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c0ppo

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It is pretty appealing actually. Used a lot of phones, but build quality on this one is simply awesome. Easily comparable to iPhone or samsung flagship phones. Just that this one costs more then half the price. Fast, couldn't notice any lag. Actually, lot faster then my brothers Note 4.

Camera is ok, but nothing to brag about. Only real issue I have with this phone is SD Card bug that will be sorted out soon by an update.
 

Alphazoid

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Dec 5, 2014
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My invite vanished just as i was checking out and is no longer in my account. Oh well, guess i wasn't meant to buy one.
 

joshwithachance

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The lack of band 12 or 17 (for use on T-Mobile or AT&T LTE) is a complete deal breaker. T-Mobile will be exclusively band 12 in the future, and AT&T relies heavily on band 17 as it's their 700MHz frequency for indoor use.
 

LukinLedbetter

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Mar 13, 2014
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I've been a "grass is greener" guy when it comes to smartphones for the past few years but ultimately decided iOS/iPhone meets more of my needs than Android. But that hasn't kept me from keeping a keen eye on Android phones. Well, when I received my invite this morning for the Oneplus X I decided to jump on it. For $250, to have a good, almost stock Android phone in my possession to satisfy my Android tweaking curiosities was just too good to pass up. Hopefully it ships out before too long.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
12,699
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Austin, TX
I've been a "grass is greener" guy when it comes to smartphones for the past few years but ultimately decided iOS/iPhone meets more of my needs than Android. But that hasn't kept me from keeping a keen eye on Android phones. Well, when I received my invite this morning for the Oneplus X I decided to jump on it. For $250, to have a good, almost stock Android phone in my possession to satisfy my Android tweaking curiosities was just too good to pass up. Hopefully it ships out before too long.
It looks like an awesome phone, but isn't there some banding issues on the thing?
 

LukinLedbetter

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Mar 13, 2014
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It looks like an awesome phone, but isn't there some banding issues on the thing?

I believe bands 12 & 17 are missing, which may impact you in the US in certain markets. I'm in a city in the US with pretty extensive LTE coverage, but for this phone I doubt I'll even use LTE.
 

Neverbepeace

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Jan 14, 2009
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New York
Definitely got on board and ordered this beauty. They definitely nailed it on the design front.
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LukinLedbetter

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Ok, so I got the X delivered yesterday and thought I'd post my initial impressions. Keep in mind that I bought this as my android tinker phone as the iPhone 6s is my daily driver.

  • Build quality is fantastic. It's thin, light, classy and impressive for any price point.
  • The AMOLED screen is really fantastic and makes me wish my 6s had one instead of LCD
  • The 801 is a bit slow when compared to other current android flagships, but not bad.
  • OxygenOS is ok but I've already switched to Nova for theming and tweaks.
  • Camera isn't bad. I'd say it's on par with the 2014 Moto X. Maybe a bit better.
I can't comment on battery yet nor call quality or audio quality. Will add more thoughts in the near future. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend someone buying this though based on early impressions.
 

Alphazoid

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Mines shipped, hopefully arrives today. Has the 801 really regressed that much. It was the staple of the Android world only a few months ago. Sure its still better than the SD 410. The culprit is probably the Adreno 330 which is waaay long in the tooth. Should've gone with the Adreno 420.

It really is a re-skinned OPO, even the benchmarks recognise it as an OPO
 

LukinLedbetter

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Mar 13, 2014
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Mines shipped, hopefully arrives today. Has the 801 really regressed that much. It was the staple of the Android world only a few months ago. Sure its still better than the SD 410. The culprit is probably the Adreno 330 which is waaay long in the tooth. Should've gone with the Adreno 420.

It really is a re-skinned OPO, even the benchmarks recognise it as an OPO
That's a fair point about the cpu vs gpu. It may be the Adreno 330 that's making the X feel a little less snappy than other flagships.
 

nj-morris

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Nov 30, 2014
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Mines shipped, hopefully arrives today. Has the 801 really regressed that much. It was the staple of the Android world only a few months ago. Sure its still better than the SD 410. The culprit is probably the Adreno 330 which is waaay long in the tooth. Should've gone with the Adreno 420.

It really is a re-skinned OPO, even the benchmarks recognise it as an OPO

I still stand by what I said, putting the 801 was a huge mistake. Phones like the OPO, HTC One M8 and the GS5 will lose Android support soon, and the OPX will go with them. However, if they had put the 617, it would last at least another year, maybe even two, and battery life would be better.
 

Alphazoid

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Agreed but that wasn't gonna happen. SD 617 means they'd have to rehash Oxygen OS for it. Rather than just copy/pasting the OPO codeset.
 

nj-morris

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Agreed but that wasn't gonna happen. SD 617 means they'd have to rehash Oxygen OS for it. Rather than just copy/pasting the OPO codeset.

Doubt that was the reason. I don't think that the versions of Oxygen are the same on the One and the X. Even so, if wouldn't be much effort to make tweaks for the different processor.
I'm pretty sure they used the 801 because they had loads of leftover from the One.
 

c0ppo

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They used it coz it's cheap, and still pretty powerful. And I love that they have chosen s801, coz s801 is perfect for battery, doesn't heat up, etc.
Marshmallow update is all OPX is gonna need anyway. Even if they went for s617, I doubt they would have updated OPX for Android 7.0

And I find OPX pretty damn good. Better then 99% of Android phones I have tried so far. And I have tried almost every one of them :)
 

Neverbepeace

macrumors 6502a
Jan 14, 2009
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New York
They used it coz it's cheap, and still pretty powerful. And I love that they have chosen s801, coz s801 is perfect for battery, doesn't heat up, etc.
Marshmallow update is all OPX is gonna need anyway. Even if they went for s617, I doubt they would have updated OPX for Android 7.0

And I find OPX pretty damn good. Better then 99% of Android phones I have tried so far. And I have tried almost every one of them :)

While we are still reviewing the Oneplus X, the device is dam good so far....very impressed.

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nj-morris

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They used it coz it's cheap, and still pretty powerful. And I love that they have chosen s801, coz s801 is perfect for battery, doesn't heat up, etc.
Marshmallow update is all OPX is gonna need anyway. Even if they went for s617, I doubt they would have updated OPX for Android 7.0

And I find OPX pretty damn good. Better then 99% of Android phones I have tried so far. And I have tried almost every one of them :)

The original Moto G, which is 2 years old, and has a Snapdragon 400 chip, has 5.1 on it, the same version as the vast majority of high-end phones released within the last couple of years. Mid-range and entry-level processors have compromises, but longevity isn't one of them. 617 phones will last as long, if not longer than 810 phones, let alone 801 phones.
As for power consumption, all of the 800 series processors use about as much power. Same with all the 600 series, all the 400 series, etc. But one of the points of lower end processors is that it decreases performance, but also decreases power consumption. The 617 would save up on power.
 

c0ppo

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The original Moto G, which is 2 years old, and has a Snapdragon 400 chip, has 5.1 on it, the same version as the vast majority of high-end phones released within the last couple of years. Mid-range and entry-level processors have compromises, but longevity isn't one of them. 617 phones will last as long, if not longer than 810 phones, let alone 801 phones.
As for power consumption, all of the 800 series processors use about as much power. Same with all the 600 series, all the 400 series, etc. But one of the points of lower end processors is that it decreases performance, but also decreases power consumption. The 617 would save up on power.

S617 can't compare to s801 when it comes to standby time. Not by a long shot. Now, how will it compare in other scenarios? I honestly don't know.
And s801 isn't a mid/low range processor. It is a flagship processor. Last year tech for sure, but underpowered? Maybe. If you plan on using your phone as a part of a render farm ;)

I found 0 lags on my OPX. Nothing.
Installed some games just to test it out, and OPX didn't even notice those while I was playing.

I simply don't see why you think that s801 is such a bad choice? Does it lag? Nope. Can you do everything that s810 can do? Yup. Is there real world noticable difference between the two? I can't find one. Except that s801 doesn't throttle like s810 does, and it doesn't heat up. I found OPX way more better phone then OPT. No lags, phone doesn't heat up (and it's completely made of glass!), and the screen is way better.

And this is a cheap phone. Premium built, premium design, works flawlessly. Now, if they were selling this phone for 500€, I would jump on 'critics' train and be all over them. But I simply can't find not even a single phone in this price range that offers everything OPX does. Of course, you can always find one example where some phone has better battery, other has better camera, etc. But in a single package?

I can't find one. If you can, please point me in the right direction :)
 

nj-morris

macrumors 68000
Nov 30, 2014
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UK
S617 can't compare to s801 when it comes to standby time. Not by a long shot. Now, how will it compare in other scenarios? I honestly don't know.
And s801 isn't a mid/low range processor. It is a flagship processor. Last year tech for sure, but underpowered? Maybe. If you plan on using your phone as a part of a render farm ;)

I found 0 lags on my OPX. Nothing.
Installed some games just to test it out, and OPX didn't even notice those while I was playing.

I simply don't see why you think that s801 is such a bad choice? Does it lag? Nope. Can you do everything that s810 can do? Yup. Is there real world noticable difference between the two? I can't find one. Except that s801 doesn't throttle like s810 does, and it doesn't heat up. I found OPX way more better phone then OPT. No lags, phone doesn't heat up (and it's completely made of glass!), and the screen is way better.

And this is a cheap phone. Premium built, premium design, works flawlessly. Now, if they were selling this phone for 500€, I would jump on 'critics' train and be all over them. But I simply can't find not even a single phone in this price range that offers everything OPX does. Of course, you can always find one example where some phone has better battery, other has better camera, etc. But in a single package?

I can't find one. If you can, please point me in the right direction :)

I think that you misunderstood me. I don't disagree with any of your statements. I didn't say that the 801 was underpowered or mid-range. I didn't give lag as a reason. My point was that putting the Snapdragon 615, a chip with the power of the 801 in a much smaller and efficient package, would be a better desicion than the 801 in pretty much every way. As I say, it would be more efficient. I'm not sure about real-world tests, but theoretically the battery life would be longer. And my main reason, as I said in the above two posts, is longevity. The Snapdragon 801 is reaching the end of its cycle, while the 617 has only just started its.
 

c0ppo

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Theoretically yes. But it isn't, since there are numerous reports that s615 also overheats like his bigger and stronger brother s810. You can google that up if you are interested. I would be happier if they managed to squeeze in s805 for the same price, but I will take s801 over s615 any day. Lets just agree to disagree? :)
 
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