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[KingslayerG5]

What Apple is doing to their customers is called sodomy.

I can't stand it, I know you planned it
I'm-a set it straight, this Throttlegate
I can't stand rockin' when I'm in here
Cause your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear
So while you sit back and wonder why
I got this f*****' thorn in my side
Oh my god, it's a mirage
I'm tellin' y'all, it's sabotage

What Apple did was they used the iPhones' sealed battery as the kill switch timer. So the more you recharge it, the slower it gets. Within a year depending on how much you use it and the temperatures, a battery can degrade down to 80% of its capacity. In less than a year it can happen. So Apple basically added a feature to "sabotage" your perfectly working iPhone based on the life expectancy of the sealed battery.

What do you call Kevin Durant and Tim Cook sitting next to each other in an airliner? "Snakes In A Plane."

 

[DNichter]

Perfectly stated.

And not to mention, if Apple did the opposite, didn't tweak the operating system to help prolong the life of fading batteries. Then you'd have the same people screaming about how their phone charge only lasted 90 minutes as they went storming in anger off to a mall kiosk to get a new battery installed for $175. "Screw Apple! They could have fixed the situation with software for free!" would be the narrative.

Kindergarten. It's what we're dealing with here.

People forget that it’s a business. Apple, like any business, has to make decisions sometimes that won’t make every single person happy. They make decisions in the the best interest of the company and the majority of their user base.

 

[umbrokhan]

what about going on Android forums and saying Return your Android phones! because Google steals your Data and privacy!
the one eye pyramid All seeing eye, we watching you, can stick it.

 

[Bill91LX]

What Apple is doing to their customers is called sodomy.



What Apple did was they used the iPhones' sealed battery as the kill switch timer. So the more you recharge it, the slower it gets. Within a year depending on how much you use it and the temperatures, a battery can degrade down to 80% of its capacity. In less than a year it can happen. So Apple basically added a feature to "sabotage" your perfectly working iPhone based on the life expectancy of the sealed battery.

What do you call Kevin Durant and Tim Cook sitting next to each other in an airliner? "Snakes In A Plane."

Sodomy?? Lmao. Dude. Relax. It’s a phone. Get some perspective.

Geez. Some of these posts are ridiculous. Lol

 

[j800r]

Oh my god. Get a grip people! The behaviour of some of you guys is...well... there’s no word for it. Talk about overreaction.

I get the press going ape over it because it’s a story and they gotta put a spin on it to make it sell and everyone knows it’s trendy to hate on Apple but all your conspiracy theories need to stop.

Apple are a hardware company. They make money through selling hardware to you. Google make their big bucks by selling you. They trade your information as a commodity. This is known fact. So of course Apple are turning more profit through hardware sales. That’s the whole point. They’re not just looking to break even. That doesn’t make them monsters, that makes them a business.

Things are designed to break over time so that you will spend more money on the new product, that’s the way the world works. Nothing really lasts forever.

Apple are trying to EXTEND the life of your device by throttling the hardware after they detect battery wear based on the amount of battery wear. A battery should not wear all that much within a year period. While in warranty you’re gonna be fine. After warranty is up if you’re that fussed just get the battery replaced.

You’re not being screwed. Don’t fall for press propaganda. Just enjoy your product.

 

[Shark5150]

Go pound sand. Really. Over this non-event?

 

[ARSC]

Spending 1200 on a phone and the battery gets kaput after a year is absolutely not acceptable.

Also, we always knew its happening, now its out and people are going crazy

 

[Gathomblipoob]

warty is up.

Now that is just disturbing.
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Sodomy?? Lmao. Dude. Relax. It’s a phone. Get some perspective.

Geez. Some of these posts are ridiculous. Lol

Sodomy? I never felt a thing.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

That's not the case at all. They prolonged the life of phones with dying batteries. Should they have been more transparent about it? Sure, but you can see how people react right here in this forum. It's a joke, a bunch of children.

I definitely think Apple should have been more transparent about it. I think they tweaked the software to hide the fact phones that were only a year old were suffering both in performance and battery life. It was quite sneaky and I dare say was done to prevent returns and save them money from a fall out.

It could have been done while they come up with a long term fix that doesn’t sacrifice performance though too? Having said that my 6S battery is dreadful since I installed iOS 11 and every update I wonder if the issue has been tackled. The fifth update was installed the other day and it’s still bad. Apple messed up and it can’t really be dressed up as anything else. People are very entitled to be annoyed about it too.

 

[44267547]

People forget that it’s a business. Apple, like any business, has to make decisions sometimes that won’t make every single person happy. They make decisions in the the best interest of the company and the majority of their user base.

And I know this goes without saying, but Apple is in a position to make money. And not everybody agrees with their tactics, but it's difficult to argue that Apple doesn't put out a premium product that will easily outlast its life expectancy and the customer service to stand behind the product. Those are two ingredients for a very successful technological company.

 

[aevan]

Crippling hardware to push upgrades is not nonsense.

Agree. Fortunately, Apple is not doing that! Phew. Great news, so you can relax.

So, Apple is not crippling hardware to push upgrades. Half their engineering team would quit in anger if that were the case.

What Apple is doing is protecting your device, extendng its life.
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2) I dispute that. Apple penny pinches ( see above).

Apple puts the most expensive internals in their devices, so what gives you the idea they are cheaping out? I am no expert, but everything I’ve read so far tells me they have some of the best batteries in the industry - so, you’ll have to do better than “Apple penny pinches”. Seriously, anyone has any info here other than anecdotal evidence?

 

[yansun]

How about notifying the user to change the battery in time instead of reducing the performance without any notice? If it would have not came out last week by a third party Apple probably would have left the users in the dark forever about this "battery life extending" tweak.

 

[YaBe]

What Apple is doing is protecting your device, extendng its life.

That must be the funniest comment of the year! You win!

Funny enought my iPhone was fine before Apple protected it, now I am happily using a Xiaomi and will not look back.

 

[Vermifuge]

That must be the funniest comment of the year! You win!

Funny enought my iPhone was fine before Apple protected it, now I am happily using a Xiaomi and will not look back.

participating in the forum is ... looking back

 

[YaBe]

participating in the forum is ... looking back

Not really, It means I am not looking at getting back to iPhones (never say never...) the thing is I do not think Android is as bad as some people think it is, and most of them never even tried one (or used older versions) and talk with stereotypes, but the fact remains, I did not need to be “protected” nor I think I was, if any I was punished for having a battery that is used, that I cannot change myself and that I need to spend 100 euros to get replaced in order to regain what I had before.

It is the ONLY device I have ever had which had degrading performance due to a decaying battery, normally the product has less battery life, not poorer performances.

And IF it is such an issue on iPhones, they should at least implement bigger batteries instea of slimming down the phone.

 

[Jodiuh]

I love my phone. I have no intention of returning it over this non scandal.

I cannot get my head around the amount of stupid from media.

Recently saw a video on haystack where the guy says Apple either considerably slows down your phone or ruins your battery.

Do people really not understand lithium batteries whilst dropping $800 on these ultra portable computers?

Should I sue Microsoft and Dell for slowing down my processor when I’m running on battery?

If you have to benchmark ANYTHING to show a performance metric, there’s nothing to be concerned about.

Yes, Apple should have been transparent, but...this is just dumb.

 

[YaBe]

I cannot get my head around the amount of stupid from media.

Recently saw a video on haystack where the guy says Apple either considerably slows down your phone or ruins your battery.

Do people really not understand lithium batteries whilst dropping $800 on these ultra portable computers?

Should I sue Microsoft and Dell for slowing down my processor when I’m running on battery?

If you have to benchmark ANYTHING to show a performance metric, there’s nothing to be concerned about.

Yes, Apple should have been transparent, but...this is just dumb.

Neither Sony with PSP or VIta have performance issue even with older Batteries and they run 3D intensive games, nor Nintendo on 3DS with almost dead battery have performance issue with 3D games, yes the battery last less, but the performance is there.

The iPhone cannot even scroll smoothly trough the homepages....hardly 3d intensive.

Again decaying battery life should shorten how much time you can use it, not slow it down.

Computer on battery and on power cord? Completely different story, and if we want to be picky, even then I can a(t least on windows) sacrifice battery life for performances, so no you cannot sue Microsoft or Dell, because you have a choice and it is well labeled there!

 

[Jodiuh]

Neither Sony with PSP or VIta have performance issue even with older Batteries and they run 3D intensive games, neither does 3DS with almost dead battery have performance issue with 3D games, yes the battery last less, but the performance is there.

The iPhone cannot even scroll smoothly trough the homepages....hardly 3d intensive.

Again decaying battery life should shorten how much time you can use it, not slow it down.

Computer on battery and on power cord? Completely different story, and if we want to be picky, even than I can a(t least on windows) sacrifice battery life for performances.

Both gaming systems. This is a phone.

Also, I have no issues whatsoever scrolling on this forum much less the home screen on a 1.75 yr old 6S plus with over 500 charge cycles.

Just ran Geekbench:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/5724611

IMO, this is being blown WAY out of proportion or I’m very, very lucky.

(I’m never lucky)



Edit: Personally, if an ultra portable computer’s battery’s getting near 80% battery capacity, it’s WAY past time to upgrade.

 

[YaBe]

Both gaming systems. This is a phone.

Also, I have no issues whatsoever scrolling on this forum much less the home screen on a 1.75 yr old 6S plus with over 500 charge cycles.

Just ran Geekbench:
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/5724611

IMO, this is being blown WAY out of proportion or I’m very, very lucky.

(I’m never lucky)

I am sure we will never agree, but my iPhone 6 was down on its knees, and could not run smoothly even the homepage scroll.(I do not need benchmark to tell me how it is performing, we are not talking about intensive work)

What does the fact that are gaming system have to do with how battery works... A battery is a battery, IF the iPhone has bad power management then it is a different story, but It works how they intend it to work (they said so), and they slow you down on purpose, while they could just let you run the iPhone like you always have, just with lower battery life item, like many (if not all) other company do!

My 3ds might be a gaming console, but went trough different SW updates, can browse the internet and watch YouTube......and still after many years without changing the batteries still runs as day 1 ....yes for shorter periods, but even then, 1 screw and i can replace it easily and cheap.

 

[Jodiuh]

I am sure we will never agree, but my iPhone 6 was down on its knees, and could not run smoothly...

You are so defensive! Were you...was it YaBe’s happy time?

 

[Dave245]

No thank you i'm loving my iPhone X and i've loved every iPhone i've had in the past, by far the best phones on the market in my opinion. There is no big conspiracy here (that's not what the conspiracy theorists will say tho) Apple are slowing down older models in order to preserve the older devices due to the battery degrading over time.
If Apple were doing this with new devices like the iPhone X i would be very annoyed, but considering it's only being done to older devices it's really not an issue as far as i'm concerned.

 

[ApplePersonFreak]

No thank you i'm loving my iPhone X and i've loved every iPhone i've had in the past, by far the best phones on the market in my opinion. There is no big conspiracy here (that's not what the conspiracy theorists will say tho) Apple are slowing down older models in order to preserve the older devices due to the battery degrading over time.
If Apple were doing this with new devices like the iPhone X i would be very annoyed, but considering it's only being done to older devices it's really not an issue as far as i'm concerned.

I agree with this. I have both a X and a 7 as my backup phone and my 7 is running perfectly fine. I actually would rather it be done this way than have it shut off randomly.. sorry but I’m perfectly happy and don’t forsee any returns in my future.

 

[aevan]

Funny enought my iPhone was fine before Apple protected it, now I am happily using a Xiaomi and will not look back.

So, justifying your switch is really important to you now. I understand.

 

[YaBe]

So, justifying your switch is really important to you now. I understand.

No not really, I switched 6 months ago, and do not need approval .

I thought forum were made to discuss and to exchange ideas, but apparently I am mistaken and If you donì’t agree with the mass you are either a fanboy or trying to justify things....

And I thought it was possible to have an adult conversation....

 

[aevan]

No not really, I switched 6 months ago, and do not need approval .

I thought forum were made to discuss and to exchange ideas,

Sure, but this is not exchanging ideas. You already have a formed narrative in your mind and no matter what people say or do, in your eyes, Apple is the bad guy. So how is than an exchange?

Because, I don’t see you discussing all the points that people made defending their decision. No, in your mind, this is a done deal, and what you consider an “adult conversation” is, in fact, people agreeing with you.