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Phil Schiller Says 32GB RAM on New MacBook Pro Would Have Required Battery Compromising Design
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Headline for next week:
"Phil Schiller Acknowledges He Accidentally Desiged A New Macbook Instead of A Macbook Pro"
"Phil Schiller Acknowledges He Accidentally Desiged A New Macbook Instead of A Macbook Pro"
Y'know, you COULD just leave . . .
I don't think that's what they are saying, Kaby Lake will support LPDDR4 which can scale past 16GB. My guess is there will be a mild mid-year refresh of the MBP with KabyLake.
I love how even apple fanboys are calling out Phil Schiller for his bullsh*t. This is thoroughly satisfying. Now if only people made their distaste for the new macbook known by voicing it with their wallets and NOT buying that disposable junk.
I'm sure after reading this, we will all stop complaining to ensure we can keep you around.
The Apple II had problems with RF interference. Apple was determined that the Apple III meet FCC requirements, and this meant that the case had to be designed and tested at an early stage. Perhaps case designers in those days lacked the equipment to reliably design, test, and refine prototypes.
Steve Wozniak hinted that the computer could have been build more reliably using two PC boards, instead of a single board
https://archive.org/stream/byte-mag...0-01_Through_the_Hourglass#page/n177/mode/2up
I suppose you could argue that the Apple III would have succeeded had it used a fan, which Steve Jobs, in his arrogance, had removed, but that's a gross oversimplification.
Apple's dream of moving us into a post-Personal Computer world is finally coming true.
By making less and less capable personal computers, they're ensuring we're less inclined to buy them.
Congratulations, Cupertino.
By making less and less capable personal computers, they're ensuring we're less inclined to buy them.
Congratulations, Cupertino.
There's no 'good design' in the new MBP. From the soldered-down components that should be upgradable to the gimmicky touch bar that will be meaningless to most users it's a huge pile of turd. Any idiot can make a thin design if you throw away huge amounts of functionality and flexibility.
And it's mad expensive.
My wife's 2012 non-retina MBP was, in the context of its time, the last great Apple laptop.
And it's mad expensive.
My wife's 2012 non-retina MBP was, in the context of its time, the last great Apple laptop.
Its a Pro model Apple!!
Put a little backbone into the laptop and give it some oomph. User upgradable RAM to 32GB and user replaceable SSD. Get rid of the little princess pony RX460 GPU and put a workhorse in it or at least the RX480.
If the battery is too small then put it in a bigger case. We don't need a full day on battery just give us enough for the commute and an extended meeting say 4-5 hours and fast charging.
Put a little backbone into the laptop and give it some oomph. User upgradable RAM to 32GB and user replaceable SSD. Get rid of the little princess pony RX460 GPU and put a workhorse in it or at least the RX480.
If the battery is too small then put it in a bigger case. We don't need a full day on battery just give us enough for the commute and an extended meeting say 4-5 hours and fast charging.
I agree 100% with you, rMBP and even the original Unibody MBP was fine to travel with, I didn't notice to much of a difference between them. Both fit in the same sized sleeve and I only need my charger and my lighting cable and thats it.
And god knows that ventilation wouldn't be a possibility on a slightly thicker machine. For God's sake.
Yeah much better to compromise on RAM than chassis design. Its suppose to be a Pro computer after all 
Guess not including 1 single USB or SD card was dues to it would compromise the looks of the machine as well. Thats how it goes when not the ones who gonna use it makes the shots.
Guess not including 1 single USB or SD card was dues to it would compromise the looks of the machine as well. Thats how it goes when not the ones who gonna use it makes the shots.There will be a 32GB option when MBPs are refreshed next year with Kaby Lake, which will support low power RAM. If people really want to stay in the Mac camp, and really foresee needing 32GB now or down the road, best thing to do is wait for next June and get the refresh. And use what you have now to hold you over till then.
Tell that to sound engineers or someone who does video editing. Clearly you DONT do heavy workloads.
When the technology not ready why introduce it (they have used previous gen CPUs before, even today Mac Mini has two gen old CPUs and they have kept MBP with DVD for years without updating). clear oversight on Apple's part.
The CPUs for MBPs will come out next year.
I mean, at this point, it's more economical to buy the top of the line non-surface Windows-based laptop to add on MacOS than to buy the new MBP, even at regular pricing.
There is so much wrong with what Phil said. MacBook Pro is for professionals. Or at least it used to be. Professionals will put up with extra weight, shorter battery life and higher prices. They already lug a ton of stuff around. A MacBook Pro twice as heavy is tolerable if it delivers performance - ALWAYS. Shorter battery life is not ideal, but again, it is tolerable because you can buy extra chargers and batteries if needed. This is a machine for pro use. What won't pros put up with? A less capable machine when it comes to speed/power, memory and connectivity and graphics. Now, I don't believe the port/dongle situation is all that bad. You do get the amazing throughput even if you need dongles (although they pooched that one as well with only one side having high speed ports). I've heard good things about the display, but not sure if the video card is as high end as it could be. But Apple failed to deliver the speed and memory needed by Pros. They have lost touch with this market. These current machines are proof of that. So all the excuses in the world aren't going to make things better. You know what will? Deliver a MacBook Pro for pros. That means ultimate speed/power, memory (32GB at a minimum) even if it means it will be a half inch thicker and heavier.
Have used a loaded 15"? Strange, because I finished a few ~20min 4K videos since I got it.
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True.
Asus has a few good options for you guys, then!
What's with all the empty spaces around the battery?
Can't put in a bigger battery? My ***!
I'm guessing the reason for the empty space is for airflow to keep the battery temperature down. There is a lot more thought put into this than you might also expect. Don't be so quick to conclusions.
Phil you are a poor joke.
So, you think 30d standby time is more important than upping the RAM ceiling after 5 years in your professional Air line?
Those big open spaces between battery cells? Surely they are important for ventilation or as a habitat for endangered species and couldn't be of better use if the battery capacity were simply kept from the MBP 2015?
And of course the world's biggest smartphone company can only have three variants of ultrabooks and nothing beefier, because the development costs would be insane. Like offering the MBP 2015 with modern CPU's, better display and 32GB RAM.
Microsoft is openly mocking you already. It won't take long and others will join. You might shrug it off, but it will damage your brand image like Jobs' ****-talking MS damaged theirs.
So, you think 30d standby time is more important than upping the RAM ceiling after 5 years in your professional Air line?
Those big open spaces between battery cells? Surely they are important for ventilation or as a habitat for endangered species and couldn't be of better use if the battery capacity were simply kept from the MBP 2015?
And of course the world's biggest smartphone company can only have three variants of ultrabooks and nothing beefier, because the development costs would be insane. Like offering the MBP 2015 with modern CPU's, better display and 32GB RAM.
Microsoft is openly mocking you already. It won't take long and others will join. You might shrug it off, but it will damage your brand image like Jobs' ****-talking MS damaged theirs.