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AppleMacNerd

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Yeah. It's the same in The Netherlands. At least, that's how I do it.

That's how it is learn't over here, I'm only 17 and learning to drive but coming very close to when I go in for my test.
It's learnt not to go down the gears and just clutch/brake otherwise your gearbox will knacker so much quicker.
 

macquariumguy

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Jan 7, 2002
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Not what they teach you in the UK :)
If your coming to stop pointless going down through the gears it's un-needed.
Brake, Clutch In - keep in, keep braking, stop, put it in gear neutral or 1 :)

Sounds like a great way to wear out your breaks while reducing the amount of control you have over your car.
 

AppleMacNerd

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Jan 23, 2013
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Sounds like a great way to wear out your breaks while reducing the amount of control you have over your car.

It's how it's we get learnt it in the UK by our driving instructors and how it is learn't in all other EU countries.
You still have control because the clutch is down, you haven't took it out of gear control gets lost when you clutch it and put in neutral while still moving. You'll wear out your gearbox going down the gears more than your brakes :)

Considering all other countries do it this way and not the way yous must learn it in America.
 

Mr-Kerrse

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personally i use gears to slow down & brakes, i like to be in the right gear in case you need to pull out of trouble. I would say going straight down to first is a very odd way of driving !

As for wearing out the gearbox what nonsense :D
 

AppleMacNerd

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When you know your coming to stop you don't need to go down the gears.
However if you come to a junction you usually go 3 > 2 > 1 if you need to stop or 3 > 2 if you don't need to stop at the junction, sometimes you can just go 3 > 1 :) well that's what ive been learnt by a driving instructor
 

AppleMacNerd

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Jan 23, 2013
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That's just silly.

As said the way you learn and told stuff must be completely different in the US compared to UK. Back to pictures of cars it's gone on long enough now! hahah!

I don't own a car yet but wish to own an Audi A1 Black Edition:
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My mum owns a 2013 Audi TT - Black Edition with Amplified Package in White
My dad owns a 2012 BMW 135i in Space Grey (very quick car) 302 BHP standard, with his mods brings it to 410BHP.
 

DGPMaluco

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Not what they teach you in the UK :)
If your coming to stop pointless going down through the gears it's un-needed.
Brake, Clutch In - keep in, keep braking, stop, put it in gear neutral or 1 :)

True, when I'm cruising normally on a daily basis I do it like that... Only when I'm in racing mode ill change my behavior and make all gears count either up or down...

When you need to stop really fast do you falso clutch down each gear? Takes you twice the time then hitting the brake and clutch
 

AppleMacNerd

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Jan 23, 2013
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True, when I'm cruising normally on a daily basis I do it like that... Only when I'm in racing mode ill change my behavior and make all gears count either up or down...

When you need to stop really fast do you falso clutch down each gear? Takes you twice the time then hitting the brake and clutch

On an emergency stop, Brakes on ASAP and clutch at the very last second to stop stalling.
However on a test in the UK if you stall it doesn't matter, your better stalling than putting the clutch in too early :) you will get a minor on your test for putting clutch in too early, you don't get any error for stalling. :)

Very good instructor - UK - Emergency Stop: (sound sometimes goes alittle funny)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nid-YaW0tZY
 
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TPadden

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1990 Ford 5.0 V8 Miata, 42K miles, Monster Motorsport 001, was featured on cover of Autoweek with story and several TV shows, owned since conversion :).

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Rossatron

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Not what they teach you in the UK :)
If your coming to stop pointless going down through the gears it's un-needed.
Brake, Clutch In - keep in, keep braking, stop, put it in gear neutral or 1 :)

well, sure - that will stop your car, but it's not the "smart" way of doing so.
if you shift down, thereby slowing your car, you will save more fuel (you keep the foot off the throttle of course) because you use the energy that the engine already produces, instead of bringing it straight to 0. plus, it allows you to continue your drive more smoothly - and again, save more fuel. say you are coming to red lights. now, if you are shifting down, you could get there with 2nd or 1st already engaged, and if by the time you actually get to the junction the lights have changed, you don't have to start from standstill. i know it sounds a bit tedious and annoying, but once you get used to it, you actually see the fuel savings.

and also: i don't know how things are done in the UK, but over here we say that the driving instructor only teaches you how to pass the test - not how to drive.
 

JoeG4

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Jan 11, 2002
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beautiful car! I was looking at those as well, but heard alot of bad things about the older ones so I kinda of stopped looking at them. Love the black on black!

I can't speak for other people but my car is a close relative (a chrysler 300c) and it has held up excellently over the last 105,000 miles. Not perfectly, but good enough. I won't lie and said I never had a problem, to be exact though:

At around 90,000 miles something started whining - the dealer misdiagnosed it and charged me $900 to replace the power steering pump. I later found out the alternator was the actual problem, and that cost nowhere near as much to replace (at a different shop, mind you).

Honestly, my biggest problem with Chrysler is their dealers. Every single dealer I've been to - and that's 4 of them - eventually come up with some whopper of an expense. One lied and said my steering rack had broken seals and needed replacing (which it didn't - I went to a tire/suspension shop the next day, we got it on the lift and looked at everything and it still looked new!!)

Another said I needed $3000 in repairs. And then there's the one that completely misdiagnosed the issue making me waste $900 to replace a perfectly good PS pump.

The car has been really great though - just lots of little things that keep managing to break, for example I had to replace the trunk latch, the wire connecting it to the car, a door handle (still haven't got around to that), a piece of plastic in the shifter, and the fog light switch.

So I guess there it is. I've heard of people that racked up 100,000 miles on a toyota without even changing the oil (which I don't believe), but I still have no regrets on the car. It was the best option for my family's needs at the time, and was definitely the coolest sedan at the time.

Of course, that's just my opinion lol - which isn't worth much of anything around here XD
 

Ljohnson72

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Dec 21, 2008
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^ someone is living right. Vossens = sex.

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Finally got a picture of the wheels on the car. Taken with my Galaxy SIII so excuse the quality. Not a bad camera for a phone, but doesn't replace my normal camera.

New wheels and exhaust. Sticker on the rear quarter window says 40+ MPG....a little something for the lady in the Prius who decided to be a hater and tell me that I was "******* killing the environment in that thing."

Really?

Thank you! :D


LOL 40+ MPG sticker is great.
 

Menel

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Aug 4, 2011
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Not what they teach you in the UK :)
If your coming to stop pointless going down through the gears it's un-needed.
Brake, Clutch In - keep in, keep braking, stop, put it in gear neutral or 1 :)

This is bad advice.

Gearing down is pointless, only wears synchros and clutch if you are not rev matching perfectly.

Keep clutch engaged, know whats ahead, coast to a stop in your highest gear using brakes only as necessary.

Modern OBDII vehicles cut fuel injectors when in gear, no throttle, and when momentum is keeping engine above idle rpm. Use momentum to keep engine going. Add up free miles.
 

dubels

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Aug 9, 2006
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This is bad advice.

Gearing down is pointless, only wears synchros and clutch if you are not rev matching perfectly.

Keep clutch engaged, know whats ahead, coast to a stop in your highest gear using brakes only as necessary.

Modern OBDII vehicles cut fuel injectors when in gear, no throttle, and when momentum is keeping engine above idle rpm. Use momentum to keep engine going. Add up free miles.

Having lived in bad neighborhoods before and currently living in one I tend to like to leave the car in the best possible gear when I drive a manual. Never know when the light will turn green on you or when the guy will walk up to your car with a gun.
 

tekmoe

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Feb 12, 2005
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I just picked up a slightly used set of wheels, same as the wheels on your car. I had originally gone with the GT500 axle back exhaust, but it was a little too quiet. 2 weeks ago, Flowmaster Outlaw axle back went on, and it is really loud. Sounds like a muscle car now. :)

Very nice. I need to get an exhaust one of these days...
 

iMpathetic

macrumors 68030
Oct 7, 2007
2,547
4
IMBY
Got rid of the S60R after I realized it was pretty hard to maintain when you don't make any money.

Here's what I have now. 2009 Mazda6 3.7L V6.

Mods:
- H&R lowering springs
- Infiniti G35 Coupe staggered 19" wheels on stretched Bridgestone Potenzas
- Rolled and pulled rear fenders
- Injen CAI
- Smoked side markers
- Muffler delete
- Home Depot front lip

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wordoflife

macrumors 604
Jul 6, 2009
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Got rid of the S60R after I realized it was pretty hard to maintain when you don't make any money.

Ahh I remember commenting on your S60 R back in the old thread.
Would you mind telling me more about your S60 R? I've just got an S60 not-R and am just curious about what might occur down the road.

So far I'm experiencing very poor gas mileage (16-17 MPG) and that's turning out to be quite expensive. But I still like it.
 
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