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mjschabow

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Making their product a Verizon exclusive is a problem in America too. I truly wonder how many people have not bought the Pixel out of fear that it won’t work on their non-Verizon network.
 
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jamezr

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Making their product a Verizon exclusive is a problem in America too. I truly wonder how many people have not bought the Pixel out of fear that it won’t work on their non-Verizon network.

^^^^This^^^^ exclusives come back bite you.... you might get some cash upfront. But lose sales all around.
 

AustinIllini

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Oct 20, 2011
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^^^^This^^^^ exclusives come back bite you.... you might get some cash upfront. But lose sales all around.
You get exclusivity because you need to be in a carrier store in the US. Full Stop. If you can't get deals with all the carriers, exclusivity is the next best thing.

The worst by far is to be in zero carrier stores.
 
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jamezr

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You get exclusivity because you need to be in a carrier store in the US. Full Stop. If you can't get deals with all the carriers, exclusivity is the next best thing.

The worst by far is to be in zero carrier stores.
Of course that is the worst case.....
But then after the first year they should have opened it up to other carriers.
To my knowledge AT&T and TMO and Sprint have all said they would have liked to have the P3 on their networks.

Big G is just bad at hardware...they hired a whole team from HTC a couple years back but it seems to not have made a difference.
I hope some of the renders we have seen are the real thing. They were awesome.
 
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Aneres11

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See it's funny because their hardware has always been questionable, but the feel and build quality of the Pixel 3 is really great. Haptics are nice, it's not too thin but thin enough, great screen, FLAT (!) screen ! It's a lovely little package. And at the price I got it for with that camera I'm a very happy buyer.

But for the 4 they need to make it sexier. Plain Jane will only get them so far and that goes for their bare bones stock Android too.
 

Tsepz

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See it's funny because their hardware has always been questionable, but the feel and build quality of the Pixel 3 is really great. Haptics are nice, it's not too thin but thin enough, great screen, FLAT (!) screen ! It's a lovely little package. And at the price I got it for with that camera I'm a very happy buyer.

But for the 4 they need to make it sexier. Plain Jane will only get them so far and that goes for their bare bones stock Android too.

They can do Plain Jane with decent pricing.

I believe people who buy Pixel are mostly people who know Android pretty well and want a stock experience along with a great camera, but I think it gets hard to justify the price when many competitors are bringing a lot more to the table at the same price.

If they could reduce the XL's notch, give both the regular and XL bigger batteries, 6GB RAM, minimum 128GB internal storage and then drop the price by about $200 vs Pixel 3 XL launch price, they could see decent sales. This is all wishful thinking though.
 
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slitherjef

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Wait wait wait... So smart phone sales are down for almost every manufacturer and carrier and they can't figure out why? As if there is some confusion about hiking prices up to ridiculous standards on almost everything for the same basic functionality as previous generations and planned obsolescence has nothing to do with declining sales then mix in a dose of anti consumerism (it's your fault we designed the device to be looked at and not used, that's why the screen broke because swollen batteries yadda yadda yadda) while they try to figure out their issues...:mad:

I may have woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning lol :eek:o_O

Phone makers need to take the power back from the carriers, lower the prices, support their devices, be more friendly to consumers and devs. Nowadays is all about nickel and diming everyone for everything.
 

noobinator

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Jun 19, 2009
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They'll kill the pixel after 2020 is my guess. They will probably come out with another phone with a new name and re-branding similar to what they did with killing the Nexus and introducing the Pixel. One thing's for sure, the name with have an X in it.
 
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AustinIllini

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Of course that is the worst case.....
But then after the first year they should have opened it up to other carriers.
To my knowledge AT&T and TMO and Sprint have all said they would have liked to have the P3 on their networks.

Big G is just bad at hardware...they hired a whole team from HTC a couple years back but it seems to not have made a difference.
I hope some of the renders we have seen are the real thing. They were awesome.
My understanding is the Pixel 4 is the first one developed with that HTC team fully in place.
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Wait wait wait... So smart phone sales are down for almost every manufacturer and carrier and they can't figure out why? As if there is some confusion about hiking prices up to ridiculous standards on almost everything for the same basic functionality as previous generations and planned obsolescence has nothing to do with declining sales then mix in a dose of anti consumerism (it's your fault we designed the device to be looked at and not used, that's why the screen broke because swollen batteries yadda yadda yadda) while they try to figure out their issues...:mad:

I may have woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning lol :eek:o_O

Phone makers need to take the power back from the carriers, lower the prices, support their devices, be more friendly to consumers and devs. Nowadays is all about nickel and diming everyone for everything.
Overall smartphone sales are down, but someone like Google is a small player so they should have plenty of room to grow if they displace older Samsung phones.
 

Aneres11

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Well the Pixel 3 is most definitely a keeper.
I love it.
Such a great phone to use. I'm really pleased I decided to go for the smaller model. I can't tell you how great it is having a smaller phone again. Everything is reachable, it's so nice to use one handed. I have really small hands for a guy though so there is that! :D

I've hardly even taken any photos on it yet either as i just haven't had any interesting trips or scenarios to take any.

My only complaint is the battery life which really does need to be better. And also, I've noticed some slow down on this phone as the battery has got lower. Like some real sluggish response time which I haven't seen on an Android device in a long time.
Not sure why that is, but there we have it.

The only other thing is screen brightness. It simply isn't bright enough. I can live with these things though for all the benefits you get with owning a Pixel. Camera, software updates, reliable fingerprint scanner, great AoD (made even better with ''now playing". Squeezy sides, which I do use daily for Assistant, notifications on par with iOS (in terms of them actually coming through ... Looking at you Samsung, Huawei) and just overall polish. By polish I mean scroll speeds are iPhone like, Samsung need to sort that, default text looks really nice in apps etc.

Great phone. Roll on the 4!
 

jamezr

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Aug 7, 2011
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Well the Pixel 3 is most definitely a keeper.
I love it.
Such a great phone to use. I'm really pleased I decided to go for the smaller model. I can't tell you how great it is having a smaller phone again. Everything is reachable, it's so nice to use one handed. I have really small hands for a guy though so there is that! :D

I've hardly even taken any photos on it yet either as i just haven't had any interesting trips or scenarios to take any.

My only complaint is the battery life which really does need to be better. And also, I've noticed some slow down on this phone as the battery has got lower. Like some real sluggish response time which I haven't seen on an Android device in a long time.
Not sure why that is, but there we have it.

The only other thing is screen brightness. It simply isn't bright enough. I can live with these things though for all the benefits you get with owning a Pixel. Camera, software updates, reliable fingerprint scanner, great AoD (made even better with ''now playing". Squeezy sides, which I do use daily for Assistant, notifications on par with iOS (in terms of them actually coming through ... Looking at you Samsung, Huawei) and just overall polish. By polish I mean scroll speeds are iPhone like, Samsung need to sort that, default text looks really nice in apps etc.

Great phone. Roll on the 4!
Great points! I love my Pixel too it provides a great overall user experience in my opinion.
I have some of the same complaints you do....
The screen is just not bright enough and the battery needs to be bigger
I hope the Pixel 4 adds these things
1) Bigger battery
2) Brighter display ( Samsung maybe?)
3) 6GB of ram
4) Dual Camera system
5) Get rid of the notch...Not a huge deal mind you. But something similar to what Samsung did with the 10+ would be grand!
 
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Aneres11

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Picked up the official black fabric case for my Pixel 3 yesterday. It's nice bit I'll only be putting it on during the week for work etc.

It's a little slippy I find, strangely!

Battery life is a real disappointment with this phone. I'm on 19% currently and I've had 3hrs 50 SoT which is really not that great.

I'll have to plug it in when I get home, I'm at my mum's currently. I can't believe the battery is quite this poor.
 

Cnasty

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Jul 2, 2008
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Waiting to see what comes out at I/O before taking the plunge from iPhone to Pixel.

Hoping to see some good prices, specs, and maybe a preorder bonus or something. Who knows. Also rumored to have the Pixel line come to TMobile so maybe some introductory deal there.

Excited to give this phone an official try finally after wavering for long.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
16,074
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US
May update is downloading and installing...


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Tsepz

macrumors 601
Jan 24, 2013
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I cut to what he disabled...


User solves Pixel performance issues by disabling one of the latest Android features
The user, Trueray17, posted a thread on the Pixel subreddit to share his findings. Initially, he tried all the usual steps often suggested to cleanse your phone from bad influences: factory resets, app removal and so on. He then deduced that the reason must lie within the core software of the Pixel as the issue inevitably reappeared. Eventually, he set his sights on Digital Wellbeing, a feature Google introduced with Android 9 to help people manage better the time they spend on their phones. After turning off Digital Wellbeing’s usage access he noticed an immediate improvement in the phone’s performance.

What’s even better, as a diligent community member, he made a how-to video showing you exactly where to go to turn off said setting. Here it is:
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Pixel-performance-issues-resolved-quick-fix_id115828
 
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co.ag.2005

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Jun 17, 2009
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Picked up the official black fabric case for my Pixel 3 yesterday. It's nice bit I'll only be putting it on during the week for work etc.

It's a little slippy I find, strangely!

Battery life is a real disappointment with this phone. I'm on 19% currently and I've had 3hrs 50 SoT which is really not that great.

I'll have to plug it in when I get home, I'm at my mum's currently. I can't believe the battery is quite this poor.

I had that case early on with my Pixel 3 XL.... it was way too slippery for my liking so I ended up sending it back. I'm not sure why a fabric case was so damn slippery. Maybe it's a coating they put on it to keep it from getting stained easily. I loved the look but felt like I was going to drop my phone every time I held it!
 
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Breaking Good

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Sep 28, 2012
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Is anyone here using a Pixel 3 on Sprint? If so, can you please comment on your experience?

I'm very curious to know if updates come directly from Google or do they have to come through Sprint. Also, I'd like to know if all enhanced calling features work on Sprint.

I'm very interested in acquiring a Pixel 4 to use on Sprint once it is released this fall. But the above are important to me in order to make it worth while.
 

jamezr

macrumors P6
Aug 7, 2011
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Is anyone here using a Pixel 3 on Sprint? If so, can you please comment on your experience?

I'm very curious to know if updates come directly from Google or do they have to come through Sprint. Also, I'd like to know if all enhanced calling features work on Sprint.

I'm very interested in acquiring a Pixel 4 to use on Sprint once it is released this fall. But the above are important to me in order to make it worth while.
I can't speak to the Sprint service....

But all security updates come straight from Google for all Pixels
 

csurfr

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Dec 7, 2016
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Has anyone else put beta three on their Pixel yet? Its surprisingly good. The new full gesture navigation works really well, and I love that it doesn't automatically hop into the app switcher as it did before. Now when you swipe the app drawer up, that's exactly what you get without any of the "stop" for switching apps. Also it seems to be a bit more responsive than P was on the same device.
 
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jamezr

macrumors P6
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Has anyone else put beta three on their Pixel yet? Its surprisingly good. The new full gesture navigation works really well, and I love that it doesn't automatically hop into the app switcher as it did before. Now when you swipe the app drawer up, that's exactly what you get without any of the "stop" for switching apps. Also it seems to be a bit more responsive than P was on the same device.
That does sound great! Maybe time to get the new beta :)
 

Aneres11

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Oct 2, 2011
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Gonna side load it onto my 3a.
Glad they removed that stupid app switch on short swipe. That's the reason I've had a launcher on my Pixel 3 since owning it as I hated that!
 

Aneres11

macrumors 601
Oct 2, 2011
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Curious what launcher are you using?

I swap between Hyperion and Lawnchair Launcher V2. The latter has the Google Now feed on a right swipe so sticking with that for now.

There's just lots of options with it whilst still maintaining a Pixel feel.

Here's how I have it setup currently.

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