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valdore

macrumors 65816
Jan 9, 2007
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Kansas City, Missouri. USA
entryway.jpg


One handheld RAW // HDR // Shutter: 1/30 // Aperture: f/22.6 // Focal Length: 17 mm // ISO 100
 

sonor

macrumors 6502
Jan 15, 2008
345
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London, UK
Some sunsets go almost 'posterised' (ie solid colours, with little or no gradation). I've got a pic of a churchyard full of daffodils and, for some reason, the yellow colour comes out solid too, rather than as individual flowers. Etc, etc...

Are you shooting RAW? I wonder if this is a problem with raw conversion rather than a lens defect. I've found that with Adobe Camera Raw you have to be fairly careful with sunsets, as the yellow tones can start to look quite ugly if you boost the saturation very much. I think Nikon Capture NX is better for colour, but it is quite slow and fairly awkward to use.
 

Doylem

macrumors 68040
Dec 30, 2006
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Wherever I hang my hat...
Are you shooting RAW? I wonder if this is a problem with raw conversion rather than a lens defect. I've found that with Adobe Camera Raw you have to be fairly careful with sunsets, as the yellow tones can start to look quite ugly if you boost the saturation very much. I think Nikon Capture NX is better for colour, but it is quite slow and fairly awkward to use.

Yes, I'm shooting RAW, and import straight into Aperture. I guess I'm becoming more critical, 'cos, after a year of digital, I'm just about over the amazement of seeing a pic the moment I take it. :)

I'm also looking at a lot of pix at 100% (for submitting to a picture library), and that can be quite an eye-opener too (re critical focussing, various aberrations, colour-shifts, fringing, etc). I don't see this as a problem so much as a challenge, and I try to take pix that will make best use of the equipment I've got (which is damn good... if not quite the best...), rather than fretting about the occasional 'oddity'.

Digital photography is still quite an adventure for me, and I'm enjoying every minute of the challenge...
 

EssentialParado

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Feb 17, 2005
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jayfire124

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Nov 9, 2007
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It doesn't have anything to do with the camera body. Chromatic aberration, or other color fringing at areas of high contrast are usually caused by the paths of the different wavelengths of light (different colors) not converging at the same spot on the sensor perfectly - that's about as simple as I can get. It's the way the path of the light is concentrated and how stable it is, the factors which determine color accuracy and image brilliance, as well as sharpness and contrast. The "fix" for this is the use of low dispersion elements in the lens (at least one) which are made from special glass materials which reduce the tendency for glass to disperse or separate light rays into the colors of the rainbow. Different lens manufacturers call this type of element by various names; Low-Dispersion (LD) by Tamron, Extra-Low Dispersion (ED) by Nikon, Ultra-Low-Dispersion (UD) by Canon, Special Low-Dispersion (SLD) by Sigma and Super-Low-Dispersion (SD) by Tokina.

Generally, the less expensive lenses like kit zoom lenses are more susceptible to chromatic aberration, which can be seen on blowing up the picture and examining the details like bare tree branches against a white sky, where you'll often see purple fringing. More expensive glass is just better, and tend to have less of that.

The other thing with lenses used on digital SLRs is the tendencies toward spherical aberration (pincushioning, barrel distortion, light fall-off and softness near the edges.) Since the photo sensor in the camera is perfectly flat, and also reflective, this can cause specular reflection, which causes more flare and ghosting compared to the film surface in film SLRs. Also, light coming from an oblique angle out of the back of the lens causes problems with light fall-off in the corners because of the difficulty the pixel "buckets" have of capturing those oblique rays of light - result... vignetting. The "fix" for this phenomenon is the use of aspherical elements in the lens (one or more) to "straighten" out the light path before it hits the sensor.

These are generic issues with lenses used on dSLRs, and have largely been addressed by all the lens manufacturers, but clearly the better, more expensive lenses do a better job overcoming these design obstacles.

I noticed your photo was at 18mm focal length, you shot a Canon, so I'm going to assume it was the kit lens (18-55mm zoom.) That lens is not the best performer, meaning it will show some chromatic aberration (CA) issues in demanding shots, and the wider angle you use the tougher it gets to keep it in check. Some software programs can do post processing and remove some of the color fringing, but better glass gives you a better image to begin with. Of course, good glass ain't cheap... ;) That's why I still love my Nikkor 18-55 kit lens, and will keep on using it.

Wow thanks for the lesson it was really interesting as well as Doylem's
comments. Actually the picture was taken with a borrowed Sigma 10-20mm and to be honest I would question its quality as I shoot in Raw and sharpened the image quite a bit following a crop. I own a Canon EFS17-55IS and I am now going to put that to use following lots of reports about its quality for all manner of pictures including Landscapes. I was going to purchase a wide angle 10-20 Sigma or 10-22 Canon but will wait until I have used the 17-55IS for a while. Thanks again....at least I don't have to worry about going out and rushing to buy a 5D.
 

fridgeymonster3

macrumors 6502
Jan 28, 2008
493
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Philadelphia
first post...

here is my first post in this forum. Picture taken a few days ago. No post-processing (b/c my wife changed my DSLR setting from RAW to jpg without my knowledge!)

Canon Rebel XTi
Tripod
Shutter: 8.0 sec
Aperture: f/8
ISO: 200
Focal Length: 18.0 mm
 

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dnksr

macrumors newbie
Sep 24, 2007
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entryway.jpg


One handheld RAW // HDR // Shutter: 1/30 // Aperture: f/22.6 // Focal Length: 17 mm // ISO 100

Looks like the perfect opening title frame for the new NBC Drama
"BRENEMAN - DUNGAN, Attorneys at Law"
 

SolracSelbor

macrumors 6502
Nov 26, 2007
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This is quite something. As usual, I love the rich colours which are, IMO, perfect for this scene.

The composition is excellent. Great job!

Thank you!


Thank you!

Great artistry. And good use of subtle HDR treatment to add that special something.
Thanks a lot Eric. A good comment from the master always makes my day!

Absolutely agree. The composition and colours are both really successful - all those diagonal lines leading you round the image - it's great.
Thank you, too!
 

srf4real

macrumors 68040
Jul 25, 2006
3,001
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paradise beach FL
First time in a while I've posted a "large" photo. Probably just because this one needs more detail than usual.


That shot gives me goose bumps!:cool:

My submission for the day - a surfer!:p

coveredup.jpg

L1 + ZD 70-300mm in the rain under an umbrella @ 190mm
1/1300 sec. @ f/6.3, ISO 250
 

pdxflint

macrumors 68020
Aug 25, 2006
2,407
14
Oregon coast
Waiting for the last ferry..

Last ferry between Whidbey Island and Port Townsend, WA had not arrived yet...

ferry%20dock%2C%20whidbey.jpg


Canon Eos A2
Canon 28-105
Fuji Super G 400
 

Everythingisnt

macrumors 6502a
Jan 16, 2008
743
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Vancouver
So the grain is due to the fact that the scanner used to scan the image wasn't able to pick up as much detail as it should - or was it the fact that the print being scanned wasn't very large?

(Unless by 35mm Film scan you meant that the negatives were scanned :confused:)


I read on wikipedia that with an excellent lens, high quality 35mm film could capture the equivalent of 22 megapixels per exposure. So theoretically if you get a large print and a high quality scanner, you should be able to transfer your images quite crisply?
 
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