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Kitkat52

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, I use it to start a workout. I might look at some shortcuts soon though.



I didn’t do the trade in so I’ve still got my S4. I’m not sure what I’m going to do with it. Maybe my mom needs a hand me down Apple Watch. Lol
I kept my daughter‘s series 4 for a backup watch. My previous backup watch was a series 0, which I recently took to the Apple Store for recycling.
 

snerkler

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I think the ultra has sold well enough. They said they didn’t expect to sell many during the presentation and currently it’s sold out for in store.

I also think the ultra just makes sense. The titanium versions of the Apple Watch don’t make much sense when there is stainless steel. So they made the titanium finish have a purpose and made it the ultimate sport watch. It will be like this for awhile. Hermes —sb, normal Apple Watch—other steel varieties, Apple Watch ultra-titanium, and Apple Watch cheap variety—aluminum.
The titanium makes sense to me as you get a more premium finish but pretty much the same weight as the aluminium.

After recently swapping to the SS the extra weight is a bit annoying at work. I wear my watches loose and when I’m at work I can feel the Watch rattling around on my wrist, whereas I can’t with the aluminium.
 

jcshas

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I tried so hard to find a benefit over my Series 7 and just can’t. I’m getting the exact same data from it and besides the appearance difference, it’s the same…for my use case.

Anyone else return?
I’m with you. I have a series 7 45mm SS, and an Ultra. Comparing the two, I’m running out of reasons/excuses to keep the Ultra. Other than longer battery life, the Ultra doesn’t fundamentally change or improve how I use my Apple Watch. For my use case, the only logical reason I can come up with to keep the Ultra is bragging rights.
 

Johnly

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It will be interesting to see how the Ultra does in terms of sales numbers. I expect many Apple Watch loyalists to act like me and get the Ultra because it is the only true “new Apple Watch” since at least the S6 (arguably S5) and not because they are an “extreme athlete”. The new form factor plus some added functionality give a real reason for an upgrade that was not there before (I am coming from a S6). Unless the Ultra indeed is “too large” for sombody’s wrist it is the watch to get. Price wise, the watch is actually a relative good value considering the sapphire glass, titanium casing and added functionality.
Absolutely. The two weeks is gone to return the watch and I haven’t thought about it once. Just the value in the sapphire glass appropriately seated In titanium, the large flat screen, extra battery life, don’t need a silly bumper or screen protector, it is worth it to me to keep. I have slammed it up against a few things already and it still looks new. The call quality is great and if you don’t have the app “WorkOutDoors” by golly get it! It super charges what is already arguably the best wearable in the market today! Happy stress free travels ultra wearers and standard Apple Watch users alike! We are still all team apple 🍺👍🥾
 

Johnly

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Hard to tell from within our own echo chamber.
I think $800 is going to be way beyond what most people will even consider for a watch.
I feel like people were expecting it to cost more, say 999. I think it’s actually priced quite aggressively for what it is. I have a feeling it will be a strong segment for Apple and will account for a decent amount of growth year over year. They should consider making a smaller version, as that seems to be the biggest obstacle for most other than price, and in doing so if they can get the cost down to 599-699, that will help, but there is a fine balance on being profitable with out making an inferior product.
 

Shadowbech

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I returned the Ultra.
yesterday I went to purchase a couple bands.
Overheard an employee giving another customer the rundown of ultra inventory and bands.
after hearing they had the black trail band in stock, the employee took note at my reaction and asked if I wanted to return mine and reserve one with trail band.
Seems wasteful to Return one and grab another just for the band.
however, that’s Apple’s policy.
Yea and technically if they had the trail band only in stock they can make an exception to just swap out the band. Of course it does need managers overide. but it can be done. They probably want to avoid it tho. I do have a friend that is a store manager at the apple store i usually go to so thats what he told me when i asked him about it.
 

newellj

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I returned the Ultra.
yesterday I went to purchase a couple bands.
Overheard an employee giving another customer the rundown of ultra inventory and bands.
after hearing they had the black trail band in stock, the employee took note at my reaction and asked if I wanted to return mine and reserve one with trail band.
Seems wasteful to Return one and grab another just for the band.
however, that’s Apple’s policy.
Yes and yes. I had ordered one with the S/M Trail Loop, which technically was a great fit. The problem was that it was very hard to get it over my thumb. I "exchanged" it yesterday for one with the M/L Trail Loop and really tried to get them to wave a magic wand over the two watches so they could keep the unopened watch. No dice. They said the loop was part of a single SKU, and the watch serial number was tied to the SKU, so they could only do this by taking a return of the first watch and selling the second one as boxed. Crazy...they should truly have orders set up a la carte, so bands can be returned or exchanged without creating a huge pile of watches that can't be sold as new and have to be sold in the refurb part of the store.

Which band did you return and how’s the trail loop by comparison?
I've had all three types - I created a thread with my impressions and opinions, and there are lots of other people's experiences being posted there. I really preferred the Trail Loop. I liked the Ocean Band but probably wouldn't make that my first choice. I personally really didn't like the Alpine Loop much, but your mileage might vary.

Hard to tell from within our own echo chamber.
I think $800 is going to be way beyond what most people will even consider for a watch.
This may sound crazy and probably is, but I think the AWU is almost a "bargain" compared to other Apple watches.

The S7 titanium Edition versions were $850, $50 more than the AWU, and didn't offer nearly as much bang for the buck, although you could choose a dark-finished case.

The S8 stainless steel watches are $750, only $50 less than the AWU, and (again) don't offer all the features of the AWU.

I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't jack up the price of the AWU next year. (I'd also bet that one of the "upgrades" offered next year for the AWU is a dark-finished case, which a lot of people would prefer.)
 

bruinsrme

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This may sound crazy and probably is, but I think the AWU is almost a "bargain" compared to other Apple watches.

The S7 titanium Edition versions were $850, $50 more than the AWU, and didn't offer nearly as much bang for the buck, although you could choose a dark-finished case.

The S8 stainless steel watches are $750, only $50 less than the AWU, and (again) don't offer all the features of the AWU.

I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't jack up the price of the AWU next year. (I'd also bet that one of the "upgrades" offered next year for the AWU is a dark-finished case, which a lot of people would prefer.)
yes, I was shocked when I saw the $799 usd tag. I was thinking at least $899
 

wilberforce

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This may sound crazy and probably is, but I think the AWU is almost a "bargain" compared to other Apple watches.
Yes you are correct, but to many people this is similar to saying a Porsche is a bargain compared to an Aston Martin. Yes it is, but they are not going to consider buying either, and perceive them as nice-to-have luxuries they do not need.
 

bruinsrme

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Yes you are correct, but to many people this is similar to saying a Porsche is a bargain compared to an Aston Martin. Yes it is, but they are not going to consider buying either, and perceive them as nice-to-have luxuries they do not need.
I like the ultra. in my opinion, price is still steep.
I’m convinced people struggle with comprehending why someone would spend $800+ on a watch. In turn people spending $800+ on a watch coukd provably sit outside a Coach store and question who in their right mind would spend that much on a bag.

People balked at the ceramic models. I have both. Absolutely love them.
it’s surely a luxury.
if there was a series 8 ceramic, I would have bought that over the ultra.
 

OriginalAppleGuy

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On pricing of the AWU - don't forget if you have an Apple card, you can get one for $3x/month interest free. Carriers also sell the AWU for payments with little to no interest I believe. People stopped buying based on total price and focus on monthly payments a LONG time ago. It's how cell phones get bought by most as well.
 

Bazooka-joe

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This may sound crazy and probably is, but I think the AWU is almost a "bargain" compared to other Apple watches.

I'd be surprised if Apple doesn't jack up the price of the AWU next year. (I'd also bet that one of the "upgrades" offered next year for the AWU is a dark-finished case, which a lot of people would prefer.)
I get where you are coming from. The AWU is a bargain And I think everyone was shocked about how well it was priced in comparison to previous titanium watches that don’t have the same battery life, don’t have the same brightness or the same functionality. I wonder if Apple was testing the market to the appetite for a utility watch. They may well hike the price next year but I still think it will be good value especially if they offer the titanium in black
 
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IT Provisor

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I like the ultra. in my opinion, price is still steep.
I’m convinced people struggle with comprehending why someone would spend $800+ on a watch. In turn people spending $800+ on a watch coukd provably sit outside a Coach store and question who in their right mind would spend that much on a bag.

People balked at the ceramic models. I have both. Absolutely love them.
it’s surely a luxury.
if there was a series 8 ceramic, I would have bought that over the ultra.
Ah, the ceramic: I had that model for the Series 2 and 3, and briefly for the Series 5, as well, but liked the “gold” Series 5 (it looked more like bronze, to be honest) more, so I went with that, instead. At the end of the day, you go with what you like and don’t look back. I’m about to return my Ultra, since I prefer the looks of the gold Series 7 more.

For those who have and like the Ultra, great! For those, like me, who like the stainless models better, great! For those who like the aluminum best, great! Outside of some objectively better specs of the Ultra, the Apple Watch models are pretty much the same, with the appearance (fashion), being the SOLE differentiator. Go with what you like best and don’t look back! 👀
 
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foulox

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I returned the watch. Runners need more than one button, we need one to mark a lap, another to pause a run, buttons to change the display. One button doesn’t work for runners, maybe it works for joggers. Runners don’t want to look at a screen to press buttons when we are running hard. We want to press then look.

And the buttons need to be on the right side. You don’t want to reach around.

And it’s to thick and square on the sides to sleep with. It woke me up at night.

I traded it in for the 8 and I will continue to use my $200 garmin for running.

This watch is not for runners. I doubt it works well for other athletes either.
 

CyberDavis

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Hard to tell from within our own echo chamber.
I think $800 is going to be way beyond what most people will even consider for a watch.
Bear in mind the stainless steel AW8 only costs a little less, so I think price whilst certainly important is not going to deter everyone.
For some the features will be enough to justify the extra.

I returned the watch. Runners need more than one button, we need one to mark a lap, another to pause a run, buttons to change the display. One button doesn’t work for runners, maybe it works for joggers. Runners don’t want to look at a screen to press buttons when we are running hard. We want to press then look.

And the buttons need to be on the right side. You don’t want to reach around.

And it’s to thick and square on the sides to sleep with. It woke me up at night.

I traded it in for the 8 and I will continue to use my $200 garmin for running.

This watch is not for runners. I doubt it works well for other athletes either.
I run at least three times a week, walk at least 3-5 miles a day with the dog and do at least 5 workouts a week.
I find it works very well for me. To be fair my AW6 was enough for me to ditch my Garmin, and the Ultra just made things better for me.

I find the action button useful, and the flat screen is much easier to see at a glance whilst running.
The larger screen makes it easier to see key metrics at a glance.

Whilst my Garmin worked, I found the interface clunky and not intuitive and was happy to switch to AW.
Initially I thought I’d still use both but quickly gave that up and went with just one device.
So I think it’s fair to say the AW and indeed the Ultra may not suit some athletes, but it does suit some some very well.
We are all different ands have different likes and dislikes, and that is great.
😀👍
 

michelob tfs

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I returned the watch. Runners need more than one button, we need one to mark a lap, another to pause a run, buttons to change the display. One button doesn’t work for runners, maybe it works for joggers. Runners don’t want to look at a screen to press buttons when we are running hard. We want to press then look.

And the buttons need to be on the right side. You don’t want to reach around.

And it’s to thick and square on the sides to sleep with. It woke me up at night.

I traded it in for the 8 and I will continue to use my $200 garmin for running.

This watch is not for runners. I doubt it works well for other athletes either.
You talk like you speak for all runners
 
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PaladinGuy

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So are we expecting to see the Ultra in the refurbished section of the Apple Store anytime soon?

I doubt it. Apple doesn’t sell Edition or Hermes watches as refurbished. It’s not standard business practice for products marketed as luxury to be sold at discount. Maybe they’ll view it as more utilitarian and not luxury. Who knows?

My guess is that they will offload them to other third parties to sell used/opened units.
 
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