I'm more bothered by burn in, really poor viewing angles, being unable to use it in sunlight, and being unable to dim it because the shadow detail is crushed.
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I'm more bothered by burn in, really poor viewing angles, being unable to use it in sunlight, and being unable to dim it because the shadow detail is crushed.
Oh, I agree that it's bad. But if the screen on the 2XL is any indication, it'll be the least of the problems.
We can worry both about bad design and bad quality. Both can affect the user experience.
[doublepost=1532974021][/doublepost]I took a moment to study the gestures in videos of the latest build of Android P and I am still convinced this is a pretty pathetic attempt at "gestures." It's half-hearted and a weird hodge-podge of both pressing and gesturing.
I'm sure this has been stated ad nauseam but Google should have come up with a full gesture-base option that also eliminates the actual navigation bar.
Once again, I point to OnePlus who has not only figured out how to do a notch in a large plus-size phone, but also gestures. If you haven't seen it, look it up. I think it makes far more sense than Android P's attempt and it gives users more screen space by losing the nav bar at the bottom. The iPhone X's way is also better.
Seriously, what is Google doing? I'm not trying to hate on them, but are they trying to make bad decisions?
Google's Pixel direction has the vibe of HTC a couple of years ago -- frustrating and confusing.
[doublepost=1532974021][/doublepost]I took a moment to study the gestures in videos of the latest build of Android P and I am still convinced this is a pretty pathetic attempt at "gestures." It's half-hearted and a weird hodge-podge of both pressing and gesturing.
I'm sure this has been stated ad nauseam but Google should have come up with a full gesture-base option that also eliminates the actual navigation bar.
Once again, I point to OnePlus who has not only figured out how to do a notch in a large plus-size phone, but also gestures. If you haven't seen it, look it up. I think it makes far more sense than Android P's attempt and it gives users more screen space by losing the nav bar at the bottom. The iPhone X's way is also better.
Seriously, what is Google doing? I'm not trying to hate on them, but are they trying to make bad decisions?
Google's Pixel direction has the vibe of HTC a couple of years ago -- frustrating and confusing.
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The biggest problem I've noticed with the gestures is how they're not immediate. You click the home button and it just works instantly. You hit the pill and it's nowhere near instant.
Really? That would be unforgivable if the final build is like that. Maybe the pill is waiting a beat to see if the press was to actually gesture up for the app switcher/drawer.
Either way, this, once again, shows Google's mishmash of pressing and gesturing is a bad idea. I'm also not a fan of the gesture up for app switcher but gesture up longer/further for the app drawer.
Yeah, it's definitely because it has to wait for input. But do you know what doesn't act like that? The iPhone X gesture bar.
It's looking more and more likely that wireless charging will be a feature in the Pixel 3. With the switch to all glass back, we knew there was a good chance this was coming, but at the same time, knowing Google's sometimes baffling and downright idiotic decisions, I'm relieved to see a little more evidence of it:
Google’s “Pixel Stand” Could be a Wireless Charging Stand for Pixel 3
Google’s “Pixel Stand” Could be a Wireless Charging Stand for Pixel 3
Another article from Droid-Life:
I Think I’m Passing on the Pixel 3 XL
Kellen is going for the regular Pixel 3. I suspect many will. I hope Google has enough supply during launch.
I would even take this one step further... If the regular Pixel 3 has any compromising issues with it or has a very high price tag, I would rather get a OnePlus 6T assuming they add wireless charging and continue improving the camera.
In fact, I believe there is a real opportunity for OnePlus to capture frustrated users unhappy with Google's direction this year.
I Think I’m Passing on the Pixel 3 XL
Kellen is going for the regular Pixel 3. I suspect many will. I hope Google has enough supply during launch.
I would even take this one step further... If the regular Pixel 3 has any compromising issues with it or has a very high price tag, I would rather get a OnePlus 6T assuming they add wireless charging and continue improving the camera.
In fact, I believe there is a real opportunity for OnePlus to capture frustrated users unhappy with Google's direction this year.
I hear you. I went through a few Pixels, finally got one that mostly got it right. However, the display tech Google used was pretty dreadful. Especially when using it compared to the iPhone X or a Sammy. Google is charging premium prices for these phones, they really don't have an out on QC issues.
Also, I forget which one, but a tech blog mentioned the oleophobic coating is pretty bad. Agreed 100%. There are times I don't even want to use it because the screen doesn't even "feel" good to the touch.
Honestly, that sounds horrible. That should be unacceptable at, as you say, premium prices.
That's why I act the way I do. It's not that I like the notch, it's that the Pixel line hasn't even mastered the basics of a premium smartphone.
Personally, I don't think people who are waiting for a Pixel 3 and end up being disappointed will turn to the One Plus 6.
I could be way off, but I imagine most people will go for a Pixel because of the renowned good camera. The One Plus just can't compete in that department, sadly.
Also, isn't everyone still off them for being worried about data security or something?
Hopefully the regular Pixel 3 will be the one!
The software is there. (Although I do not like their new gesture system.). I wish Google would showcase it in a legit premium handset.
You should be able to disable the notch in settings. The you're just left with a big bezel.
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It's an aesthetic that doesn't look very good, IMO, but I disagree that it affects usability.
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I'm hoping the whole notch thing is just a fad that goes away soon. There are some awesome phones now that have hardly any bezel at all.
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It's an aesthetic that doesn't look very good, IMO, but I disagree that it affects usability.
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I'm hoping the whole notch thing is just a fad that goes away soon. There are some awesome phones now that have hardly any bezel at all.
I turned off the gestures when somebody pointed out that the buttons were instant. I like the gestures overall, but they're not baked completely. Also, I'm going to ride out the Pixel 2XL until it stops getting software updates.
If the Pixel isn't great by then, I'm taking my ball and going to a different Android phone. Or I might like that year's iPhone and move over to them. Who knows?
All the top smartphones across all the top companies are incredibly good smartphones. As much as we discuss our nitpicks here, there's no denying we're at a point where you can pick Apple, Samsung, Google, and a few others and get a great overall experience.
Agree with the bolded.
That’s why I am 100% all in on iOS for my smartphone usage. It’s not by ideal choice, rather it’s a decision with the least compromises.
Ok, no headphone jack and it’s behind in some software features. But I get: display tech, good battery life, tons of software support, good post purchase support, a better smartwatch experience, iMessage, FaceTime, etc.
Google gives me the software, but not the hardware I want. I am not spending hundreds of dollars for the QC issues or compromises they seek to make.
I would love to switch back to Pure Android on my next upgrade but Googles Hardware is just rubbish, they should get Samsung to build the Hardware for them.
My work phone is an iPhone 7. I don't use it much throughout the day, but every time I do it makes me more happy for my S8. I read comments such as yours and feel very disconnected from that mindset because I don't envy anything about iOS or iPhone compared to Android and my S8. I do look forward to going back to pure Android for my next device, but I can't think of anything that makes iOS software or iPhone hardware more desirable when I'm using it. Then again, even when I was 100% iOS I kept iMessage and Facetime turned off and never wanted it, so it looks like our needs are different there.
Google should at least offer software to black out the top:
The software would have to mimic the rounded edges of the bottom bezel for symmetry, too. All this just to gain that tiny little .1 or .2 extra screen space that a notification bar would take up while sacrificing actual space for notification icons and other bits of information, all of which would be blacked out anyway during full screen mode.
The notch is not worth it.
I'm ready for some Pixel 3 leaks...
The software would have to mimic the rounded edges of the bottom bezel for symmetry, too. All this just to gain that tiny little .1 or .2 extra screen space that a notification bar would take up while sacrificing actual space for notification icons and other bits of information, all of which would be blacked out anyway during full screen mode.
The notch is not worth it.
I'm ready for some Pixel 3 leaks...
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I agree wholeheartedly.....imho the notch does not offer any functionality. It is a purely aesthetic design option.Google should at least offer software to black out the top:
The software would have to mimic the rounded edges of the bottom bezel for symmetry, too. All this just to gain that tiny little .1 or .2 extra screen space that a notification bar would take up while sacrificing actual space for notification icons and other bits of information, all of which would be blacked out anyway during full screen mode.
The notch is not worth it.
At least on the Android side of things.....they should offer a software option to eliminate the notch.
I am really hoping the notch design path fades away as smartphone design evolves.
Can it really be just purely aesthetics when it's so ugly?
Jokes aside, there is functionality, but so little and so compromising that it renders notches unworthy. I asked this question earlier, isn't a six inch display enough on a Plus-size phone already! And what more does .1 or .2 add anyway, especially when it'd be blacked out during full screen mode.
Let's face it, the idea of the "ears" giving you more screen space is just Apple-spin to push a large notch that houses FaceID. Doing notches for "more screen space" is not worth it.
[doublepost=1533050578][/doublepost]Here's another question: will Android developers move as quickly as iOS developers to update their apps to support notches?