iPhone 13 Pro Really bad photos with iPhone 13 Pro (+Max) Merged

[tedley]

Has this been posted here before? A Dec 9, 2021 interview with Apple that includes a line that their photo processing is inspired by oil paintings... This should be a filter or a slider, not the default.

Most disappointing camera I've had on a phone in 10 years.

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This is sad, scary an depressing. I've always liked the cameras apple has deployed on their phones. I may abandon the idea of using the phone camera for anything except utilitarian needs and just get a non-pro model to save the money. It's truly sad that this over-sharpened mess has become they have 'created' has become their new standard. I shouldn't have to pay their ridiculous prices and then pay even more for an app that works and you would expect their stock app to.

 

[AlGardner]

This is sad, scary an depressing. I've always liked the cameras apple has deployed on their phones. I may abandon the idea of using the phone camera for anything except utilitarian needs and just get a non-pro model to save the money. It's truly sad that this over-sharpened mess has become they have 'created' has become their new standard. I shouldn't have to pay their ridiculous prices and then pay even more for an app that works and you would expect their stock app to.

For me, I guess, it is the last attempt to use phone to make little kids pictures (

My thoughts were clear: best camera is what you have with you at the moment. And phone is almost always in my pocket or somewhere close.

 

[tedley]

For me, I guess, it is the last attempt to use phone to make little kids pictures (

My thoughts were clear: best camera is what you have with you at the moment. And phone is almost always in my pocket or somewhere close.

Yup. I would include those in the 'utilitarian' class. Documents, business needs, legal, (auto accidents etc) quick candid shots of social situations and grand kids. No scenery, nature or the really fun stuff that requires lots of prep.

 

[AlGardner]

Yup. I would include those in the 'utilitarian' class. Documents, business needs, legal, (auto accidents etc) quick candid shots of social situations and grand kids. No scenery, nature or the really fun stuff that requires lots of prep.

I was hoping to avoid carrying with me several lenses for the camera, but seems to be it is only option.
There are no such things as a miracles
Canon MkII + Samsung NX2000, were my go to cameras. But that’s heavy pack to have all the time.)
But if you want good pictures, have to invest some efforts.

 

[maybenotstig]

I was hoping to avoid carrying with me several lenses for the camera, but seems to be it is only option.
There are no such things as a miracles
Canon MkII + Samsung NX2000, were my go to cameras. But that’s heavy pack to have all the time.)
But if you want good pictures, have to invest some efforts.

I don't think you're asking for anything a current Samsung or Pixel couldn't provide. My desktop wallpaper is an incredible point and shoot image from my old Pixel 2XL. Nothing shot on my 13 Pro looks as good at that scale.

 

[tedley]

I was hoping to avoid carrying with me several lenses for the camera, but seems to be it is only option.
There are no such things as a miracles
Canon MkII + Samsung NX2000, were my go to cameras. But that’s heavy pack to have all the time.)
But if you want good pictures, have to invest some efforts.

Yeah. That's the real irony, right?! I was looking at the 13p hoping it would allow me to carry around my gear less and now it looks like I'll be carrying it more to get the shots I want. Sad.

 

[AlGardner]

Yeah. That's the real irony, right?! I was looking at the 13p hoping it would allow me to carry around my gear less and now it looks like I'll be carrying it more to get the shots I want. Sad.

Same here!)))))

 

[AlGardner]

I don't think you're asking for anything a current Samsung or Pixel couldn't provide. My desktop wallpaper is an incredible point and shoot image from my old Pixel 2XL. Nothing shot on my 13 Pro looks as good at that scale.

Some photos from 13pm are great.
But quality is unstable.
That is what bothers me.
I can’t use tele lens because it is 50/50. It can go great, or can go bad.
Same for ultra wide

I almost created preset for auto correction in Lightroom:
-10 saturation
+50 shadows
All photos in the interiors are unnaturally colorful and too dark in shadows.

Open air photos sometimes are fine with shadows. But I think -10 saturation is universal processing applicable to all photos.

Now trying darkroom - seems to be it can paste edited parameters to several selected photos directly in camera roll, no import/export needed. Handy thing to correct saturation. Will explore more…

P.S: feeling myself as a cheap android phone user ??‍♂️

 

[cabragg]

Ultra wide and tele - are both crappy lenses.
As I mentioned before - I drastically improved quality with using only wide lense.
Those are good only in limited “perfect” lighting conditions.

After I returned my 13 ProMax I went ahead and bought another one. This one seems to have a better camera than the first. Ultra wide for macros are great. The wide is working well although I'm still playing around with Halide for the telephoto, the stock app is working better than on my first ProMax. There seems to be less switching back to the wide when I'm using the telephoto.

 

[Taz Mangus]

After I returned my 13 ProMax I went ahead and bought another one. This one seems to have a better camera than the first. Ultra wide for macros are great. The wide is working well although I'm still playing around with Halide for the telephoto, the stock app is working better than on my first ProMax. There seems to be less switching back to the wide when I'm using the telephoto.

What version of iOS were you using on the 13 Pro Max you returned? Version on the new 13 Pro Max?

 

[cabragg]

What version of iOS were you using on the 13 Pro Max you returned? Version on the new 13 Pro Max?

Developer beta 15.3 on both of them.

 

[tedley]

After I returned my 13 ProMax I went ahead and bought another one. This one seems to have a better camera than the first. Ultra wide for macros are great. The wide is working well although I'm still playing around with Halide for the telephoto, the stock app is working better than on my first ProMax. There seems to be less switching back to the wide when I'm using the telephoto.

Did both phones have the same version of iOS? Ooops Sorry didn't see the prior post.

 

[AlGardner]

After I returned my 13 ProMax I went ahead and bought another one. This one seems to have a better camera than the first. Ultra wide for macros are great. The wide is working well although I'm still playing around with Halide for the telephoto, the stock app is working better than on my first ProMax. There seems to be less switching back to the wide when I'm using the telephoto.

If I could return it, would never go for another one

 

[neeverr]

After I returned my 13 ProMax I went ahead and bought another one. This one seems to have a better camera than the first. Ultra wide for macros are great. The wide is working well although I'm still playing around with Halide for the telephoto, the stock app is working better than on my first ProMax. There seems to be less switching back to the wide when I'm using the telephoto.

once again please check your camera serial in order to understand if Apple have changed the sensor revision during these months.. pls feed this thread.

Iphone 13 pro parts serials (cameras, battery, display...)

Hi everybody, first of all, congrats for this useful forum. I would kindly ask to iphone 13 pro users to check the device parts serials with 3uTools. This would be useful in case of performance inconsistencies (cam, display, batt....). my iphone 13 pro 256GB: disk: toshiba battery: F8Y...

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[AlGardner]

once again please check your camera serial in order to understand if Apple have changed the sensor revision during these months.. pls feed this thread.

Iphone 13 pro parts serials (cameras, battery, display...)

Hi everybody, first of all, congrats for this useful forum. I would kindly ask to iphone 13 pro users to check the device parts serials with 3uTools. This would be useful in case of performance inconsistencies (cam, display, batt....). my iphone 13 pro 256GB: disk: toshiba battery: F8Y...

forums.macrumors.com

How can I get this info?

 

[PeterJP]

I don't think you're asking for anything a current Samsung or Pixel couldn't provide. My desktop wallpaper is an incredible point and shoot image from my old Pixel 2XL. Nothing shot on my 13 Pro looks as good at that scale.

That's not the case on mine. I come from a Galaxy S10+ which also has a decent camera. Without any scientific comparison but going by feeling, I'd say the iPhone 13Pro's camera is probably better. The tele is very practical, but the results are usable only for web.

I was hoping to avoid carrying with me several lenses for the camera, but seems to be it is only option.
There are no such things as a miracles

That's my problem. I was hoping, with the tele, to use my iPhone much more instead of my Fujifilm camera. Unfortunately, that was naive. As much as technology has improved, a phone camera is still a phone camera. I'll be investing in another lens for my Fuji.

 

[AlGardner]

I was hoping, with the tele, to use my iPhone much more

That was one of the reasons I bought it

The tele is very practical, but the results are usable only for web.

The problem is in bad sensor in the Tele and Ultra wide. Main is fine.
I’m inspecting photos on 55’’ screen, and when there are no bad artifacts from extreme postprocessing-it looks great.
Also tele is good but only for portraits from short distance not more than 3-4 meters. Any farther, and there are possibility that photo will be blurry, even on shutter speed like 1/1000 under the bright sun. Like bad lottery(
That’s from my experiments. And that makes tele almost useless, because portraits from the wide main camera are fine for me. And I’m not ready to play the lottery to loose interesting moments.
So I’m using only wide lens in photo. And wide and, in perfect lightning conditions, ultra wide in video

 

[neeverr]

How can I get this info?

you need a windows tool called 3Utools

3uTools | The best all-in-one tool for iOS users

3uTools supports to back up and restore, flash and jailbreak, manage files (photos, videos, contacts...), it provides one-click download for iOS users with genuine iOS apps, popular games, free ringtones and HD wallpapers.

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[babyexercise]

That's not the case on mine. I come from a Galaxy S10+ which also has a decent camera. Without any scientific comparison but going by feeling, I'd say the iPhone 13Pro's camera is probably better. The tele is very practical, but the results are usable only for web.


That's my problem. I was hoping, with the tele, to use my iPhone much more instead of my Fujifilm camera. Unfortunately, that was naive. As much as technology has improved, a phone camera is still a phone camera. I'll be investing in another lens for my Fuji.

S21 ultra photos are more fake and unreal but people just like that

 

[AlGardner]

S21 ultra photos are more fake and unreal but people just like that

So we’re supposed to be happy by that? ))))))))

Any examples? Will Google it. Interesting…

 

[babyexercise]

So we’re supposed to be happy by that? ))))))))

Any examples? Will Google it. Interesting…

Just go to a shop and try it

 

[Fat_Guy]

Has this been posted here before? A Dec 9, 2021 interview with Apple that includes a line that their photo processing is inspired by oil paintings... This should be a filter or a slider, not the default.

Most disappointing camera I've had on a phone in 10 years.

Inside Apple Park: first look at the design team shaping the future of tech

Global exclusive! Led by Evans Hankey and Alan Dye, the Apple Design Team holds enormous sway over our evolving relationship with technology. Opening the doors to their studio at Apple Park in Cupertino for the first time, they offered us a deep dive into the working processes behind their...

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So before I referenced YouTuber Ssniperwolf but this time you may want to check out singer Madison Beer with the same love affair with Apple’s painted photos. Billions of streams on her songs and both love and praise their Pro Max phones.


Traditional photography preferences are now going against what the typical user wants. I will say middle aged women can look fabulous with this type of painted look. Try fighting that preference these days and you will fail. You are just going to have to do it all manually for the old-style photography that some of us still love.



And I chuckled when the argument centered around which was the best AI or processing program to make photos - what happened to just offering up what the sensor sees? Anyway most want to look their best even if it’s a plastic lie. I can’t say I blame them.

 

[cabragg]

S21 ultra photos are more fake and unreal but people just like that

My friend has a S21 Ultra and his pictures are stunning. The 10x zoom works far better than the 3x on the 13 ProMax. I would have bought one but I can't stand Android.

 

[AlGardner]

My friend has a S21 Ultra and his pictures are stunning. The 10x zoom works far better than the 3x on the 13 ProMax. I would have bought one but I can't stand Android.

3x lens matrix is bad(
Haven’t considered Android also. But, maybe I was wrong

 

[crshbndct]

Ultra wide and tele - are both crappy lenses.
As I mentioned before - I drastically improved quality with using only wide lense.
Those are good only in limited “perfect” lighting condition

Why does the camera always pick the wrong lens then? I switched to iOS for this phone, expecting a better camera than my 4 year old Android, but didn't get one. Some pictures look stunning. Mostly the kind of still shots you see in phone reviews.

But for regular crap like taking pics of my kid, snapping a quick shot of a document, and the kind of stuff I do all the time, it is complete junk. The rest of the phone is also borderline useless, but the camera is the part that was advertised so heavily, and is the biggest letdown.

I guess the battery is fine, but I use the phone for basically nothing outside of about 20-30 texts and probably 10-20 minutes of calls a day, but I'e had to carry a second phone around for everything else.