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quagmire

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Awesome man! You're going to love that Twin Turbo engine! I love it in my families 335xi. :D
 

Qwest905

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my car
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PDACPA

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Luck would have it I can be right after the other M3! Heck I even think he is Carbon Black like mine!

But I have the 19"'s and it has a a good selection of Dinan goodies!
 

quagmire

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Nice! I love those cars, I think its going to be my next one (in four years time... lol). I just bought a Cooper S, I'd call it the 135i's little brother :p.

Not even close. The Mini is on a POS FWD platform while the 1'er is on a shortened 3 series RWD platform. :D :p
 

DeepIn2U

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May 30, 2002
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Luck would have it I can be right after the other M3! Heck I even think he is Carbon Black like mine!

But I have the 19"'s and it has a a good selection of Dinan goodies!

E46 BMW M3! The Black Man Wagen ;) - Always loved that particular model - just like the original M3 back in the mid 80's.

But with this ride ....

Just over two weeks old. Was finally able to afford the insurance now that I'm 26.

Looks FAST just standing still! Jesus, you're only 26?! Did you earn the cash to pay for it yourself? If you upgrade to a faster car I'm fearful you may end up killing yourself for the lust spEEd.

PS - If you needed to change your tires, must you take it in to the dealership only - since their Nitrogen filled.
 

brax.j

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Looks FAST just standing still! Jesus, you're only 26?! Did you earn the cash to pay for it yourself? If you upgrade to a faster car I'm fearful you may end up killing yourself for the lust spEEd.

PS - If you needed to change your tires, must you take it in to the dealership only - since their Nitrogen filled.

Ya it is all my money I don't think I will be upgrading to a faster car anytime soon though but I have been eyeing the Audi R8 but I can't afford it right now. You can get aftermarket nitrogen tires or from Nissan but it will use regular tires but that would be stupid.
 

sn00pie

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Luck would have it I can be right after the other M3! Heck I even think he is Carbon Black like mine!

But I have the 19"'s and it has a a good selection of Dinan goodies!

Great looking car! The 19's look great on the car for sure.

I've got a few things I want to do before I upgrade the wheels. For now I'm in between ordering a Hamann exhaust or sourcing out a Eisanmann from the UK and get it shipped over. Maybe after that a tint, and some engine goodies might be in order.
 

SevenInchScrew

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Not even close. The Mini is on a POS FWD platform while the 1'er is on a shortened 3 series RWD platform. :D :p
Wow, that's nice. The Mini is a great little car, but because it is FWD it's a POS?? Good attitude. Lets not forget though, that the 135i starts at $36k, while the Mini starts at barely more than $23k. Very different cars, neither of which are a POS. Though, one of them is WAAAY too expensive.
Ya it is all my money I don't think I will be upgrading to a faster car anytime soon
Have you upgraded to a digital camera to take more pics of your car? Surely with all that $$$ you can do that, right? Come on man. It's a GTR, we want to see more.
...but it will use regular tires but that would be stupid.
Why is that stupid? Any tire can be filled with Nitrogen.
 

radiantm3

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Wow, that's nice. The Mini is a great little car, but because it is FWD it's a POS?? Good attitude. Lets not forget though, that the 135i starts at $36k, while the Mini starts at barely more than $23k. Very different cars, neither of which are a POS. Though, one of them is WAAAY too expensive.
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The 1 is priced right for what you get. It's pretty much just a smaller, sportier version of the 3 coupe. Same features and build quality, only 7k cheaper.
 

PDACPA

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Jul 16, 2008
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Snoopie- I stuck to Dinan as I had full maintenance and the CPO warranty until this June from when I bought the car a number of years ago. Not the highest performance, but Dinan is the only authorized aftermarket parts that match the warranty (and my BMW dealer is a Dinan dealer).

My tint is 20%. Have to have it in FL (but the legal 35% is not dark enough).

Not that I speed :D I also have the Blinder Laser diffuser built in and the V-1 display built in (did not hide the V-1 but it is hard to see behind the 5% tint on the sun strip and the "ipod my BMW feature" is perfect.
 

radiantm3

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Snoopie- I stuck to Dinan as I had full maintenance and the CPO warranty until this June from when I bought the car a number of years ago. Not the highest performance, but Dinan is the only authorized aftermarket parts that match the warranty (and my BMW dealer is a Dinan dealer).

My tint is 20%. Have to have it in FL (but the legal 35% is not dark enough).

Not that I speed :D I also have the Blinder Laser diffuser built in and the V-1 display built in (did not hide the V-1 but it is hard to see behind the 5% tint on the sun strip and the "ipod my BMW feature" is perfect.

That's pretty cool. :)
 

SevenInchScrew

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The 1 is priced right for what you get. It's pretty much just a smaller, sportier version of the 3 coupe. Same features and build quality, only 7k cheaper.
Sure, compared to other cars from BMW. But, when compared to other coupes from different brands, it isn't priced so well. For example, if you compare it to a 370Z Touring, the outcome isn't so pretty for the BMW. The Z weighs less, has more power, gets better fuel economy, has more front passenger space, and has more standard features, all while coming in $1400 cheaper.

Now, don't get me wrong. The new 1 series is a nice car. If you don't need the extra size of the 3-series, but still want a Bimmer, it's great. But, I just don't agree with it being "priced right for what you get" at all. But, it isn't my $$$, so that is just my opinion.
 

radiantm3

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Sure, compared to other cars from BMW. But, when compared to other coupes from different brands, it isn't priced so well. For example, if you compare it to a 370Z Touring, the outcome isn't so pretty for the BMW. The Z weighs less, has more power, gets better fuel economy, has more front passenger space, and has more standard features, all while coming in $1400 cheaper.

Now, don't get me wrong. The new 1 series is a nice car. If you don't need the extra size of the 3-series, but still want a Bimmer, it's great. But, I just don't agree with it being "priced right for what you get" at all. But, it isn't my $$$, so that is just my opinion.

I test drove the 370z before buying the 135i. The Z has 30 more HP, but 30 less ft/lb. of torque. Stock vs stock, they are pretty much equal in performance. With the extra torque, the 135i pulls a lot harder than the 370z so it actually feels a bit faster. Don't forget you can push the 135i into almost the 400hp range with under a grand. That's the biggest selling point for me. I'll have around 380hp and 400ft/lb. of torque in a few weeks for pennies compared to what it would cost to get the 370z up there in power.

The Z does feel like a bigger car which is a negative for me. I'm only 5'9 and I prefer smaller cars. And the interior on the Z is still cheap. It's a lot better than the previous years, but nowhere near the quality of the 1. The Z is a focused sports car for sure and if that's all you want, then it's a great buy. I don't plan to track my car if at all. I just want a fun daily driver that has power, looks, and a little luxury to it. The Z just didn't cut it for me.
 

Educ8r

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Comparison Test: 2009 Nissan 370Z vs. 2008 BMW 135i ;)
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I test drove the 370z before buying the 135i. The Z has 30 more HP, but 30 less ft/lb. of torque. Stock vs stock, they are pretty much equal in performance. With the extra torque, the 135i pulls a lot harder than the 370z so it actually feels a bit faster. Don't forget you can push the 135i into almost the 400hp range with under a grand. That's the biggest selling point for me. I'll have around 380hp and 400ft/lb. of torque in a few weeks for pennies compared to what it would cost to get the 370z up there in power.

The Z does feel like a bigger car which is a negative for me. I'm only 5'9 and I prefer smaller cars. And the interior on the Z is still cheap. It's a lot better than the previous years, but nowhere near the quality of the 1. The Z is a focused sports car for sure and if that's all you want, then it's a great buy. I don't plan to track my car if at all. I just want a fun daily driver that has power, looks, and a little luxury to it. The Z just didn't cut it for me.
 

quagmire

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Wow, that's nice. The Mini is a great little car, but because it is FWD it's a POS?? Good attitude. Lets not forget though, that the 135i starts at $36k, while the Mini starts at barely more than $23k. Very different cars, neither of which are a POS. Though, one of them is WAAAY too expensive.

Where did I call the Mini a POS? I stated, " POS FWD platform". Plus, they are not even close to being siblings. I prefer RWD. That is the car enthusiast in me. FWD stinks for performance. Sure there are some decent FWD vehicles( Cobalt SS, GTi, etc).

I test drove the 370z before buying the 135i. The Z has 30 more HP, but 30 less ft/lb. of torque. Stock vs stock, they are pretty much equal in performance. With the extra torque, the 135i pulls a lot harder than the 370z so it actually feels a bit faster. Don't forget you can push the 135i into almost the 400hp range with under a grand. That's the biggest selling point for me. I'll have around 380hp and 400ft/lb. of torque in a few weeks for pennies compared to what it would cost to get the 370z up there in power.

The Z does feel like a bigger car which is a negative for me. I'm only 5'9 and I prefer smaller cars. And the interior on the Z is still cheap. It's a lot better than the previous years, but nowhere near the quality of the 1. The Z is a focused sports car for sure and if that's all you want, then it's a great buy. I don't plan to track my car if at all. I just want a fun daily driver that has power, looks, and a little luxury to it. The Z just didn't cut it for me.

Plus, there is talk of the Twin Turbo I6 being underrated. As there have been dyno's at ~281 HP. Indicating it is underrated. BMW also has come out with a performance upgrade to 326 HP and 336 lb of torque. While Dinan, JB3, etc will give you a bigger power increase, the BMW upgrade gives you better cooling and the warranty still intact. ;)
 

SevenInchScrew

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Jun 23, 2007
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...Don't forget you can push the 135i into almost the 400hp range with under a grand. That's the biggest selling point for me. I'll have around 380hp and 400ft/lb. of torque in a few weeks for pennies compared to what it would cost to get the 370z up there in power.
But, don't forget, that Z also started out about $1500 cheaper. So, you now have a car with only 50hp more and $2500 more expensive. The VQ engine in the Z can make plenty of power with $2500.
...And the interior on the Z is still cheap. It's a lot better than the previous years, but nowhere near the quality of the 1.
Having owned 2 3-series previously, and a girlfriend with a E92, I guess we will just agree to disagree on what "QUALITY" means to each of us. The entry model BMW never has the stuff it should. Whether that is between models (1 to 3), or within models and their option packages. Maybe the level of materials and fit and finish are more your thing. That is fine. But to me, its the level of equipment. And again, for less $$$ the Z has more.
The Z is a focused sports car for sure and if that's all you want, then it's a great buy. I don't plan to track my car if at all.
But you need 400hp?
...Plus, they are not even close to being siblings.
I took the original poster to mean that if they got a 1-series it would be in ADDITION to the Mini, thus making the Mini the so-called "Little Brother" to the BMW in that household. And, lets not forget who owns Mini these days, thus adding to the family talk.
...I prefer RWD. That is the car enthusiast in me. FWD stinks for performance.
That is entirely your opinion, and perfectly acceptable. If all you want is straight-line speed, sure RWD is preferable. But, to just make the cut-and-dry statement that one is GREAT and the other a POS is leaving a lot of things out. There are MANY cars out there that are FWD with great all-around performance.
 

quagmire

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That is entirely your opinion, and perfectly acceptable. If all you want is straight-line speed, sure RWD is preferable. But, to just make the cut-and-dry statement that one is GREAT and the other a POS is leaving a lot of things out. There are MANY cars out there that are FWD with great all-around performance.

RWD is preferable for both straight line and handling performance vs FWD......... The power shouldn't be going to the wheels that also steer.

Like I said though, there are some FWD vehicles that perform well like the Cobalt SS and GTi.
 

radiantm3

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Yup. Seen it. And it mainly won based on it's price. And don't forget the 1 comes with run flats compared to the sticky tires that come on the Z. Put some equally sticky tires on the 1 and I bet you the tables would have turned. Price aside, both cars perform almost equally well give and take a few tenths. :)

We both can agree that you can't beat the Z for it's performance/price ratio. If I was bargain hunting, I would have gotten the Z. I bought the 1 because I prefer it over the Z and I had the budget to spend a bit more. In fact, the 1 is pretty much fully loaded so I paid a good 8 or so grand more than I would have for the Z. Definitely not in the same price range. I could have gotten the 335i coupe if I wanted to, but again, I love the size of the 1 (and we already have a 335i sedan).
 

radiantm3

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But, don't forget, that Z also started out about $1500 cheaper. So, you now have a car with only 50hp more and $2500 more expensive. The VQ engine in the Z can make plenty of power with $2500.

Does torque not mean anything to you? :)

Having owned 2 3-series previously, and a girlfriend with a E92, I guess we will just agree to disagree on what "QUALITY" means to each of us. The entry model BMW never has the stuff it should. Whether that is between models (1 to 3), or within models and their option packages. Maybe the level of materials and fit and finish are more your thing. That is fine. But to me, its the level of equipment. And again, for less $$$ the Z has more.

Quality has nothing to do with how equipped a car is. If that's the case all japanese cars beat out german cars because they are almost always better equipped. If you own a mac, you should know the difference between quality and features. :)

But you need 400hp?
Nobody NEEDS 400hp. I can have it for cheap and still have a reliable car that has a full warranty. Why not? :cool: And it's not that I won't ever track the car. That's just not the purpose of me buying this car. I'm buying it as a daily driver. It gets me from point A to point B, only faster and with a little more fun.
That is entirely your opinion, and perfectly acceptable. If all you want is straight-line speed, sure RWD is preferable. But, to just make the cut-and-dry statement that one is GREAT and the other a POS is leaving a lot of things out. There are MANY cars out there that are FWD with great all-around performance.
It's a fact that a RWD setup is better than FWD for performance driving. That's not to say there aren't FWD cars that handle well. The Mini is one and so is a lot of the cars that come from Honda. Still there's no question that RWD is a better platform for performance.
 
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