Press HOME to open - worst 'feature'?

[Freida]

Let me be clear. There are 2 work flows in iOS 10 and not just 1.

workflow #1

- Press home button once, keep finger on home = unlocks the phone to home page

workflow #2

- Press home button once and quickly lift finger off home = wakes the phone to the lock screen and will only unlock it if you press home 1 more time.

workflow 2 was implemented for those users who actually wanted to just wake up their phone with the home button and go to the lock screen.

Except the fact that there is one option missing - I get notification, the screen lits up and i rest my finger on it and the phone unlocks. iOS 9 works like a charm with this, iOS 10 doesn't. I have to press after. Pointless extra step.

I have also tried to respond to those notifications within the notification screen which not only was cumbersome but buggy. Ok, I take buggy for now as that is beta so its fine but the cumbersome is not. It still goes and open the app anyway so the whole point of that silly screen is not really there. Either way, lets hope Apple gives us the option to have both so we can pick what we like.

 

[lagwagon]

I'm not one of these users, and there's any option to just "slide to unlock" in ios 10

Wait. So you don't open your device? Like ever? Because that's what you're saying if you're not either of those.
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Except the fact that there is one option missing - I get notification, the screen lits up and i rest my finger on it and the phone unlocks. iOS 9 works like a charm with this, iOS 10 doesn't. I have to press after. Pointless extra step.

I have also tried to respond to those notifications within the notification screen which not only was cumbersome but buggy. Ok, I take buggy for now as that is beta so its fine but the cumbersome is not. It still goes and open the app anyway so the whole point of that silly screen is not really there. Either way, lets hope Apple gives us the option to have both so we can pick what we like.

3rd party apps can't use the iOS 10 API's for the new Rich Notifications yet until the GM is released. So don't judge any of that "still goes to the app" crap before it's even fully implemented.

 

[Shirasaki]

Except the fact that there is one option missing - I get notification, the screen lits up and i rest my finger on it and the phone unlocks. iOS 9 works like a charm with this, iOS 10 doesn't. I have to press after. Pointless step.

iOS 9 "slide to unlock" works great in this scenario but that's it.
Yesterday in a local Apple Store I tried about 10 times on both iPhone and iPad, without using Touch ID. "Slide to unlock" is nowhere faster than "press to unlock". Instead, I find myself needing to travel a lot to unlock. Using home button only eliminates this travel, plus I can assume "iPhone / iPad is being unlocked because I have pressed the physical button".

 

[Freida]

iOS 9 "slide to unlock" works great in this scenario but that's it.
Yesterday in a local Apple Store I tried about 10 times on both iPhone and iPad, without using Touch ID. "Slide to unlock" is nowhere faster than "press to unlock". Instead, I find myself needing to travel a lot to unlock. Using home button only eliminates this travel, plus I can assume "iPhone / iPad is being unlocked because I have pressed the physical button".

i don't need swipe to unlock. I want to rest my finger to unlock it when i get notification or message and my phone lits up without the need to press the home button after.
All I'm asking is to have iOS 9 behaviour as an option. I do not want to press home button for no reason.

 

[lagwagon]

i don't need swipe to unlock. I want to rest my finger to unlock it when i get notification or message and my phone lits up without the need to press the home button after.
All I'm asking is to have iOS 9 behaviour as an option. I do not want to press home button for no reason.

But it technically DOES unlock if you rest your finger on the Touch ID. So you can interact with your notifications. Why do you need to go fully in and open the phone to reply? It's now more than ever intended to not ever have to go fully into an app to reply. That's the purpose of the new lock screen and new Rich Notifications. (Yes it doesn't fully work quite yet this early in beta, because like I've said a couple posts up. 3rd party devs can't update to use iOS 10 API's for notifications until GM is released.)

 

[wdam123]

I, too agree with the OP. Not only does it seem counter intuitive but just imagine how many times you unlock your phone a day, and having to press the home button every single time, you're probably halving the longevity of the home button by half by being forced the press the home button to unlock and get to the home screen.

 

[lagwagon]

I, too agree with the OP. Not only does it seem counter intuitive but just imagine how many times you unlock your phone a day, and having to press the home button every single time, you're probably halving the longevity of the home button by half by being forced the press the home button to unlock and get to the home screen.

I've used the Home button to wake my iPhone since the 3G (was the first iphone to come to Canada) and not once have I had a Home button break. (3G, 4, 5, 6)

All these people so worried about their button breaking for using it are being way too paranoid. Or using that excuse to justify their hate of the new lock screen. It's not all that common the button will break, and using it to wake+open won't suddenly mean it will break. The button can last 10 years or 10 minutes after purchase. Regardless if you use it often or not.

It's not really counter intuitive either. You probably just don't yet understand the intention of how the new lock screen works.

 

[wdam123]

I've used the Home button to wake my iPhone since the 3G (was the first iphone to come to Canada) and not once have I had a Home button break. (3G, 4, 5, 6)

All these people so worried about their button breaking for using it are being way too paranoid. Or using that excuse to justify their hate of the new lock screen. It's not all that common the button will break, and using it to wake+open won't suddenly mean it will break. The button can last 10 years or 10 minutes after purchase. Regardless if you use it often or not.

It's not really counter intuitive either. You probably just don't yet understand the intention of how the new lock screen works.

You're saying 'people so worried about their button breaking for using it', yes but using it twice the amount as you would in comparison to iOS 9 throughout the duration of the day will no doubt result in a greater chance of damage or problems arising. You can raise to wake, but you're not raising to go to the home screen?

The lock screen is really not anything new or special, you 3D Touch on a message notification and you can reply there and then, wow!1 I still have other applications which don't show notifications nor require a response to a notification ya'know.

 

[lagwagon]

I still have other applications which don't show notifications nor require a response to a notification ya'know.

And in those cases when you want to go directly into the phone you can still press once and rest your registered finger to open. Just like it's always been.

 

[Feenician]

It's like people are straining their very hardest to think of problems where none exist when the only real problem is either "I just like wringing" or "I can't deal with change in any form, positive or negative". It's honestly a waste of time even responding.

If you raise to wake you need to press the home button to get to the home screen. Well, raise to wake never used to exist so in the case where you were waking your phone before you pressed home (or power) to wake it anyway. One button press, just like before.

If you press the home button to wake it and want to go directly to home you just do as you did before. Press and rest. One button press, just like before.

Previously picking up your phone when it was lit by notifications meant you could just treat your finger to go home. Now that action does something else on the lock screen, it unlocks the phone so you can respond securely to notifications. In this instance you press the home button to go home. One instance where you press where you didn't before.

It's honestly cry-baby stuff and this is my absolute last post in this thread or on this topic at least if, or until something actually changes.

 

[lagwagon]

It's like people are straining their very hardest to think of problems where none exist when the only real problem is either "I just like wringing" or "I can't deal with change in any form, positive or negative". It's honestly a waste of time even responding.

If you raise to wake you need to press the home button to get to the home screen. Well, raise to wake never used to exist so in the case where you were waking your phone before you pressed home (or power) to wake it anyway. One button press, just like before.

If you press the home button to wake it and want to go directly to home you just do as you did before. Press and rest. One button press, just like before.

Previously picking up your phone when it was lit by notifications meant you could just treat your finger to go home. Now that action does something else on the lock screen, it unlocks the phone so you can respond securely to notifications. In this instance you press the home button to go home. One instance where you press where you didn't before.

It's honestly cry-baby stuff and this is my absolute last post in this thread or on this topic at least if, or until something actually changes.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[mainnine]

Seems like you have a problem on your end. I can press and hold at any point during a raise to wake sequence and it goes straight to springboard. You absolutely, 100% should not be seeing a pin pad using touch id so there's definitely an issue.

I see the pin pad briefly too while it unlocks with Touch ID

 

[Shirasaki]

i don't need swipe to unlock. I want to rest my finger to unlock it when i get notification or message and my phone lits up without the need to press the home button after.
All I'm asking is to have iOS 9 behaviour as an option. I do not want to press home button for no reason.

Again, only in this case iOS 9 behaviour is better than iOS 10 behaviour, potentially. Otherwise, nothing more.

 

[Shirasaki]

I see the pin pad briefly too while it unlocks with Touch ID

I see keyboard EVERY TIME I unlock the device using Touch ID.
Must be a beta bug.

 

[Shirasaki]

It's like people are straining their very hardest to think of problems where none exist when the only real problem is either "I just like wringing" or "I can't deal with change in any form, positive or negative". It's honestly a waste of time even responding.

If you raise to wake you need to press the home button to get to the home screen. Well, raise to wake never used to exist so in the case where you were waking your phone before you pressed home (or power) to wake it anyway. One button press, just like before.

If you press the home button to wake it and want to go directly to home you just do as you did before. Press and rest. One button press, just like before.

Previously picking up your phone when it was lit by notifications meant you could just treat your finger to go home. Now that action does something else on the lock screen, it unlocks the phone so you can respond securely to notifications. In this instance you press the home button to go home. One instance where you press where you didn't before.

It's honestly cry-baby stuff and this is my absolute last post in this thread or on this topic at least if, or until something actually changes.

I too feel tired about this.
My conclusion: iOS 9 "swipe to unlock" is nowhere better than "press to unlock".
Perhaps iOS 9 "rest to unlock" is slightly better than iOS 10 behaviour if screen is lit by notification. But other than that, nothing more. I don't mind pressing it once more.
Heck, we tend to save home button, but the best way to save it is using it periodically. Not using something long time would only cause defect coming faster than ever.

 

[mpavilion]

Question to you Beta folks: if you turn on the screen using Sleep/Wake button, and then rest thumb on home button, does phone go right to Springboard (as in iOS 9)? Or do you now have to press the home button to get there?

Sorry if this scenario has been addressed in one of these many back-and-forth posts...

 

[nikhsub1]

I hate this 'feature' as well.

 

[dotnet]

Question to you Beta folks: if you turn on the screen using Sleep/Wake button, and then rest thumb on home button, does phone go right to Springboard (as in iOS 9)? Or do you now have to press the home button to get there?

On mine (6S+) it doesn't. If I do the above the padlock in the status bar unlocks itself and the word "Unlocked" appears next to it. At the bottom of the screen it says "Press home to open". I then have to press the home button to get to the springboard.

I get this very same behaviour even if I turn on the screen with the home button itself (rather then the side button), and just leave the finger on the button.

Sorry if this scenario has been addressed in one of these many back-and-forth posts...

Yes, it has been described several times, but there are some that won't acknowledge this. This could be due to some bug that causes different devices to behave differently.

 

[nooaah]

I get it for the phone but it's a stupid hassle to unlock the iPad now. Maybe I'm in the minority but the lock screen on the iPad Pro has zero purpose.

 

[Freida]

That's the purpose of the new lock screen and new Rich Notifications.

And perhaps its not something I prefer.

I've used the Home button to wake my iPhone since the 3G (was the first iphone to come to Canada) and not once have I had a Home button break. (3G, 4, 5, 6)

You were "lucky" (or me unlucky) as my iPhone 4 home button broke just after the warranty expired. Regardless, mechanical things are more likely to break by frequent use then non mechanical. I like the home button but it is one of the common faults I've observed when I worked for Apple.

It's like people are straining their very hardest to think of problems where none exist when the only real problem is either "I just like wringing" or "I can't deal with change in any form, positive or negative". It's honestly a waste of time even responding.

No, people don't like the new way and would rather prefer to have option. The new system is not well done in case your phone lits up and you want to rest finger to unlock it as you now have to press it (extra step). REST is OK for ME! (maybe not for others but for me the rest is fine). So, don't be so close minded and accept the fact that some people want to have the OPTION. No one is saying that we mush have this or this but not both. We just want to have the option - its that simple!

Again, only in this case iOS 9 behaviour is better than iOS 10 behaviour, potentially. Otherwise, nothing more.

Yes, that is correct and that is one thing i want preserved (as an option)

 

[mpavilion]

On mine (6S+) it doesn't. If I do the above the padlock in the status bar unlocks itself and the word "Unlocked" appears next to it. At the bottom of the screen it says "Press home to open". I then have to press the home button to get to the springboard.

I get this very same behaviour even if I turn on the screen with the home button itself (rather then the side button), and just leave the finger on the button.



Yes, it has been described several times, but there are some that won't acknowledge this. This could be due to some bug that causes different devices to behave differently.

Got it, thanks. And this happens even if you have no "secure" notifications to interact with(?) Seems like, at least, it should unlock right to springboard if no notifications...

I've seen another thread about a "Rest Finger to Unlock" toggle that seems to do nothing at this point? Hopefully that will restore the old behavior, for those who want it?

 

[dotnet]

Got it, thanks. And this happens even if you have no "secure" notifications to interact with(?) Seems like, at least, it should unlock right to springboard if no notifications...

I don't know what those "secure" notifications would be, but this behaviour is consistent regardless of whether I have any notifications or not. Also, allowing or disallowing Today and Notifications in the TouchID and Passcode settings makes no difference.

 

[mpavilion]

I don't know what those "secure" notifications would be, but this behaviour is consistent regardless of whether I have any notifications or not. Also, allowing or disallowing Today and Notifications in the TouchID and Passcode settings makes no difference.

Well I can see how this would be annoying, and feel like a step backwards. Hope they tweak it before the final release...

 

[JM]

Beta 2 has the option in Settings to avoid the press and just rest your finger on the home button to unlock. Hope that helps.

I can't be bothered to read all the replies...

 

[StonewallBrown]

And perhaps its not something I prefer


No, people don't like the new way and would rather prefer to have option. The new system is not well done in case your phone lits up and you want to rest finger to unlock it as you now have to press it (extra step). REST is OK for ME! (maybe not for others but for me the rest is fine). So, don't be so close minded and accept the fact that some people want to have the OPTION. No one is saying that we mush have this or this but not both. We just want to have the option - its that simple

There is an option. However, as has been stated to you a hundred times, it's an early beta. The feature doesn't work yet.

Either have patience or roll back to iOS 9. Or perhaps you are ready to make the jump to an OS that better suits your needs. Railing against something that's not complete seems a waste of effort.