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Gnattu

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Interestingly The current Build of Windows won't let me install Office 64 bit. Says I can't run 64 bit apps. I thought that they said that this build was the first one to have support for 64 bit. But it does not seem like it.
Are you on Build 21277? 64bit emulation does not present until build 21277.
By the way, isn't there a arm64 native office on Windows?
 

ArPe

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Up and running. Windows runs very well and barely stresses the M1.

The built in Windows tools such as Calender, News, Weather just crash. Apps like Edge and Geekbench run fine.

Will test Steam on the weekend.
 
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Gnattu

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The built in Windows tools such as Calender, News, Weather just crash.
Here is the funny fact: these apps are 32bit arm apps.
Another fact: Apple M1 is an arm64 exclusive processor(no 32-bit compatibility mode)

The result: the apps you mentioned cannot run without something like Rosetta.
 
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stevey500

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Interestingly The current Build of Windows won't let me install Office 64 bit. Says I can't run 64 bit apps. I thought that they said that this build was the first one to have support for 64 bit. But it does not seem like it.
You need to go to windows settings, sign into your Microsoft account in the insider release panel, accept to send diagnostics info, and change to preview dev releases, then update to release 21277.1 in windows updates.
 

tdar

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Are you on Build 21277? 64bit emulation does not present until build 21277.
By the way, isn't there a arm64 native office on Windows?
Yes on both counts. I'm trying to find the arm code, but I've been told that if you have the intel version It will update to the arm.

Update: I found this not so good news. ...You can now install x64 apps from the Microsoft Store. So it appears that your 64 bit apps have to come from the Windows store- the app of which we can't run because it's a 32 bit app. :(
 
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Gnattu

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Has anyone succeeded with this (setting Parallels hypervosor in settings)? Restart does not help. Extensions are allowed. View attachment 1696564
You should not need an extension if you are using the correct version of parallel. Parallel on M1 uses Apple's Hypervisor Framework which does not require a kernel extension.
 

Susurs

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You should not need an extension if you are using the correct version of parallel. Parallel on M1 uses Apple's Hypervisor Framework which does not require a kernel extension.
M1 version allows to select Parallels hypervisor for some reason in settings as well.
 

thearm

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Here is the funny fact: these apps are 32bit arm apps.
Another fact: Apple M1 is an arm64 exclusive processor(no 32-bit compatibility mode)

The result: the apps you mentioned cannot run without something like Rosetta.
I wonder why they do that I am pretty sure there is no arm 32bit computer being sold?
 

Gnattu

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I wonder why they do that I am pretty sure there is no arm 32bit computer being sold?
Ask Microsoft for why. As far as I know all of the "Officially supported" arm devices on Windows 10 are using 64bit arm processors.
 

Gnattu

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@tdar @motech
I found a dirty workaround that we can have for now to not reinstall every time at boot:

After the reinstall, click postpone the restart, then open device manager, under system device, choose parallel tool device, and uninstall that device, including the driver of that device.

The VM should be working after reboot, but you are losing some advance features like automatically resolution change, coherent mode, file sharing and so on.
 

haralds

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Up and running. Windows runs very well and barely stresses the M1.

The built in Windows tools such as Calender, News, Weather just crash. Apps like Edge and Geekbench run fine.

Will test Steam on the weekend.Which version of Insider review are you running. I only see 20231 and am having trouble. Third attempt now.
 

Susurs

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Steam does not allow me to downoload any games on v20...

It does allow downloads on 21 277 though...

...However, none of the few games I tried was able to launch with Steam .... RE2 demo, Syberia 3 (Steam). Crashed.
 

JakeT85

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Noob question. Been a bootcamp user so getting used to all of this VM stuff. I have no internet when booted, no networks shown under wifi, take it WiFi is a no go and you have to use Ethernet chord?
 

motech

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You need to go to windows settings, sign into your Microsoft account in the insider release panel, accept to send diagnostics info, and change to preview dev releases, then update to release 21277.1 in windows updates.

So with this, we should be able to install most any 64bit windows apps?
 

KPOM

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Noob question. Been a bootcamp user so getting used to all of this VM stuff. I have no internet when booted, no networks shown under wifi, take it WiFi is a no go and you have to use Ethernet chord?
No, normally the virtualization platform is able to pass your Mac’s internet connection by mimicking a network. Given that we are dealing with alpha versions of both Parallels and Windows on ARM, this is likely a combination of bugs that is preventing you from accessing the internet.
 
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digitalbreak

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I finally installed the Parallels Tech Preview and also downloaded the Windows 10 ARM VHDX. However, when opening in Parallels, Windows 10 boots but its completely unresponsive - can't click or do anything. I tried reinstalling the Parallel Tools, seems to have reinstalled but still is not responsive.

I didn't change any VM settings, just opened the VHDX in Parallels. I am using M1 MBA with 8-core GPU and 16GB memory.
 

KPOM

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I finally installed the Parallels Tech Preview and also downloaded the Windows 10 ARM VHDX. However, when opening in Parallels, Windows 10 boots but its completely unresponsive - can't click or do anything. I tried reinstalling the Parallel Tools, seems to have reinstalled but still is not responsive.

I didn't change any VM settings, just opened the VHDX in Parallels. I am using M1 MBA with 8-core GPU and 16GB memory.
I’ve noticed that too. A few posts above someone posted a workaround.
 

KPOM

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@tdar @motech
I found a dirty workaround that we can have for now to not reinstall every time at boot:

After the reinstall, click postpone the restart, then open device manager, under system device, choose parallel tool device, and uninstall that device, including the driver of that device.

The VM should be working after reboot, but you are losing some advance features like automatically resolution change, coherent mode, file sharing and so on.
I wonder if the issue is on the Parallels or Windows side.
 

digitalbreak

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I’ve noticed that too. A few posts above someone posted a workaround.
Could you point me to that thread? All I see is try reinstalling Parallel Tools - but that is not working either.

Edit:
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Ok, reinstall the tools but click on Postpone instead of restarting...
 

theorist9

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So this is interesting. Up to this point, everyone's been saying the barrier to virtualizing ARM-Windows on Apple Silicon is Microsoft, since they weren't willing to sell individual copies of ARM-Windows (OEM only).

But now it turns out they're willing to give away ARM-Windows (at least a beta version) for free to anyone who creates a Microsoft account and registers for the Windows Insider program.

So what's going on? Is this a change in MS's thinking? Or did those who insisted MS wouldn't release individual copies of ARM-Windows not understand MS's game plan?
 
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