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Planey28

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Lol the things people moan about on here. This forum is going further and further down the can.

It takes less effort since you don't have to swipe across a screen anymore. You'll get used to the new method and then when it's changed to unlock with thought in iOS 20 or whatever comes along then you'll moan about how press home to unlock was the pinnacle of iOS and Apple are going to die because they changed it.
 

lagwagon

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Lol the things people moan about on here. This forum is going further and further down the can.

It takes less effort since you don't have to swipe across a screen anymore. You'll get used to the new method and then when it's changed to unlock with thought in iOS 20 or whatever comes along then you'll moan about how press home to unlock was the pinnacle of iOS and Apple are going to die because they changed it.

Makes you wonder if some of these people are just as picky in day to day life. Like going to a restaurant, having their dinner served on a square plate. And complaining they prefer round plates, and that the original owner would have never used square plates.
 

ZEEN0j

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Just installed iOS 10 on my iPad. I can still from lockscreen press home buttons once and hold to unlock. No need to double press. And when getting a notification and the screen lights up. You can slide the notification and just hold the Touch ID button without ever pressing.
 

C DM

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Makes you wonder if some of these people are just as picky in day to day life. Like going to a restaurant, having their dinner served on a square plate. And complaining they prefer round plates, and that the original owner would have never used square plates.
The standards are clearly slipping there with those square plates. ;)
 

JoEw

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Anyone else think it's clearing the way for the iPhone 8 where you won't use the home button but instead press your finger onto the notification to unlock "secure" functionality?
This change is very elegant when the home button suddenly disappears.
 

Brandon0448

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I don't see what the big deal is here. Touch ID works almost exactly the same as it did in iOS 9. If you press the home button to turn on the screen and keep your thumb there it will instantly unlock the phone just like it did in iOS 9, there is no double press required like some have suggested.

If the screen is already on before you press your thumb on the Touch ID sensor is the only time you have to then press the button in to get the phone to unlock. Which is really nice because it prevents accidentally unlocking your phone if you rest your thumb on the sensor while trying to check the notifications. I don't know how many times I have accidentally unlocked my phone when I just wanted to read the notifications because I am so use to resting my thumb on the home button.

People will literally complain about anything different even if it is for the better. They would not have been able to have the second page of widgets unless they got rid of slide to unlock.
 
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mpavilion

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Just installed iOS 10 on my iPad. I can still from lockscreen press home buttons once and hold to unlock. No need to double press. And when getting a notification and the screen lights up. You can slide the notification and just hold the Touch ID button without ever pressing.

But can you hold Touch ID and go to home screen without sliding any notification? Seems like that is the loss that some folks here are lamenting.
 

Pspressart

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I don't see what the big deal is here. Touch ID works almost exactly the same as it did in iOS 9. If you press the home button to turn on the screen and keep your thumb there it will instantly unlock the phone just like it did in iOS 9, there is no double press required like some have suggested.

If the screen is already on before you press your thumb on the Touch ID sensor is the only time you have to then press the button in to get the phone to unlock. Which is really nice because it prevents accidentally unlocking your phone if you rest your thumb on the sensor while trying to check the notifications. I don't know how many times I have accidentally unlocked my phone when I just wanted to read the notifications because I am so use to resting my thumb on the home button.

People will literally complain about anything different even if it is for the better. They would not have been able to have the second page of widgets unless they got rid of slide to unlock.
I have a 6S running the iOS 10 public beta. I have "raise to wake" turned on. If I lightly press the home button, the screen will turn on and show notifications, if there are any. If I firmly press the home button, it will unlock and go to the springboard. To me, it is better than iOS 9
But can you hold Touch ID and go to home screen without sliding any notification? Seems like that is the loss that some folks here are lamenting.
Yes, you can. When I firmly press the home button on my 6S, it goes to the home screen, whether or not there are notifications.
 

mpavilion

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I have a 6S running the iOS 10 public beta. I have "raise to wake" turned on. If I lightly press the home button, the screen will turn on and show notifications, if there are any. If I firmly press the home button, it will unlock and go to the springboard. To me, it is better than iOS 9

Yes, you can. When I firmly press the home button on my 6S, it goes to the home screen, whether or not there are notifications.

Sounds like the difference is having to "firmly press" the home button? I admit this doesn't seem hard to get used to (we'll see...), but it is a change from iOS 9.
 

dotnet

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I don't see what the big deal is here. Touch ID works almost exactly the same as it did in iOS 9. If you press the home button to turn on the screen and keep your thumb there it will instantly unlock the phone just like it did in iOS 9, there is no double press required like some have suggested.

This may be the case during your extensive testing with a sample size of one. Unfortunately, it is not the case for everybody.

People will literally complain about anything different even if it is for the better.

No, its just that you don't get it because you're not affected by this bug. For those who are this is a big annoyance indeed.

They would not have been able to have the second page of widgets unless they got rid of slide to unlock.

Slide to unlock (or lack of) is not the issue here, I haven't used that in nearly two years.
 

Brandon0448

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This may be the case during your extensive testing with a sample size of one. Unfortunately, it is not the case for everybody.

No, its just that you don't get it because you're not affected by this bug. For those who are this is a big annoyance indeed.

Slide to unlock (or lack of) is not the issue here, I haven't used that in nearly two years.

People were complaining about the new feature of press to unlock, not a bug with it. It is literally in the title of the thread. If you are being affected by a bug then report it to Apple and move on, complaining about it on a public forum will accomplish nothing. You are using a beta operating system, bugs are to be expected. If you don't want to deal with bugs go back to iOS 9.
 

dotnet

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People were complaining about the new feature of press to unlock, not a bug with it. It is literally in the title of the thread. If you are being affected by a bug then report it to Apple and move on, complaining about it on a public forum will accomplish nothing. You are using a beta operating system, bugs are to be expected. If you don't want to deal with bugs go back to iOS 9.

Well, that's what you get for replying without reading the thread. If you had done the latter you would have found that press to unlock is not the issue (it's been in iOS for a while), but an extra unnecessary press that some people have to perform. In order words, a regression from iOS 9's press to unlock.

And if you had read the thread you would have also learned that I concluded from the discussion that this must be a bug affecting some devices, and that I reported it to Apple.

Forgot to add: "Press home to open" (the title of this thread) is not the same as press to unlock. It refers to the message at the bottom of the screen that you're shown when you were expecting to see the home screen (springboard).
 
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lagwagon

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No, its just that you don't get it because you're not affected by this bug. For those who are this is a big annoyance indeed.

Reboot your device. I have had straight to home screen behaviours stop on me a couple days ago for the first time ever since hour one of developer beta 1. It took a few reboots to bring back the typical behaviour we all know from past iOS's. So before go off on tangents of having to press the home button twice. Try fixing it first. Because what you experience is not what it's supposed to be doing.
 

nooaah

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Anyone else think it's clearing the way for the iPhone 8 where you won't use the home button but instead press your finger onto the notification to unlock "secure" functionality?
This change is very elegant when the home button suddenly disappears.

I made a drunken thread about this last month. No replies or F's haha
 

lagwagon

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I made a drunken thread about this last month. No replies or F's haha

Apple quite often does things that might not make sense right away but lay the ground work for something they have planned later.

Touch ID laid the foundation for Apple Pay. 3D Touch is paveing the way to interact with apps without having to fully launch them. We have rumours of as early as this years 7 that there will be no more physical home button (which 3D/Force Touch also helped in)
 
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blasto2236

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I think everyone is missing the forest for the trees here. If rumors hold true and the physical home button is on the way out anyway, this is essentially getting people habitually used to "levels" of touch to either unlock the lock screen or head in to springboard. If we eventually are heading to a phone that has no home button, training people who all have one now to either rest to unlock and authenticate or press in to head to the springboard is a wise choice.

This behavior will already seem pretty normal to us by the time a home-buttonless phone is released, and the last vestiges of slide to unlock being erased is what is needed to truly pave the way for that. I think it's about the best solution they could've come up with, given where it's anticipated this is all heading.

Edit - made this post without reading lagwagon's but basically TL;DR: what he said.
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Question to you Beta folks: if you turn on the screen using Sleep/Wake button, and then rest thumb on home button, does phone go right to Springboard (as in iOS 9)? Or do you now have to press the home button to get there?

Sorry if this scenario has been addressed in one of these many back-and-forth posts...

Yep! And I would say this is the only true annoyance/change in behavior. I personally never used the sleep/wake button until getting a 6s Plus and realizing that if I wanted to control music, etc from the lock screen then I had to avoid my home button like the plague. Really, this was not an intuitive behavior but one that I learned over time to do what I wanted. In fact, in iOS 9 I had simply become used to taking more steps than I had ever previously to carefully navigate the lockscreen.

It took me all of about a week after installing iOS 10 to go back to the home button, and interacting with my lock screen items when I want vs going straight to springboard is a choice that happens subconsciously and is easier than ever. If anything, they should do away with the sleep/wake button altogether. Useless except for restarting now. I suppose it is a good fallback for that.
 
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nooaah

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Apple quite often does things that might not make sense right away but lay the ground work for something they have planned later.

Touch ID laid the foundation for Apple Pay. 3D Touch is paveing the way to interact with apps without having to fully launch them. We have rumours of as early as this years 7 that there will be no more physical home button (which 3D/Force Touch also helped in)
Yup, I was speculating a bit in my thread about some sort of home buttonless device that had a permanent OLED dock a la the MBP rumors for the function keys. The reason being it seemed in b1 at times that the screens were rendering extra tall on the 6+ on certain native apps. Made me wonder/speculate if this was intentional but not meant for current devices. Of course I'm drunkenly typing about it again.
 

Shirasaki

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Yup, I was speculating a bit in my thread about some sort of home buttonless device that had a permanent OLED dock a la the MBP rumors for the function keys. The reason being it seemed in b1 at times that the screens were rendering extra tall on the 6+ on certain native apps. Made me wonder/speculate if this was intentional but not meant for current devices. Of course I'm drunkenly typing about it again.
Extra long in some native apps? Which app? And how?
 

Freida

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There is an option. However, as has been stated to you a hundred times, it's an early beta. The feature doesn't work yet.

Either have patience or roll back to iOS 9. Or perhaps you are ready to make the jump to an OS that better suits your needs. Railing against something that's not complete seems a waste of effort.
I am aware of that. Seeing that the option doesn't work yet then its yet to be seen if it brings back exactly what we had or it going to do something different. We shall see.
And for the comments - we were also discussing the current system which I think is not good. Some agree some disagree -c'est la vie :)
 

nooaah

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Extra long in some native apps? Which app? And how?
The settings and Messages apps were two that came to mind. Just in b1 and on an upgrade and a clean install. It was very slight but do you remember the status bar sometimes being off screen? Well, the bottom of a page also rendered off screen, as well, it's just harder to notice since the status bar is always static in those apps.
 
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