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As some others have said a bit above, there won't be a Mac version. I didn't know this either, tried to get a refund clearly explaining I was not aware of this. I had asked folks on the Steam forum if I could purchase these upcoming Mac releases during their BF sale (Stray and this), that when they were launched if I would get access. They said yes so I did.

In short, they denied my refund because of their 2 week rule. They can't overlook what clearly is going to lead for some confusion and plenty of unearned sales.

Thanks Steam for stealing $40 from me!
I wonder if it's mostly the publishers, along with Steam.

I got the Mac version of Life is Strange 2 and a few other games when they were released for Mac.
 
I wonder if it's mostly the publishers, along with Steam.

I got the Mac version of Life is Strange 2 and a few other games when they were released for Mac.

Stray arrived fine. This did not.

I'm looking for announcement info on this and all I see is "coming to the Mac store on the 20th". Not language saying it was an exclusive. Don't understand how someone who is newer to these games would be able to infer this. I didn't try buying Resident Evil Village that was only on the Mac App Store, for instance.
 
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Stray arrived fine. This did not.

I'm looking for announcement info on this and all I see is "coming to the Mac store on the 20th". Not language saying it was an exclusive. Don't understand how someone who is newer to these games would be able to infer this. I didn't try buying Resident Evil Village that was only on the Mac App Store, for instance.
Yes, it's a guessing game often.
 
I looked it in the App Store for iOS and it recommends that a controller, mean that the controls are cr*p without one.
It is absolutely unplayable with just touch. In order to properly shoot, you need to hold button to raise gun, another press to shoot, while holding the R stick to actually aim, then during real fights you need the L stick to walk / side step around. This game is meant to be played with shoulder buttons and analog sticks, or KB + mouse.

That said, the iPad Pro Magic KB + trackpad wouldn’t work lol, the iOS/iPadOS versions seem to only support touch and controller.
 
Sad to see the fragmentation of game stores happening. There is no reason why the MacOS version shouldn't be on Steam too since the game is already available there.

Also no price listed on the App Store. You have to download it and have an in app purchase which is kinda gross tbh.

No, it's called Capcom not wanting to give Valve the 30% cut. Likely an App Store incentive. Just like Epic Store does for select exclusives now, 0% cut for 6-months than 12%.
 
Apple Silicon GPU's performance still sucks and you can get M2 Pro's performance with mobile 3060 around $1000. Who really wanna play games on Mac? Apple seriously need to think about that issue.
M3 series have Ray tracing via hardware, and number are totally different now... a M3 Max it is on between a RT 4080 and a rt 4070. So please don't try to create confusion.
 
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M3 series have Ray tracing via hardware, and number are totally different now... a M3 Max it is on between a RT 4080 and a rt 4070. So please don't try to create confusion.
Where is your proof that M3 Max is 4080? It was never close to 4080 but mobile 4060 based on Baldur's gate 3 with 4K where high GPU power is required. M2 Pro on RE: Village at FHD is already identical to mobile RTX 3060 WITH MetalFX. You are the one making confusion. Apple GPU sucks and that's the fact.
 
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M3 series have Ray tracing via hardware, and number are totally different now... a M3 Max it is on between a RT 4080 and a rt 4070. So please don't try to create confusion.
I suppose there may be any number of benchmarks out there, but according to Geekbench the M3 Max barely edges out a laptop 3060. Even if you look at their Mac Benchmarks (OpenCL), the 40 core M3 Max just edges out a desktop 3060. Curious to see what cross-platform benchmark results you found.
 
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Where is your proof that M3 Max is 4080? It was never close to 4080 but mobile 4060 based on Baldur's gate 3 with 4K where high GPU power is required. M2 Pro on RE: Village at FHD is already identical to mobile RTX 3060 WITH MetalFX. You are the one making confusion. Apple GPU sucks and that's the fact.

I believe this is where people are getting that claim:

Apple M3 Max lags behind Nvidia's 4080 Laptop GPU by 7%, outpaces M2 Max by 18% in GFXBench's Aztec Ruins test
 
I suppose there may be any number of benchmarks out there, but according to Geekbench the M3 Max barely edges out a laptop 3060. Even if you look at their Mac Benchmarks (OpenCL), the 40 core M3 Max just edges out a desktop 3060. Curious to see what cross-platform benchmark results you found.

It's far slower in OpenCL than Metal. OpenCL support has waned in recent years and it's technically deprecated in Sonoma.
 
GFXBench is such a biased benchmark and really not reliable. That's how Apple claimed that M1 Ultra is powerful than RTX 3090. Beside, the benchmark does not prove anything.

Source? I'll admit I'm not super knowledgable on these matters but AFA a neutral reporter, can't think of a higher authority on performance than notebookcheck. As I just stated above, OpenCL is a pretty poor representation of performance, Apple just deprecated it on Sonoma.
 
Apple has become serious about gaming several times since the 1990s.
And here we are today, still in the doldrums. The most serious thing Apple ever did to allow AAA gaming on their macs was when they did bootcamp. The 2012 MBP 15 had one of the best mobile CPU/GPU combos for gaming at the time and so did the 2019 MBP 16 with 5600M GPU which was pretty good for the form factor.
 
Source? I'll admit I'm not super knowledgable on these matters but AFA a neutral reporter, can't think of a higher authority on performance than notebookcheck. As I just stated above, OpenCL is a pretty poor representation of performance, Apple just deprecated it on Sonoma.
Cinebench R24 shows different result which is more reliable.

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From Baldur's gate 3, M3 Max is barely better than mobile RTX 4060 and far from mobile RTX 4080 on 4K where GPU usage is high. Be aware that Baldur's gate 3 is more CPU dependent and yet that's the result.
 
AAA games that cost 30$ + which will break once iOS get further updates and cspcom moved on.
do you guys remember bioshock?
the only game I bought recently at this price range was divinity original sin and I bought it to test my hardware ( new iPad).
I played and finished the game than actually bought the game on got to preserve it.
i pray the game doesn’t go the same way bloodstained did ;/ ( stroke)
 
Interesting thing is the article then points to GFXBench as the source. When I go there and compare M3 Max to 4080 Laptop, the numbers for the cited “Aztec Ruins” benchmark don’t seem to support the article. Tell me if I’ve missed something here. The 400+ fps numbers cited as “close” are apparently for offscreen rendering, and only in the “high tier” Aztec benchmark. The onscreen rendering numbers are pretty far apart in favor of the Laptop 4080.

I don’t have an opinion re: the fairness of GFXBench as a benchmark, but it’s safe to say the author of the article conveniently leaving out the details (on vs offscreen) in order to claim performance is close is not a good look.

edit: “are” pretty far apart
 
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I'm not much of an AAA gamer, but this does suggest a version of Apple TV built for gaming?
The tough part of doing such a thing would be you'd need a Apple TV with a chip like the current top of the line in iOS and typically Apple TV's are cheap and way past prime SOC's to keep the costs down.

But its crazy amazing people are running this AAA game on a smartphone even if it is 30fps....its mind blowing when you consider where we were 10 years ago.
 
Cinebench R24 shows different result which is more reliable.

So doing a bit more digging to understand this found this video where it's showing things in r23 for the M3 Max again quite close to the 4080 score shown in your link.

I don't know why there would be such a huge discrepancy between r23 and r24, but the windows machines have similar numbers between the two while Apple silicon are just about halved. Seems terribly suspicious.

(around the 10 minute mark)

AFA Baldur's Gate, that's one game that almost certainly isn't going to be quite as optimized as it could be. That's probably going to be true for a lot of cross platform support for the foreseeable future, I'd imagine.
 

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Interesting thing is the article then points to GFXBench as the source. When I go there and compare M3 Max to 4080 Laptop, the numbers for the cited “Aztec Ruins” benchmark don’t seem to support the article. Tell me if I’ve missed something here. The 400+ fps numbers cited as “close” are apparently for offscreen rendering, and only in the “high tier” Aztec benchmark. The onscreen rendering numbers are pretty far apart in favor of the Laptop 4080.

I don’t have an opinion re: the fairness of GFXBench as a benchmark, but it’s safe to say the author of the article conveniently leaving out the details (on vs offscreen) in order to claim performance is close is not a good look.

edit: “are” pretty far apart

I don't know what to make of this, just a random entry. We don't even know if it's unbinned or other conditions. I'd prefer to work with some sort of writeup or analysis.
 
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It's not even close. Clearly, you are trolling.

I most certainly am not.

I will spell it out for you - the graphic clearly shows 24066 for the M3 Max, 32454 for the 4090 machine

In your link, it shows 26855 for the 4080 machine, 34772 for the 4090 machine

The 4090 machine is near parity for R23 and R24, showing a 7% improvement between benchmarks. So, relatively close, but it is getting a boost. We could probably extrapolate a similar increase for the 3080 given similar architectures.

OTOH, the R24 4080 vs R23 M3 Max we get 26855/24066 = 11% gain. And that's including an almost certain extra 5% boost the 4080 is getting for the benchmark improvement.

I have no idea what's going on w/ R24 for Apple silicon, or if some measurement is horribly off, but something definitely is.
 
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I just provided the actual figures with calculations. I provided the source used against the source you provided.

Until you can do the same then it's safe to assume you're not approaching this discussion in good faith and really have nothing constructive to add nor can be taken seriously.
Dude, scores means nothing and I already provided Baldur's gate 3's performance with actual devices. Do you not get it? Where is your proof that M3 Max = mobile 4080 on gaming? Clearly, you do not have any proofs after all.
 
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Dude, scores means nothing and I already provided Baldur's gate 3's performance with actual devices. Do you not get it? Where is your proof that M3 Max = mobile 4080 on gaming? Clearly, you do not have any proofs after all.

Your words: "Cinebench R24 shows different result which is more reliable."

If you don't feel that is important then why share that?

I just showed the earlier version of the benchmark from another source has things very close (extrapolated from the 4090 result) between the 4080 and M3 Max.

I'm not saying this is conclusive, these are just two sources and they're highly divergent. I'd prefer to understand instead of outright calling you a troll, but hey, you went there. It seems like you've already made up your mind regardless and don't really care about data.

I already addressed what you claim about BG3, but then again, you provided no source that backs up the claim anyway so I'm not even sure to what degree that is even true.

In any case, I'm done here. Clearly nothing is to come out of this and you're just wasting my time.
 
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