Pixel 3/Pixel 3 XL

[Blaze4G]

Saw a post by gsmarena of a leaked image with the pixel 3xl having a 1080p screen. So does that mean a price reduction?

Does that mean a pixel ultra with a 2k display will be announced?

 

[epicrayban]

Should have just put big bezels and be done with it all.

Seriously. If Google wants to stick to their guns on front firing speakers, fine, but they gain virtually nothing by going about it with a notch.

Screen sizes are big enough without a notch. We don't need the "ears" to get that extra .2 mm or so of screen. No one is looking at their Note 9, for example, and wishing it had .2 mm of extra screen with a notch.

For a couple of mm of screen, we now have to deal with a deep notch that not only obstructs the screen and throws the entire phone's front design out of balance, it actually takes away notification icons and status bar info (like battery %). Also, when you go into full screen mode for games or videos, you either black out the top bars anyway (creating a fake full-bezel) or you have to deal with a notch intruding on your view.

Notches are an absurd trend. Google just took it to another level of ugly. All for literally a couple of millimeters of "additional" screen space.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Saw a post by gsmarena of a leaked image with the pixel 3xl having a 1080p screen. So does that mean a price reduction?

Does that mean a pixel ultra with a 2k display will be announced?

Considering that we've already seen from prior leaked units that the display is 1440p, I think this is a typo on the leaked promo material.

 

[epicrayban]

Saw a post by gsmarena of a leaked image with the pixel 3xl having a 1080p screen. So does that mean a price reduction?

Does that mean a pixel ultra with a 2k display will be announced?

Part of the conspiracy theory of a third device is a mid-range device.

They could be pulling an 'iPhone XR' and not necessarily an Ultra Pixel.

 

[Tsepz]

Seriously. If Google wants to stick to their guns on front firing speakers, fine, but they gain virtually nothing by going about it with a notch.

Screen sizes are big enough without a notch. We don't need the "ears" to get that extra .2 mm or so of screen. For a couple of mm of screen, we now have to deal with a deep notch that not only obstructs the screen and throws the entire phone's front design out of balance, it actually takes away notification icons and status bar info (like battery %).

Also, when you go into full screen mode for games or videos, you either black out the top bars anyway (creating a fake full-bezel) or you have to deal with a notch intruding on your view. It's absurd.

Notches are an absurd trend. Google just took it to another level of ugly. All for literally a couple of millimeters of "additional" screen space.

Mate! 100% agreed!

Have you ever watched the movie 'Idiocracy'? I feel like we have hit that point in the smartphone world.

What gets me is how people try justify this stupid notch, even Apple are embarrassed of it, their press pictures of the iPhone X S and X S Max have a wallpaper that hides it yet when you play a game or browse the web that crap is sitting right there in your screen.

Glad some OEMs have made ways to hide it throughout the UI.

 

[epicrayban]

Mate! 100% agreed!

Have you ever watched the movie 'Idiocracy'? I feel like we have hit that point in the smartphone world.

What gets me is how people try justify this stupid notch, even Apple are embarrassed of it, their press pictures of the iPhone X S and X S Max have a wallpaper that hides it yet when you play a game or browse the web that crap is sitting right there in your screen.

Glad some OEMs have made ways to hide it throughout the UI.

Idiocracy is a great film. The joke today is that it's a film that's quickly becoming a documentary (for reasons beyond smartphone notches, of course! Ha).


Regarding the rest of your comment, I think people who argue for the notch don't have their sense of pros and cons straight. They don't realize that they're arguing for millimeters of screen space, while also failing to properly evaluate the cons: that a notch is not only ugly, it's actually intrusive to the smartphone experience. Users "forget" it's there because they have no choice but to get used to it.

Sadly, one day, all major flagships may have a notch.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Idiocracy is a great film. The joke today is that it's a film that's quickly becoming a documentary (for reasons beyond smartphone notches, of course! Ha).


Regarding the rest of your comment, I think people who argue for the notch don't have their sense of pros and cons straight. They don't realize that they're arguing for millimeters of screen space, while also failing to properly evaluate the cons: that a notch is not only ugly, it's actually intrusive to the smartphone experience. Users "forget" it's there because they have no choice but to get used to it.

Sadly, one day, all major flagships may have a notch.

To me the most important thing is that it looks proportionate. I've always disliked phones that have bezels that are noticeably different sizes. Even the smaller Pixel 3 isn't perfectly proportionate. A notch throws off the whole appearance of the front of the phone. If it can be disabled, then it's not as big of a deal, for me anyway. I've never owned a device with a notch, though.

 

[Aneres11]

It seems silly that they would go to all that trouble in that video they posted with the clips of the tech YouTubers for them to not be trolling.

I will be eagerly watching tomorrow but if it transpires that it’s no different to the leaks and they’re just playing on them to generate “hype” then they can frankly go suck a fat one haha. Excuse that terminology. But yeah.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

It seems silly that they would go to all that trouble in that video they posted with the clips of the tech YouTubers for them to not be trolling.

I will be eagerly watching tomorrow but if it transpires that it’s no different to the leaks and they’re just playing on them to generate “hype” then they can frankly go suck a fat one haha. Excuse that terminology. But yeah.

I too will be eagerly watching tomorrow, but I can't imagine they could pull off something secret. At this point it feels more like gaslighting since they're implying that we don't truly know what they've got planned, even though it appears as if we do.

All of those doodles they posted on Instagram over the last few days even come across as the works of someone who is somewhat unhinged. This whole thing is just weird.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BojodQDBgk4/?taken-by=madebygoogle
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoiMHAOhato/?taken-by=madebygoogle
https://www.instagram.com/p/BodBZRRAK39/?taken-by=madebygoogle

 

[pixelultra]

That is having a notch for the purpose of having a notch.

That's a whole lot of notch for one man. Should have just put big bezels and be done with it all.

 

[Ralfi]

Screen sizes are big enough without a notch. We don't need the "ears" to get that extra .2 mm or so of screen. No one is looking at their Note 9, for example, and wishing it had .2 mm of extra screen with a notch.

Ok, if done right (as Apple did with the X), then you gain useful space on the top & bottom of the phone. That all adds up, especially in an App like Google Maps which just added embedded Music controls. The music controls take up too much space imo, but because of the extra space above & below that the notch/bezel-free design allows, you still have decent enough screen real-estate for the actual map details.

it actually takes away notification icons and status bar info

With how deep the XL3 notch is, they should be fitting 3 rows of icons in each ear. FFS Google, at least make good use of the ears!

 

[epicrayban]

More leaks confirming what we already know. Not even worth sharing at this point.

Looking forward to the show tomorrow so we can learn about the few remaining details. I'm not expecting an ultra Pixel.

 

[epicrayban]

A new Russian review, same guy but new video:

https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-xl-foreign-review-911606/

You get to see quite a bit more of the device from lots of angles. Turn on the closed captioning.

He says no way to hide the notch, btw, at least on his software version. Will Google put it in if there is enough backlash? I wonder...

 

[Lobwedgephil]

I'm conflicted as I usually order this phone sight unseen, but man the XL still looks terrible. Of course a badass presentation could still get me.

 

[Tsepz]

Idiocracy is a great film. The joke today is that it's a film that's quickly becoming a documentary (for reasons beyond smartphone notches, of course! Ha).


Regarding the rest of your comment, I think people who argue for the notch don't have their sense of pros and cons straight. They don't realize that they're arguing for millimeters of screen space, while also failing to properly evaluate the cons: that a notch is not only ugly, it's actually intrusive to the smartphone experience. Users "forget" it's there because they have no choice but to get used to it.

Sadly, one day, all major flagships may have a notch.

Indeed. It's actually hilarious. Anyway, hopefully OEMs like Samsung and OPPO continue to find ways to avoid having it there.

It's not in anyway useful and nobody has implemented a notch properly, as it is a design flaw people have had to accept.

I mean just look at this crap, it's like Dead Pixels on the left of the screen.

 

[Macalicious2011]

Colour me very excited about the below. Google are killing it with camera innovation and competitors including Apple will struggle to keep up.

• Top Shot will work by taking a burst of photos before and after you press the shutter and picking the best one.

• Photobooth will analyze photos you take of either yourself or others and pick out the ones it thinks are the most photogenic.

• Other camera features that leaked include a new zoom option called “super res zoom” that could use AI to fill in detail when zooming in close to a subject using the Pixel 3.

• There will also reportedly be a subject-tracking focus mode, so you don’t have to re-focus the Pixel 3 camera by tapping the screen.

Source: The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...ast-minute-pink-sand-color-ai-camera-features

 

[JaySoul]

I too will be eagerly watching tomorrow, but I can't imagine they could pull off something secret. At this point it feels more like gaslighting since they're implying that we don't truly know what they've got planned, even though it appears as if we do.

All of those doodles they posted on Instagram over the last few days even come across as the works of someone who is somewhat unhinged. This whole thing is just weird.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BojodQDBgk4/?taken-by=madebygoogle
https://www.instagram.com/p/BoiMHAOhato/?taken-by=madebygoogle
https://www.instagram.com/p/BodBZRRAK39/?taken-by=madebygoogle

No I thought it was quite funny. Not wholly necessary but a bit cheeky.
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Colour me very excited about the below. Google are killing it with camera innovation and competitors including Apple will struggle to keep up.

• Top Shot will work by taking a burst of photos before and after you press the shutter and picking the best one.

• Photobooth will analyze photos you take of either yourself or others and pick out the ones it thinks are the most photogenic.

• Other camera features that leaked include a new zoom option called “super res zoom” that could use AI to fill in detail when zooming in close to a subject using the Pixel 3.

• There will also reportedly be a subject-tracking focus mode, so you don’t have to re-focus the Pixel 3 camera by tapping the screen.

Source: The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...ast-minute-pink-sand-color-ai-camera-features

Ugh this sounds annoyingly good!!

 

[Zackmd1]

Verizon is hinting at a starting price for the 3 non-XL at $799..... That would be a no go for me on so many levels. Anything more then a $700 starting price is a no go IMO. The design does not justify the price increase unlike how it sort of does with the iPhone (no other phone currently available in the US has a uniform bezel as far as I know) and the fact that a pixel has not become a status symbol like the iPhone has. Don't take it as I am saying any phone has a justified price tag around $1000 but the pixel 3 from what we have seen is no where near able to be justified for any price increase over last year IMO.

 

[Ralfi]

It's not in anyway useful and nobody has implemented a notch properly, as it is a design flaw people have had to accept.

Ok, you need to accept that there are people in the world who primarily use their phone in portrait mode & are seeing great benefits from the notch in a one-hand-friendly device.

Pixel 3 XL seems to have ignored half of those benefits by sticking with a massive form factor...such a waste.

1am local time is the Pixel show... I'll read all about it hours later. Pull that rabbit out of the hat, Google...

 

[Tsepz]

Ok, you need to accept that there are people in the world who primarily use their phone in portrait mode & are seeing great benefits from the notch in a one-hand-friendly device.

Pixel 3 XL seems to have ignored half of those benefits by sticking with a massive form factor...such a waste.

1am local time is the Pixel show... I'll read all about it hours later. Pull that rabbit out of the hat, Google...

Really? "great benefits"? How are these being measured exactly? What are these great benefits???

We had great one-hand-friendly devices before the notch and we will have plenty more after the stupid thing goes away.

 

[Tig Bitties]

The notch should be half the size on the 3 XL, then it wouldn't be so bad.

With such a large notch the phone better have something like FaceID to make it acceptable.

 

[Macalicious2011]

The notch should be half the size on the 3 XL, then it wouldn't be so bad.

At this point they might as well have kept the body and screen of the Pixel2 XL and just chucked in new internal. Apple have done it for the iPhone Xs and Samsung for the S9.

There's no need to force a new design for a sake of it.

With such a large notch the phone better have something like FaceID to make it acceptable.

The Pixel 2 already has face unlock but is moot given the speed and convenience of the finger print unlock.

 

[Tig Bitties]

At this point they might as well have kept the body and screen of the Pixel2 XL and just chucked in new internal. Apple have done it for the iPhone Xs and Samsung for the S9.

There's no need to force a new design for a sake of it.



The Pixel 2 already has face unlock but is moot given the speed and convenience of the finger print unlock.

Good point, Apple is famous for the exact same design a couple years in a row, but with updated next gen hardware and other upgrades internally. Google could have save themselves the headache and just made a Pixel 2 XL S, and name it the Nexus 9P and sell it for $599, which is what stock Android phones should be selling at like OnePlus and Nexus.

If the Pixel 3 XL is near $1,000 LOL HAHA then they have lost their minds at Google. Yes they'll claim it sold out right away, but not due to popular demand, but because they probably only manufactured a few thousand at launch, knowing this phone will be a dud.

$1,000 for the 3 XL, when the 2 XL is so similar and much cheaper. At the end of the day the SD835 vs SD845 is not night and day difference, really very minimal performance difference in real world use. The Pixel 2 XL still today is ranked as one of the top smartphone cameras out, and the phone is a year old, so 2 XL still has a great camera. Battery life will prob be about the same, so no upgrade there. RAM is the same, so no upgrade there.

At the end of the day what is the major huge difference worth upgrading to the 3 XL from the 2 X ?

 

[epicrayban]

A lot of the camera features don't sound new (didn't the S7 have the auto re-focus thing, for example?), but Google's algorithms could give it the edge.


[doublepost=1539094355][/doublepost]The Verizon leaked starting price of $799 for the regular Pixel 3 is worrisome to me. That would be a $150 price increase from the Pixel 2. Remember I said "barring any unforeseen deal-breaking news out of Google..."? This would be one of them.

Oh, Google.

 

[Macalicious2011]

A lot of the camera features don't sound new, but Google's algorithms could give it the edge.

Please list phones that have all the new camera features. The Pixel 2 certainly doesn't have them.

Google could have save themselves the headache and just made a Pixel 2 XL S, and name it the Nexus 9P and sell it for $599, which is what stock Android phones should be selling at like OnePlus and Nexus.

That's not fair way of valuing the immense effort and intelligence that Google's AI software engineers put into the the camera. It's a very expensive workforce to employ and coordinate to create features that are genuinely revolutionary.

Remember that lots of companies use AI and machine learning as buzz words but fail to put them to practical use.