I can grab a smartphone that I'm interested in off a retailer shelf I would jump at the opportunity to judge it. Not having any hands on with one and dealing with a return which isn't hard but not as easy as throwing a stone to do it leaves me missing out on some. But that is my general rule of thumb especially when I have my doubts about it versus the other flagships currently available.

 

[jamezr]

Has anyone received theirs yet? Care to share your thoughts

 

[Surf Donkey]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review

Unfortunately, the display really kills the phone for me. Based on every other aspect I think it would be a no-brainer to replace the Nexus 5X with the OnePlus 3 as my daily driver, even if it is bigger than I'd like. I simply can't though, because I just feel unpleasant whenever I look at the OnePlus 3's display. I don't think it's a stretch to say it's the worst display I've examined during my time at AnandTech, as despite the Nexus 6's faults it didn't have the ghastly blue appearance of the OnePlus 3.

ouch. Haven't seen other reviews knock the display this bad. Wonder if it was a bad device?

Edit: Nope, just budget AMOLED. Should have gone with LCD

In the saturation sweep test, the OnePlus 3 performs even more poorly than the OnePlus 2. You can tell from the gamut that they’re actually targeting NTSC, which makes me feel like I’ve been sent back in a time machine to 2010 where this was the problem with AMOLED displays on smartphones like the Nexus One and the original Galaxy S. I really thought that we had moved past this, past the point where AMOLED phones would ship with nonsensical gamut targets that you can’t change, but clearly I was wrong.

 

[MRU]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/10411/the-oneplus-3-review



ouch. Haven't seen other reviews knock the display this bad. Wonder if it was a bad device?

Edit: Nope, just budget AMOLED. Should have gone with LCD

Will be interesting to see what Erica Griffin says when she does her full review, she's a stickler for screen calibration.

 

[jamezr]

Will be interesting to see what Erica Griffin says when she does her full review, she's a stickler for screen calibration.

I wonder if a software update can fix this? Maybe another OS like CM13 would produce better results? Or is it hardware related to the screen itself?

The Anandtech review is the first one I have seen that calls out the screen in a negative light like that. Citing it was hard to look at at one point. MBKHD and others say the display looks great?

Maybe Anandtech got a bad unit? Not sure....

 

[MRU]

I wonder if a software update can fix this? Maybe another OS like CM13 would produce better results? Or is it hardware related to the screen itself?

It could be either. I know during her initial unboxing / impressions she did note there was colour banding issues. So could be calibration, it could just be a cheap diamond matrix pentile ambled panel (even if it is manufactured by Samsung).

 

[jamezr]

It could be either. I know during her initial unboxing / impressions she did note there was colour banding issues. So could be calibration, it could just be a cheap diamond matrix pentile ambled panel (even if it is manufactured by Samsung).

hmmmm...thanks MRU. I will wait to hear more reviews before I chance it. Most of the reviews didn't say anything negative about the display until Anandtech. But if that is true and the whole ram fiasco....I might just stay away from the OPO3

 

[Surf Donkey]

It could be either. I know during her initial unboxing / impressions she did note there was colour banding issues. So could be calibration, it could just be a cheap diamond matrix pentile ambled panel (even if it is manufactured by Samsung).

Yeah according to the Anadtech review, they are going to put in RGB mode with a fix update. But that might not be enough to make up for the hardware.

AA wasn't hot on it either (and for some reason deleted this article):
http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...-hit-wonder-699173/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=sg

And the display? It’s a SAMOLED with some software and hardware modifications that OnePlus has decided to brand “Optic AMOLED“. More free media coverage due to the simple situation that the technology sounds like more than it is. The greatest irony of all, of course, being that Pei himself has openly spoken about the “secret” and making it quite clear that Samsung is supplying the screen.

Truth be told, however, the phone hasn’t even been official for a week yet and the Internet is already thrashing it. Some of the charges lobbed at the device? The display is a paltry Full HD (1920 X 1080) in resolution, something befitting of a flagship from 2013.

At the time of posting, over 20% of respondents have issues with the lack of a QHD display,

Even the company’s motto, “Never Settle” seems to be an oxymoron, as many apparently feel the OnePlus 2, OnePlus X, and now the OnePlus 3 as well, are just that: settling for second-best, or second-rate specs. That some spec comparisons have shown it performing significantly worse than rivals – with the same SoC and less RAM – only reinforce this.

What a black eye, because with the "RAM fix" the 3 performs just about the same as the S7.

 

[spriter]

If it is the rule rather than the exception then the bluey screen isn't surprising - it costs significantly less than the competition for a reason.

A bluey AMOLED was the first thing I noticed when I had a Nexus 6 a few months ago. Dramatic difference compared to the current screen on the S7.

Still, I guess not everyone will notice it or be that concerned due to price. Easy to say you get what you pay for but it's often true.

 

[Surf Donkey]

If it is the rule rather than the exception then the bluey screen isn't surprising - it costs significantly less than the competition for a reason.

A bluey AMOLED was the first thing I noticed when I had a Nexus 6 a few months ago. Dramatic difference compared to the current screen on the S7.

Still, I guess not everyone will notice it or be that concerned due to price. Easy to say you get what you pay for but it's often true.

True. But Nexus 5X is even less with a very nicely calibrated LCD screen. As many reviewers are saying, "Never Settle"..... printed right there on every phone. Shrugging off things like this for the price sure feels like settling. It is a confusing message.

 

[jamezr]

If it is the rule rather than the exception then the bluey screen isn't surprising - it costs significantly less than the competition for a reason.

A bluey AMOLED was the first thing I noticed when I had a Nexus 6 a few months ago. Dramatic difference compared to the current screen on the S7.

Still, I guess not everyone will notice it or be that concerned due to price. Easy to say you get what you pay for but it's often true.

Yep...considering what it costs...it seems to be not a bad phone. Flagship killer...well no way. Some of the screen calibration and ram issues can be fixed with software updates. But you can't fix cheap hardware

 

[GigabitEthernet]

This would appear to be OnePlus' year of refinement: less boasting, more innovation.

 

[AppleRobert]

Yep...considering what it costs...it seems to be not a bad phone. Flagship killer...well no way. Some of the screen calibration and ram issues can be fixed with software updates. But you can't fix cheap hardware

What about battery life given it is 1080p?

Too many concessions at this point, if the above things you wrote are fixed with software updates then they are lessened. And what about the camera (makes me no never mind), you folks have a handle on its quality?

Glad I did not pull trigger on day 1.

 

[MRU]

This would appear to be OnePlus' year of refinement: less boasting, more innovation.

Where have they innovated ?

 

[c0ppo]

Where have they innovated ?

Removing invitations = innovation ?

 

[MRU]

With the ram fix ... This is what/how it should be by default ...

 

[Surf Donkey]

Carl Pei responds to Anadtech's review on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/4oyi6o/anandtechs_oneplus_3_review/d4hrn6c

I'm sick and tired of sentiment like this. It may not seem so, but for a product company -- it's insulting.

It started with the OnePlus One, people trying to find explanations and faults that could have led to its reasonable price. People were complaining about screen variance (visible and common for LCDs, search for "iPhone yellow blue screen" images), vibration motor, and cheaper NAND, etc. Looking for any explanation, and quick to jump on bandwagons and to conclusions.

With our relationships in the supply chain, we know the BOM (bill of materials) of all other flagships. Out of all the devices that the OnePlus 3 gets compared to, it is one of, if not the most expensive to make. Do you think the price delta between a 2K AMOLED and a 1080p AMOLED is huge? It's a product decision, and spec by spec is not how to judge a product. The OnePlus 3 uses latest generation AMOLED made to our specifications by Samsung. The vast majority of our users, and reviewers love Optic AMOLED. It is NOT tuned to sRGB, and was never meant to be. sRGB tuning is a niche requirement and is not the right choice for the vast majority of smartphone users. Why do you think it's hidden under developer settings on the 6P? For those who need it, we've taken note, and have added it to the next OTA.

On the other hand, I get it. People simplify and use mental shortcuts to make sense of the world around them. Price = quality. We probably haven't done good enough of a job explaining our model, and we need to work on this going forward. I understand that sometimes, when our products don't have the highest absolute specs, it might look like corners are cut. This happens when people don't understand the product reasoning that went behind a choice. When we see this, we'll be increasingly vigilant about educating people. Over time, we hope that more people can understand our product philosophy of placing experience above specs. Product management is an art and not throwing together the highest specs. If that's what you're looking for, OnePlus is the wrong brand for you. This is also why I'm not the least worried about new device x or y that may have better specs, because I know it will not fare as well as the OnePlus 3 on the most important spec of them all: NPS.

Before finishing this rant, I want to make things really clear. There are no corners cut on the product, and there will never be. OnePlus cuts corners on business model (direct to consumer), org structure (nimble and fast team), and marketing (organic word of mouth focused).

 

[MRU]

A video comparing the Moto G Plus with the OP3

What's surprising is the G actually loads not only all its apps out of Ram without issue, it actually loads some of the bigger apps quicker initially too.

This is why software optimisation is so important.

 

[GigabitEthernet]

Where have they innovated ?

I was being ironic.

 

[jamezr]

With the ram fix ... This is what/how it should be by default ...

i think OPO3 can be fixed with a software update. I think it's no different than say the HTC 10 getting some of its rough edges smoothed out from software updates after the initial release.

 

[MRU]

i think OPO3 can be fixed with a software update. I think it's no different than say the HTC 10 getting some of its rough edges smoothed out from software updates after the initial release.

The question is with OnePlus will they fix it ? Carl Pei's pride may get in the way and he may insist they stick to their stance. Likewise even if he does back down and incorporate a fix with it taking 9 months to get Marshmallow update to Oxygen OS, how speedy will a fix update come ? We know it should be a simple fix for them ...

It's in this area of support murkiness which has always been a weak point of OnePlus which has only gotten worse after they fell out with Cyanogenmod Team ...

OnePlus main areas of weakness has always been caused primarily by OnePlus the company and not necessarily the hardware.

 

[jamezr]

The question is with OnePlus will they fix it ? Carl Pei's pride may get in the way and he may insist they stick to their stance. Likewise even if he does back down and incorporate a fix with it taking 9 months to get Marshmallow update to Oxygen OS, how speedy will a fix update come ? We know it should be a simple fix for them ...

It's in this area of support murkiness which has always been a weak point of OnePlus which has only gotten worse after they fell out with Cyanogenmod Team ...

OnePlus main areas of weakness has always been caused primarily by OnePlus the company and not necessarily the hardware.

That is the i million dollar question. OPO really seems to be an arrogant firm from the top down. They can fix the issues with the OPO3 very easily with a software update.....but if they won't even acknowledge their is a problem....then it does not bode well for a timely update to fix things!