Possible major blow for Huawei Smartphones

[Tsepz]

lol ...what is sad...is that you obviously did not read the articles that I posted...or you would not equivocate the 2 companies

I didn’t have to when POTUS is prepared to forget it all.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Lol, the sad part here is that it’s acceptable that they both have these issues and we are talking about what is worse than the other, which is a useless argument altogether at the end of the day.

If we ignore the bribery, Samsung have been found guilty of violating some patents, however Apple and others have also been found guilty of violating patents. What Huwawei did is on a completely different level.

 

[jamezr]

I didn’t have to when POTUS is prepared to forget it all.

lol ...so you were just trying to derail the thread then by bring up Samsung like that in the Huawei thread
Then like I said they have civil and federal lawsuits against them for the theft of IP in the articles you didn't read

 

[Tsepz]

lol ...so you were just trying to derail the thread then by bring up Samsung like that in the Huawei thread
Then like I said they have civil and federal lawsuits against them for the theft of IP in the articles you didn't read

Nope, just pointing out that nobody is innocent in this game.

 

[jamezr]

Samsung copied aspects of the iPhone once it was already on the market and out there for everyone to see. Huawei are stealing technology before it comes to market and then trying to pass it off as their own work. They stole the folding screen technology from Samsung. A technology Samsung had been working on for years and years.

That is a great point!

I think they all copy and "borrow" design features from products already released.

But to send people to work for another company for the sole purpose of stealing their technology then producing the same products for 30% less and undercutting their market space is criminal.

 

[Healer Flame]

That is a great point!

I think they all copy and "borrow" design features from products already released.

But to send people to work for another company for the sole purpose of stealing their technology then producing the same products for 30% less and undercutting their market space is criminal.

Huawie is innocent until proven guilty, lets hear their side of the story, do you Trust Tramp? I don't.
[doublepost=1558887220][/doublepost]http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-05/20/c_138074690.htm

 

[michael9891]

Huawie is innocent until proven guilty, lets hear their side of the story, do you Trust Tramp? I don't.

I'm pretty sure this has all been proven. But that's not why Trump has put them on the entity list. Nor are the reasons he's officially given.

 

[Healer Flame]

I'm pretty sure this has all been proven. But that's not why Trump has put them on the entity list. Nor are the reasons he's officially given.

Then why........

https://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/trumps-seriously-misguided-ban-on-huawei-201905261603
[doublepost=1558887531][/doublepost]I have strong feeling Trump is rushing.

 

[Tsepz]

Huawie is innocent until proven guilty, lets hear their side of the story, do you Trust Tramp? I don't.
[doublepost=1558887220][/doublepost]http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-05/20/c_138074690.htm

It’s a whole lot of hypocrisy going on around Huawei,but they are suffering due to politics, it’s a real shame.

Anyway, time to grab our popcorn and get ready for this upcoming weeks drama

Keeping an eye on POTUS personal Twitter page is nothing short of entertaining.

Hoping for Android Q Beta to arrive for my P30 Pro soon.

 

[5105973]

I’ve read all the posts and while there’s some I want to thumbs up, we are probably getting too PRSI and I don’t want to see this thread shut down. Huawei may be dead in the water for now, but some aspects of what they brought to the table are too enticing to just let go. So moving right along...

One thing that Huawei brought to the table first, regardless of how they might have been able to do it, is that super zoom lens technology. Unfortunately, due to things in real life getting in the way, I haven’t been able to read or view video in any depth to get a sense of what that technology actually is.

Is it heavily patented? Are Samsung and Apple and others now going to be hamstrung trying to get the same tech out in their phones, due to not being able to license whatever it was that Huawei has done?

Or is it a general concept any of them can implement in their own non-infringing ways?

Also, as I saw with my husband’s P20 Pro, their night vision photography is still ahead of the pack, even compared to what my Pixel 3XL can do. How the hell did they do it?

 

[michael9891]

Then why........

https://www.fxstreet.com/analysis/trumps-seriously-misguided-ban-on-huawei-201905261603
[doublepost=1558887531][/doublepost]I have strong feeling Trump is rushing.

I think you’re confusing things. What’s been proven and gone through the courts is Huawei stealing from other manufacturers.

The reason for the ban (which as far as I know hasn’t been proven) is because the US government think Huawei are using it’s devices to spy on consumers. Two totally different things.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think you’re confusing things. What’s been proven and gone through the courts is Huawei stealing from other manufacturers.

The reason for the ban (which as far as I know hasn’t been proven) is because the US government think Huawei are using it’s devices to spy on consumers. Two totally different things.

Agreed. The stealing is cut and dried. The spying hasn’t been proving yet so I’d give them the benefit of the doubt on that. However when you take it all into account they don’t seem that trustworthy to me.

 

[Tsepz]

 

[jamezr]

Agreed. The stealing is cut and dried. The spying hasn’t been proving yet so I’d give them the benefit of the doubt on that. However when you take it all into account they don’t seem that trustworthy to me.

I think a lot of this is very political and a bargaining chip.
But all the IP and technology theft is very well documented. The shady business practices and theft make Huawei a very untrustworthy company imho too.

 

[Tsepz]

Forget Trump, Will Have Tea At 10 Downing Street: Huawei CEO

"In sectors where we have the most advanced technologies, at least in the 5G sector, there won't be much impact. Not just that, our competitors won't be able to catch up with us within two to three years," said a beaming Zhengfei.

"Even if there is an insufficient supply from our partners, we will face no problems. This is because we can manufacture all the high-end chips we need ourselves," he added.

The company believes in 1+1 policy - half of its chips come from US companies and half from Huawei.

"Despite the much lower costs of our own chips, I would still buy higher-priced chips from the US. We cannot be isolated from the world. Instead, we should become part of it. These relationships won't be destroyed by a piece of paper from the US government," Zhengfei told the Chinese media.

Anticipating a US backlash, the company's subsidiary HiSilicon which makes the Kirin chipsets for Huawei phones, has been reportedly stockpiling components and is confident about a steady supply of most products.

Another critical front where Huawei can see its market share slip significantly if it does not get Google's support for myriad of products like Maps, Search, YouTube and Play Store, without which, the life can't be imagined.

"Google is a good company - a highly responsible company. They are also trying to persuade the US government to solve this problem. We are both finding solutions and discussing possible remedies," said the Huawei ECO.

To mitigate the effects of the Google Android ban, Huawei has reportedly been working on its custom HongMeng operating system but it is in early days.

"We will certainly be able to continue serving our customers. Our mass production capacity is huge, and adding Huawei to the Entity List won't have a huge impact on us. We are making progress in bidding worldwide.

"Our growth will slow down, though not by as much as everyone imagines. In the first quarter of this year, our revenue grew 39 per cent over the same period last year. This rate may continue decreasing towards the end of this year. But the US ban will not lead to negative growth or harm the development of our industry," he hoped.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/for...says-huawei-ceo-ren-zhengfei-2043203?&tb_cb=1

 

[jamezr]

there is just so much out there to read...

Huawei appears to be sending data from its new P30 Pro handset via Chinese servers, thus suggesting its relationship with the Chinese government might be a bit closer than we thought, though probably about what some expected.

The report comes from a Taiwanese paper which talks of a handset purchased in Thailand. On testing, it was found that a number of calls were being made, strictly under the bonnet, to servers in mainland China.


ExploitwareLabs collated and published a list of those DNS numbers and they make fairly damning reading. They include sites registered to the China Ministry of Public Security, and the government blowhole the China Internet Information Centre.

https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...dset-sent-data-to-mainland-china-on-the-quiet

 

[michael9891]

there is just so much out there to read...



https://www.theinquirer.net/inquire...dset-sent-data-to-mainland-china-on-the-quiet

I better delete the hundreds of dick pics I take then. lol

 

[jamezr]

I better delete the hundreds of dick pics I take then. lol

LOL...i almost spit my coffee all over my macbook pro.....
That Sir was well done!

 

[Healer Flame]

I think you’re confusing things. What’s been proven and gone through the courts is Huawei stealing from other manufacturers.

The reason for the ban (which as far as I know hasn’t been proven) is because the US government think Huawei are using it’s devices to spy on consumers. Two totally different things.

No no i am not confusing things. I know Huawei is being accused of stealing and espionage risk. All i am saying is lets not be irrational without knowing the full outcome of the ongoing investigation.
[doublepost=1558927589][/doublepost]So the people who bought Huawei phones are they eligible for full refund if things got worse?

 

[lavrishevo]

I better delete the hundreds of dick pics I take then. lol

And turn off the beauty filter... We all know it's not that pretty in real life.

 

[michael9891]

No no i am not confusing things. I know Huawei is being accused of stealing and espionage risk. All i am saying is lets not be irrational without knowing the full outcome of the ongoing investigation.
[doublepost=1558927589][/doublepost]So the people who bought Huawei phones are they eligible for full refund if things got worse?

We won't get a refund. So far, the only thing current owners miss out on is future versions of Android.

 

[Vegastouch]

Wow interesting but what about Samsung stealing almost everything what apple invented.

Well,.... Apple "invented" nothing! They took things others started and made it better but they didn't invent squat. Weren't the first phone to even have icons,.. That was Samsung.
It's funny how Apple sued SS for things like a soapbar shape, same rounded corners, look similar to iPhones, etc.... While they were doing things that others did first as well. This has been talked about to death but to say Apple invented anything is really a joke. Apple is copying things in iOS that Android has had for years.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Let us not forget this

https://www.theguardian.com/technol...ered-advertisements-samsung-did-not-copy-ipad

 

[Healer Flame]

Well,.... Apple "invented" nothing! They took things others started and made it better but they didn't invent squat. Weren't the first phone to even have icons,.. That was Samsung.
It's funny how Apple sued SS for things like a soapbar shape, same rounded corners, look similar to iPhones, etc.... While they were doing things that others did first as well. This has been talked about to death but to say Apple invented anything is really a joke. Apple is copying things in iOS that Android has had for years.

Yes like i said before the credit should go to Motorola who invented mobile phones in 1973.
But, apple played a huge role developing the magic of touch screen.

 

[Shanghaichica]