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Right now the SM951 is running @ 104.0F

The 970 Pros @ 116.6F & 114.8F
Lou,

What does "F" mean? ;)

Aiden

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Thanks for showing me DriveDx soft. I´m surprised how useful iti is. Even show me the state of HD belonging to RAID´s separately.
 
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If you installed MP51.0084.B00 you used High Sierra 10.13.0 to 10.13.3. So, you don't followed the instructions and downloaded the full Mac App Store installer for 10.13.6.

No I definitely did follow your instructions. First of all the mac store nonsense is not allowing a download it just says "Open" (because there is a previously downloaded version present in my applications folder - but not installed.

That version was the version I performed the Bios flashing which brought me to MP51.0084.B00.

However, Upon inspection of that download it now says the download is corrupted? I have never seen that occur in my 30 years with Apple, where minutes after using some software it is now showing corrupt. (but as everything that Apple is doing these days, unless one focuses extraordinary amounts of time in these operating system matters you have no way of telling what happened because everything goes through their mac store, ewww. nothing is transparent, everything is hidden and restricted, nothing like the openness in the past.)

And when you attempt to actually get complete versions of their operating systems (not updates but complete final versions) of their various OS versions, you only find (after a long search because Apple has decided to not make any of this easy as it should be) you finally find a "support" page listing a bunch of versions - ALL of which have the word "update" and non of which have the word "complete" or "final" and since I am not a mac os programming professional and since my crystal ball doesn't seem to work I have no idea which if any of these "updates" is a FULL VERSION because apple does not make any of this as easy as it should be.

On Their Support Page where I finally found OS download links NOT ONE SINGLE LINK would indicate that they are anything other than an UPDATE. And to me the word update means that it is not a full final version.

So the problem is very definitely NOT with this 30 user who has never faces such difficulties before with Apple Inc. The problem of course is obviously because Apple Inc aint the same company it used to be, Apple is purposely making life as difficult as they possibly can for creative professionals. That is definitely the problem because all of this nonsense would have been solved by ONE SINGLE CLICK OF A MOUSE like all such operating systems issues should be handled. (if they did their job right this would be an issue it would be ONE CLICK like it should be and then this stuff called "programming" handles all this stupid nonsense that users or creative professionals don't need to know and definitely don't have the time to care)

It should be ONE CLICK and then you do what you are supposed to be doing which is your CREATIVE WORK. Thats WAS the philosophy and purpose of Apple inc. And that would still be the case if Mr. Jobs was alive today. It would be one click (as it should be ) then all this nonsense that I have WASTED three days on I would have been doing what I love. Making art and film projects, NOT fiddling with bios updates.

Thank you though for trying to do was Apple has refused to do. I do appreciate whatever help I can get.

As for my view with Apple inc, it is nothing but frustration, mistrust and frankly anger at this point. Apple is Microsoft 2.0 basically.
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Download from where? the apple store?
I tried to re download and it just asks me to do a bios update and does not download and when i click update bios the computer shuts down, and after a while I hold down the power button and it beeps and goes blank for longer than it did during the first Bios update yesterday and when it powers up again the Bios has NOT changed
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I'll post the complete instructions for you, please read it:

Mojave will only install if you have upgraded your BootROM and your Mac Pro have a Metal capable GPU.

If you are trying to install Mojave on a Mac Pro 5,1 (2009 updated to 5,1 firmware, 2010 and 2012), you have first to upgrade your BootROM to version MP51.0089.B00 and to High Sierra 10.13.6, then you can install a Metal capable GPU and install Mojave.

You can read the Apple Support article here: Install macOS 10.14 Mojave on Mac Pro (Mid 2010) and Mac Pro (Mid 2012).

Remember: Apple Mojave recommend RX-560/580 cards do not have Mac EFI, so you need to install your original EFI GPU to upgrade your BootROM to MP51.0089.B00 using the Mac App Store 10.13.6 full installer. After that, Mojave installer can upgrade your firmware without the need of a Mac EFI GPU and requires that you only have Metal supported cards installed in your Mac Pro.

The Apple third-party graphics cards list identifies specific cards that are compatible:
  • MSI Gaming Radeon RX 560 128-bit 4GB GDDR5
  • SAPPHIRE Radeon PULSE RX 580 8GB GDDR5
  • SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 7950 Mac Edition
  • NVIDIA Quadro K5000 for Mac
  • NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Mac Edition
The three cards listed in bold above have Mac EFI.
The list also identifies cards that might be compatible, none of which have Mac EFI:
  • AMD Radeon RX 560
  • AMD Radeon RX 570
  • AMD Radeon RX 580
  • AMD Radeon Pro WX 7100
  • AMD Radeon RX Vega 56
  • AMD Radeon RX Vega 64
  • AMD Radeon Pro WX 9100
  • AMD Radeon Frontier Edition
If you have a earlier than MP51.0089.B00 BootROM version, these are the steps to upgrade your BootROM to have Mojave support:

  1. Disconnect any 4K or DP1.2 display. You can't update to MP51.0089.B00 with a 4K/DP1.2 screen connected to your Mac EFI card. It's a old bug that Apple corrected with MP6,1 and "forgot" to correct with the MP5,1. MP5,1 efiflasher don't support 4K screens or DP1.2, you can reconnect after you update your BootROM.
  2. Disable FileVault2 if enabled, since FV2 is not supported anymore with a Mac Pro 5,1 running Mojave.
  3. Install a Mac EFI64 card. Any original Apple card from 2008 to 2012 (HD 2600XT, 8800GT, Quadro FX 5600, GT120, HD 4870/5770/5870) or 3rd party Mac EFI cards like Sapphire HD 7950 Mac Edition, eVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, NVIDIA Quadro 4000/K5000 or self-flashed/MVC flashed cards.
  4. If you use a SATA III PCIe card, remove your drive from the card and install into the Mac Pro SATA II ports, a lot of people reports trouble doing the firmware upgrade with SATA III cards.
  5. Download the full Mac App Store Installer for 10.13.6 (even if you already are on 10.13.6)View attachment 793503
  6. Open the installer, do the firmware upgrade as asked.
  7. After the firmware upgrade, 10.13.6 installer will open again, you can close it.
  8. Now check if your Mac Pro BootROM is MP51.0089.B00, if yes you can shutdown and install your Metal capable GPU (any AMD equal or newer than HD 7xxx, NVIDIA GTX 680 Mac Edition, Quadro K5000 and other NVIDIA Kepler cards). [If you have a NVIDIA card that need the web driver, Maxwell and Pascal ones, wait for NVIDIA release it for Mojave]
  9. Download the full Mac App Store installer for Mojave.
  10. Open the installer, do the firmware upgrade as asked.
  11. After the reboot, open System Information and check if you have BootROM 140.0.0.0.0, if yes, you can do a createinstallmedia USB clean install (read NVIDIA GTX 680/780/Quadro K5000 note) or upgrade your previous High Sierra install.
Note, some people are getting black screens with Mojave when using RX-4xx/5xx GPUs, if you are having it, do a clean install or debug your kexts, seems a problem with incompatible Air Display kexts. Read here.

- Hacked installs note:

If you did a hacked install, like dosdude ones, you will probably need to do a clean install to upgrade your firmware.

Only the full Mac App Store installers work for upgrading the firmware, macOS installers downloaded with dosdude tool can't upgrade the firmware. Apple firmware upgrade tool needs a clean and standard EFI partition to do so, so you probably need to do a clean install before trying to upgrade the firmware if you used a hacked install.​


- RAID & SATA III PCIe cards note:

You can't upgrade your firmware if you are booting from a RAID array or using a SATA III card. Remove all RAID drives and boot from a SATA drive connected into a native SATA port. Btw, Mojave don't boot from SoftwareRAID arrays or any hardware array that present to the OS as multiple disks.​


- Upgrade firmware from USB note:

You can’t upgrade Mac Pro firmware from createinstallmedia USB-key. Do it from macOS. It only works if you have the exact original config and if your Mac Pro is 2010/2012. Don’t waste your time trying.​


- NVIDIA GTX 680/780/Quadro K5000 note:

If you have a NVIDIA GTX 680 Mac Edition card, GTX 680 flashed with the Mac Edition firmware, GTX 780 or a Quadro K5000 you can't do a USB clean install with it at the moment. The USB installer don't detect that the GPU is a Metal supported card and don't continue the install, it's a bug with Nvidia Kepler GPUs.

To do a clean install, do from macOS with two drives - just select your empty one when doing the install.​


- Bluetooth keyboards/mice note:

A lot of people have problems installing macOS with Apple and third party bluetooth keyboards/mice. It's best to use wired ones.​


- 140.0.0.0.0 and previous macOS releases note:

Firmware 140.0.0.0.0 can boot even 10.6.8, but only if your previous macOS version has drivers for your GPU. For example, with RX-4xx/RX-5xx, you are limited to 10.12.6/10.13/10.14.​


If nothing above works for you, try this:

  1. Download El Capitan (10.11.6) or Sierra (10.12.6) - don't use 10.13/10.14 to this, both require firmware updates to install. Download from the Mac App Store, don't use hacked installs, torrents, etc.
  2. Use createinstallmedia to create a USB key installer.
  3. Shutdown your Mac Pro and remove all PCIe cards except your Mac EFI GPU.
  4. Clear your Mac Pro SMC and NVRAM.
  5. Remove all disks except the one that you will do a clean install of 10.11.6/10.12.6.
  6. Power on your Mac Pro and do a clean install of 10.11.6/10.12.6.
  7. After 10.11.6/10.12.6 is installed, download 10.13.6 full Mac App Store installer and open it, the High Sierra installer will ask you to perform a firmware update, shutdown your Mac Pro and do it. Download from the Mac App Store, don't use hacked installs, torrents, etc.
  8. After your Mac Pro restarts, close the installer and go to SystemInformation and check if your BootROM is MP51.0089.B00 now. If not, you did something wrong.
  9. Use createinstallmedia to create a USB key installer of High Sierra, power off your Mac Pro.
  10. Power on your Mac Pro, boot from the createinstallmedia USB-key and do a clean install of 10.13.6 - always do clean installs.
  11. After 10.13.6 is installed, shutdown your Mac Pro and replace your original GPU to a Metal supported one.
  12. Power on your Mac Pro and download 10.14.2 full Mac App Store installer. Download from the Mac App Store, don't use hacked installs, torrents, etc. Open it, the Mojave installer will ask you to perform a firmware update, shutdown your Mac Pro and do it.
  13. After your Mac Pro restarts, check if your BootROM is 140.0.0.0.0, if it is, you can create a USB-key and do a clean install of Mojave now. If you have a NVIDIA GTX 680, then you have to do a clean install from your 10.13.6 disk into another disk, since USB installer has a bug that don't identify GTX 680/780/Quadro K5000 as a METAL supported GPU.
These are the exact instructions that I have been following for the past three days.
 
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On Their Support Page where I finally found OS download links NOT ONE SINGLE LINK would indicate that they are anything other than an UPDATE. And to me the word update means that it is not a full final version.View attachment 820673

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-high-sierra/id1246284741?mt=12

Ouch, my finger got caught on the cut and paste feature. Please keep your posts on topic and don't base them on your frustrations being re-directed at those attempting to help you complete what many others have already successfully completed.

SATA's are needed until the newer bootroms-but you said you've been working with Apple equipment for over 30 years so you have one laying around right? I think you busted yourself here bud.

This isn't the bootrom thread after all. Once you get your bootrom updated you can then use your NVMe/AHCI card for your fresh OS install.
 
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Hold power button and continue holding power button until 10-15 seconds after the beep stops. Do not release before that. Too many people report errors because they let go of power button too soon. CD/DVD should open as well.
I've held the button down for 15 seconds after hearing the beep. It still only updates to MP51.0084.B00.
I have erased the old version of High Sierra but the apple store will NOT allow me to download the full software. It downloads 22.7 mb - since i am NOT a mac OS programmer or specialist nor do I wish to be i don't know the correct terminology for this 22.7mb file but in the old days we would call them helper apps, or installers (but not real installers just helper apps) whatever its called 0 it is not the full download and this screen which comes op asking of I want to update by bios is to the best of my grasp here coming from this partial download.

I guess I will have to seek another way to perform this flashing because I'm pretty good at following directions. For some reason these directions keep yielding the same results - fail.
 
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-high-sierra/id1246284741?mt=12

Ouch, my finger got caught on the cut and paste feature. Please keep your posts on topic and don't base them on your frustrations being re-directed at those attempting to help you complete what many others have already successfully completed.

SATA's are needed until the newer bootroms-but you said you've been working with Apple equipment for over 30 years so you have one laying around right? I think you busted yourself here bud.

This isn't the bootrom thread after all. Once you get your bootrom updated you can then use your NVMe/AHCI card for your fresh OS install.


I think many here may be missing the point. The point is this is the year 2019.
Words like boot rom, the concepts behind boot rom, the inner workings of NVME, and the many workarounds to deal this nonsense, are ALL subjects and concepts that should be OF ZERO CONCERN OR KNOWLEDGE TO CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS. But that is only the case when companies actually do the right thing.

Trust me on this one, if I never hear the word boot rom or ever in my life read paragraph after paragraph and page after page and hour after hour about boot rom and NVME rams - trust me on this one - I will not despair.

I frankly never want to deal with such nonsense every again and this all has to do with the new deep state corporate plan to put roadblocks in front of creators, return from non linearity to linearity (fb, twitter etc) return to centralization from decentralization. Everything is going as planned so if you are not angry there is definitely something missing.(or you are a billionaire)
 
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You're all kind of missing the point. The point is this is the year 2019.
Words like boot rom, the concepts behind boot rom, the inner workings of NVME, and the many workarounds to deal this nonsense, are ALL subjects and concepts that should be OF ZERO CONCERN OR KNOWLEDGE TO CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS. But that is only the case when companies actually do the right thing.

Trust me on this one, if I never hear the word boot rom or ever in my life read paragraph after paragraph and page after page and hour after hour about boot rom and NVME rams - trust me on this one -



I think many here may be missing the point. The point is this is the year 2019.
Words like boot rom, the concepts behind boot rom, the inner workings of NVME, and the many workarounds to deal this nonsense, are ALL subjects and concepts that should be OF ZERO CONCERN OR KNOWLEDGE TO CREATIVE PROFESSIONALS. But that is only the case when companies actually do the right thing.

Trust me on this one, if I never hear the word boot rom or ever in my life read paragraph after paragraph and page after page and hour after hour about boot rom and NVME rams - trust me on this one - I will not despair.

I frankly never want to deal with such nonsense every again and this all has to do with the new deep state corporate plan to put roadblocks in from of creators, return from non linearity to linearity (fb, twitter etc) return to centralization from decentralization. Everything is going as planned so if you are not angry there is definitely something missing.(or your are a billionaire)

Why you are trashing the thread with all this? Don't mess with a thread that so much people has been contributing since the start.

If you can't follow instructions that hundreds of Mac Pro owners successfully did, pay someone to do it.
 
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Why you are trashing the thread with all this? Don't mess with a thread that so much people has been contributing since the start.

If you can't follow instructions that hundreds of Mac Pro owners successfully did, pay someone to do it.
I would definitely pay - If I can find someone in NYC who can do it I would be thrilled to pay.

Anyways Thank You for your help though.
I have much more respect for the people on this board who have tried to help me than that creep in cupertino who is destroying that awesome company.
 
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It will work nicely.

I used a SM951-AHCI installed into a Angelbird Wings PX1 for more than six months into Slot-3. It will be limited to 1500MB/s, but you already now this.

At upstart the led of the card flashes once. Then no more and it doesn't show up on the desktop or in diskutil.
What could be wrong?

I'm at rom 140, card is kryoM.2 evo PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter für M.2 NGFF PCIe SSD, M-Key mit Passivkühler and ssd is EVO970.
 
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At upstart the led of the card flashes once. Then no more and it doesn't show up on the desktop or in diskutil.
What could be wrong?

I'm at rom 140, card is kryoM.2 evo PCIe 3.0 x4 Adapter für M.2 NGFF PCIe SSD, M-Key mit Passivkühler and ssd is EVO970.
Usually NVMe and AHCI M.2 blades came from factory unformatted, did you took a look at System Information / NVMExpress?
 
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I was still on Sierra. Updated to HS and bingo! But when I boot from old system still can't see the new SSD card.

Apple SSD Controller:

Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB:

Capaciteit: 1 TB (1.000.204.886.016 bytes)
TRIM-ondersteuning: Ja
Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB
Revisie: 2B2QEXE7
Serienummer: S467NX0KA16089W
Breedte koppeling: x4
Verbindingssnelheid: 5.0 GT/s
Externe eenheid: Nee
BSD-naam: disk0
Type partitie-indeling: GPT (GUID-partitietabel)
Verwisselbare media: Nee
Volumes:
EFI:
Capaciteit: 209,7 MB (209.715.200 bytes)
Bestandssysteem: MS-DOS FAT32
BSD-naam: disk0s1
Inhoud: EFI
Volume-UUID: 0E239BC6-F960-3107-89CF-1C97F78BB46B
disk0s2:
Capaciteit: 1 TB (999.995.129.856 bytes)
BSD-naam: disk0s2
Inhoud: Apple_APFS
 
I was still on Sierra. Updated to HS and bingo! But when I boot from old system still can't see the new SSD card.

Apple SSD Controller:

Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB:

Capaciteit: 1 TB (1.000.204.886.016 bytes)
TRIM-ondersteuning: Ja
Model: Samsung SSD 970 EVO 1TB
Revisie: 2B2QEXE7
Serienummer: S467NX0KA16089W
Breedte koppeling: x4
Verbindingssnelheid: 5.0 GT/s
Externe eenheid: Nee
BSD-naam: disk0
Type partitie-indeling: GPT (GUID-partitietabel)
Verwisselbare media: Nee
Volumes:
EFI:
Capaciteit: 209,7 MB (209.715.200 bytes)
Bestandssysteem: MS-DOS FAT32
BSD-naam: disk0s1
Inhoud: EFI
Volume-UUID: 0E239BC6-F960-3107-89CF-1C97F78BB46B
disk0s2:
Capaciteit: 1 TB (999.995.129.856 bytes)
BSD-naam: disk0s2
Inhoud: Apple_APFS
Let me quote what I wrote on the first post of the thread, since it's a recurring question:

macOS NVMe Support:
  • macOS Sierra supports 4KB /sector drives like Apple OEM and some very expensive / very rare Intel and Toshiba blades.
  • macOS High Sierra and Mojave supports both 4KB / sector and 512 bytes / sector NVMe drives.
  • All Samsung consumer blades are 512 bytes / sector.
  • To boot from a NVMe drive you need to install firmware 140.0.0.0.0, that Apple first supplied with the complete Mac App Store Mojave installer, 10.14.2 version.
  • High Sierra works perfectly with BootROM 140.0.0.0.0 and all types of NVMe drives.
  • If you install 140.0.0.0.0, Sierra can boot from a 4KByte / sector NVMe M.2 blade.
  • You can read about it on the first posts of these two threads:
    1. MP5,1: What you have to do to upgrade to Mojave
    2. MP5,1: BootROM thread | 141.0.0.0.0

I'll add that no other macOS version supports NVMe blades.
 
Sorry I didn't go back to your first post. Completely forgot! Am over the moon it works now. You're a genius, tsialex.
I hope nVidia will release a webdriver for Mojave, I did not try my GTX970 with this config yet, still on old flashed GT640.
Tks again.
 
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Sorry I didn't go back to your first post. Completely forgot! Am over the moon it works now. You're a genius, tsialex.
I hope nVidia will release a webdriver for Mojave, I did not try my GTX970 with this config yet, still on old flashed GT640.
Tks again.
Just to correct attribution, this is a thread created by @MisterAndrew, not me, I just help here. :)
 
Changing to an alternative setup. Booting Mojave from my IOcrest in RAID 0.

Shocked it boots in less than 10 seconds. Speed are so great. Booting from a single APFS seems to be a pain
 
Changing to an alternative setup. Booting Mojave from my IOcrest in RAID 0.

Shocked it boots in less than 10 seconds. Speed are so great. Booting from a single APFS seems to be a pain

10 seconds? Hard to believe. You must be running on a single stick of 8GB RAM. The cMP usually takes it's time to post.
 
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