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Operation Chokehold
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Stoooooopid idea.
You'd get more done by gathering a pyramid petition and having everyone sign and email to ATT.
You'd get more done by gathering a pyramid petition and having everyone sign and email to ATT.
Companies (including Apple) learn the hard way. It is called PR. Petitions do squat.
So you're going to hurt other AT&T users to prove a point to AT&T? Smart...
I think the point of Operation Chokehold is flying completely over your head. I suggest you go and read fsj article again.
Bringing the network down on its knees will exponentially increase the number of complaints AT&T will be receiving on that day. THIS is a statement. The fact that customers who actually care are signaling their malcontent in a strong way and calling AT&T out IS what operation chokehold is about.
The "innocent users" as you call them might experience degraded quality of service on that day but hey, they have chosen to put up with a crappy network and pay a sh*t load of money and just accepting that this is "how things are". No, they are not how things are and not how things should be.
Anyone who thinks that this tech demo will hurt innocent users and won't matter to AT&T know very little about how teleco companies operate and what do they care about. The very fact that they have issued a statement regarding operation chokehold is quite telling.
Just my opinion, of course, but if you look through these forums you'll find the people who have problems with AT&T are a minority. A rather vocal minority, but a minority all the same. Of course, there's also the ones who think Verizon is the answer to everything. Anyway, there are a lot of people who have no problems with AT&T.
My prediction: operation chokehold = failure.
IF it were successful all it would show is what most of us already know about the limitations of wireless technology.
So far, 27 people have said they'll take part. How are these 27 people going to bring the network to it's knees? They couldn't do that even if they were operating out of the same city. With them spread all around the country, it won't even be a blip on the radar.
Sorry, I have better things to do with my time than waste it.
This is a juvenial joke. Nothing will happen other than a bunch of teenagers thinking they're screwing the man. My girl friend's dutch oven is more likely to bring my to me knees.
Hopefully my being on an airplane tomorrow at noon and having my iphone switched off will offset at least one of the immature children taking part in this silly little game.
Honestly kids, do you really think you are doing any good? If nothing else, you are only further encouraging AT&T to cap, throttle, or limit your bandwidth usage by proving to them that the heavy bandwidth usage is a risk to their business model.
There are better ways to get results, such as emailing, calling, and writing to Apple, AT&T, your local newspaper, etc.
Honestly kids, do you really think you are doing any good? If nothing else, you are only further encouraging AT&T to cap, throttle, or limit your bandwidth usage by proving to them that the heavy bandwidth usage is a risk to their business model.
There are better ways to get results, such as emailing, calling, and writing to Apple, AT&T, your local newspaper, etc.
Do this if you want ATT to charge more for data!
DUH!!!! This is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a while...more like
"Operation lets-get-ATT-to-charge-more-for-data" This will surely make ATT consider capping data and charge outrageous "overdraft" fees for going above the limit. AAACCK!! Who was the idiot that thought of this operation chokehold plan in the first place?
Didn't you see the news article on this website about tiered data? Click on the iphone tab above and read it!
Ugh! I'll be on the road tomorrow driving a considerable distance and I would like to know that my service will be working in the case of an emergency...good Lord, sometimes people on here just don't make any sense!
No...I won't be participating and I hope all other users won't either.
DUH!!!! This is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a while...more like
"Operation lets-get-ATT-to-charge-more-for-data" This will surely make ATT consider capping data and charge outrageous "overdraft" fees for going above the limit. AAACCK!! Who was the idiot that thought of this operation chokehold plan in the first place?
Didn't you see the news article on this website about tiered data? Click on the iphone tab above and read it!
Ugh! I'll be on the road tomorrow driving a considerable distance and I would like to know that my service will be working in the case of an emergency...good Lord, sometimes people on here just don't make any sense!
No...I won't be participating and I hope all other users won't either.
Here is why this plan isn't logical and thought out and quite frankly stupid:
1) You DO NOT have an inalienable right to unlimited data on AT&T's network - they own it, they maintain it, all you do is pay for a right to use a piece of it (the piece they determine you are allowed to use by the price you pay). A simple analogy is this - if you pay $100 for a night at a hotel room - that $100 gets you only the amenities the hotel determines you get and that you agree to by paying you $100.
In other words - your privileges to data on AT&T's network solely arise out of the agreement you have with AT&T.
2) If AT&T were to implement either tiered pricing or data caps on existing users, such change would be a contract modification which would require acceptance by both parties - this means that were such a change initiated any user would be able to cancel their contract without a termination fee.
3) No plans for pricing have been announced so a complaint (protest is simply not the right word to use) is a bit premature - this plan is the equivalent of ordering the entire menu at restaurant as a protest that the food is bad, without ever tasting the food - in the end you still have to pay for the food and the restaurant will still be in operation and simply will not see point.
This leads to the most important point of all this - business don't care about you beyond getting you to pay them for services. They are not your parents and throwing a tantrum because you are unhappy about a new rule will not work unless you hit their pocketbook which you can only do if the new rule is implemented and you can escape you contract obligation free.
1) You DO NOT have an inalienable right to unlimited data on AT&T's network - they own it, they maintain it, all you do is pay for a right to use a piece of it (the piece they determine you are allowed to use by the price you pay). A simple analogy is this - if you pay $100 for a night at a hotel room - that $100 gets you only the amenities the hotel determines you get and that you agree to by paying you $100.
In other words - your privileges to data on AT&T's network solely arise out of the agreement you have with AT&T.
2) If AT&T were to implement either tiered pricing or data caps on existing users, such change would be a contract modification which would require acceptance by both parties - this means that were such a change initiated any user would be able to cancel their contract without a termination fee.
3) No plans for pricing have been announced so a complaint (protest is simply not the right word to use) is a bit premature - this plan is the equivalent of ordering the entire menu at restaurant as a protest that the food is bad, without ever tasting the food - in the end you still have to pay for the food and the restaurant will still be in operation and simply will not see point.
This leads to the most important point of all this - business don't care about you beyond getting you to pay them for services. They are not your parents and throwing a tantrum because you are unhappy about a new rule will not work unless you hit their pocketbook which you can only do if the new rule is implemented and you can escape you contract obligation free.
This reminds me of the self-proclaimed "anarchist" at the recent G20 summit in Pittsburgh. All they ended up doing was disrupting the community and damaging property.
Hoe on earth are these figures true??? I've seen them before and perhaps they're accurate, It's just hard to imagine that such a small group is using so much data. What in the world are these people doing on their phones???? It must be from tethering, no??
If that's the case then tiered pricing should absolutely be put into affect.
I bet you're one of the kids that lie on the floor in the mall while kicking and screaming your heads off when your mom didn't buy that candy for you. It's sad what people has come to nowadays with their way on how to get their message across. What's next, throw pipe bombs at every ATT store on Saturday?
Did Operation Chokehold start already...
...or is something up with the 3G network in the Financial District in SF? I haven't been able to pull up a webpage or download mail for the past 30 minutes, keep getting "cannot establish connection" messages. Edge works, albeit slowly.
...or is something up with the 3G network in the Financial District in SF? I haven't been able to pull up a webpage or download mail for the past 30 minutes, keep getting "cannot establish connection" messages. Edge works, albeit slowly.
Operation Chokefold is not going to affect anything. There's probably a problem with a tower.
Operation Chokehold: Why should you join in?
After browsing the posts here its quite clear that many of us dont quite understand the purpose of Operation Chokehold.
AT&T CEO Ralph de la Vega reportedly told attendees at a communications conference in New York that the network was planning to introduce a tiered pricing model to charge heavy data users. Forty percent of AT&Ts 3G bandwidth is consumed by 3 percent of Smartphone users..."
- http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=8429
Given the amount of applications downloaded from the app store, we can assume that iPhone users are among the 3 percent stated above.
Plain and simple, Ralph de la Vega wants you to change the way you use your iPhone. The purpose of Operation Chokehold is to show AT&T that we as iPhone users dont want to be any more restricted than we already are. True, Operation Chokehold may not bring AT&T to their knees, but they will see irregular data usage and thats enough to prove a point.
So, between 12 and 1 PM PST today Ill be listening to Pandora over 3G.
After browsing the posts here its quite clear that many of us dont quite understand the purpose of Operation Chokehold.
AT&T CEO Ralph de la Vega reportedly told attendees at a communications conference in New York that the network was planning to introduce a tiered pricing model to charge heavy data users. Forty percent of AT&Ts 3G bandwidth is consumed by 3 percent of Smartphone users..."
- http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=8429
Given the amount of applications downloaded from the app store, we can assume that iPhone users are among the 3 percent stated above.
Plain and simple, Ralph de la Vega wants you to change the way you use your iPhone. The purpose of Operation Chokehold is to show AT&T that we as iPhone users dont want to be any more restricted than we already are. True, Operation Chokehold may not bring AT&T to their knees, but they will see irregular data usage and thats enough to prove a point.
So, between 12 and 1 PM PST today Ill be listening to Pandora over 3G.
