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iPhone X Returning Xs/Xs Max and Getting the Xr...
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WiFi issues with iPhones and other Apple products is nothing new... with third party WiFi routers. That's exactly why I switched to an all Apple Airport network in my house years ago. All the issues pretty much disappeared when I adopted Airport.
Now that Apple no longer makes Airports, I would strongly lean toward buying other WiFi systems that Apple sells, like the Linksys mesh system.
Then I wonder what accounts for the difference. A couple of years ago one of my Samsung displays gave me some eye strain, but not the same kind of problems I’ve had recently. Then again, my iPhone X gave me different symptoms and over a different time frame than I had this time with the Max, which is why at first I didn’t think I’d be unable to keep the Max.
However, as I’ve posted on a different thread, something about the last couple of days with my Max has sensitized my eyes to all flicker and I had trouble with grocery store lighting yesterday evening and yes, could not stand to look at my S9+ display either.
Overall the display of three of my current Samsungs and my husband’s Huawei don’t usually seem to cause me any issues. But my Pixel 2 is as problematic as my Max, which is why I couldn’t keep it as a daily driver or secondary phone for as long as I would have liked. That display is also made by Samsung.
I wish more was known about what actually triggers pwm problems because I love a nice OLED display and would really love to use any phone without a care.
Nah, I’m not gonna play that game with Apple. I’ve never had one issue with my home setup and connectivity until the Xs Max. And I’ve owned every iPhone since day one...
I saw something odd yesterday on my last bit of time with my Max. I was reading on the Max and I tilted my hand down and saw I dropped a bar on the WiFi indicator. I found it would fluctuate as I turned my phone up and down on an angle. But then it would stop for a bit then I was able to do it again. I never saw any of my phones or iPads do that before. Oh I’ve seen the indicator fluctuate before but not due to me pointing them up and down.
I wasn’t too concerned about that because I’ve not really noticed any problems with WiFi performance, just LTE. And by then I was already resigned to giving up the phone over the problems with my vision and migraines.
I’ve read the lg v30 is the best OLED display in terms of pwm. I’m going to be buying one and I’ll follow up in the eye strain thread on here. It also has an incredible hifi dac for anyone who has some decent wired headphones.
All I will say about the V30 is be careful of burn in.
A few short weeks after it was released I went and checked one out in my local CarPhoneWarehouse and the screen had the worst burn in I had ever seen in a phone (well, it's the only burn in I've ever witnessed tbh).
Granted, these display mods scroll through the same set of images all day every day, which a normal users phone wouldn't, but the OLED in the V30 was renowned for burn in, so just be sure to check it out first.
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On topic though, I am soooo excited for the release of the XR.
I have the XS Max currently, and I like the phone but now I've installed a glass screen protector and bought a case for it, it feels so heavy. Too heavy now.
The size isn't too much of an issue for me, but the smaller XR will definitely be welcome. I also like that the XR is thicker. Weird as it sounds I think it will help with feel in the hand.
Still torn over what colour. I do think I will end up with yellow as I think it looks so damn amazing, but the white looks clean and I could be tempted that way. I'm just glad I don't want red, as that's the one that I think will be tricky to get hold of. Red aint my bag.
Roll on reviews (hopefully before pre-order day but I doubt it) to keep us tided over until it's out!
Hi Aneres11, do you no longer have your P20?All I will say about the V30 is be careful of burn in.
A few short weeks after it was released I went and checked one out in my local CarPhoneWarehouse and the screen had the worst burn in I had ever seen in a phone (well, it's the only burn in I've ever witnessed tbh).
Granted, these display mods scroll through the same set of images all day every day, which a normal users phone wouldn't, but the OLED in the V30 was renowned for burn in, so just be sure to check it out first.
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On topic though, I am soooo excited for the release of the XR.
I have the XS Max currently, and I like the phone but now I've installed a glass screen protector and bought a case for it, it feels so heavy. Too heavy now.
The size isn't too much of an issue for me, but the smaller XR will definitely be welcome. I also like that the XR is thicker. Weird as it sounds I think it will help with feel in the hand.
Still torn over what colour. I do think I will end up with yellow as I think it looks so damn amazing, but the white looks clean and I could be tempted that way. I'm just glad I don't want red, as that's the one that I think will be tricky to get hold of. Red aint my bag.
Roll on reviews (hopefully before pre-order day but I doubt it) to keep us tided over until it's out!
I’m liking yellow, coral and blue. Of course I like all the colors but I haven’t had a yellow or coral phone before so I’m most closely looking at those.
When I put a glass protector on my iPhone X last year it felt heavy. Then I put an OtterBox on it and it felt like a brick! This time around I put a much lighter case on my Max. I’m hoping the XR will feel lighter to me after being used to carrying the Max and a Plus.
Hey GM!
No, the P20 went when I got the KEY2 - should have stuck with the P20 tbh. Great device.
And yeah I'm hoping the same. The heavier Max now might go some way to making the XR feel even lighter.
I have a case which is a clear back but black round the sides and it makes the phone look like it has larger bezels all the way round now too. So another thing to get accustomed to so it isn't as jarring on the XR!
I definitely think I'll go yellow. I always like the yellow 5c but ended up with a blue one. Still loved it, but the blue this time round isn't doing it for me.
I am still so torn... I really like my Xs and with the stuff I bought a change to the act wouldn’t even safe much money...
But today after reading a bit my eyes felt tired and I switched to my iPad Pro and went on without problems... really a tough call... especially cause I love the gold finish and don’t really like any of the Xr’s colors...
If I am going to return it, I just put my phone with the charger, cable and EarPods in the box and just bring it to the store right? Nothing to do online for it?( I did an in-store pickup and the help pages don’t really help me much.. and luckily I never had to return any apple gear so far...)
But today after reading a bit my eyes felt tired and I switched to my iPad Pro and went on without problems... really a tough call... especially cause I love the gold finish and don’t really like any of the Xr’s colors...
If I am going to return it, I just put my phone with the charger, cable and EarPods in the box and just bring it to the store right? Nothing to do online for it?( I did an in-store pickup and the help pages don’t really help me much.. and luckily I never had to return any apple gear so far...)
Yes you can take it back to the Apple Store. Sometimes they even let you keep the accessories but it depends on the employee.
I’m sorry for the display is bothering your eyes. Same here. Sigh.
I’ve owned my XS for less than a week. It’s a serious upgrade to my aging 6s plus but, I’m returning tomorrow and going to preorder the XR when available. The mult color selections, the longer battery life and the slightly larger screen are the biggest reasons.
Something that really bothers me about the XS is case manufacturers aren’t designing specific cases for this phone but rather claiming compatibility between the X and XS and it’s hit and miss.
I could care less about the camera differences or the chassis material. I’ve read the XS isn’t selling particularly well and I’m sure that people like myself are holding out for the XR or purchasing the MAX.
Something that really bothers me about the XS is case manufacturers aren’t designing specific cases for this phone but rather claiming compatibility between the X and XS and it’s hit and miss.
I could care less about the camera differences or the chassis material. I’ve read the XS isn’t selling particularly well and I’m sure that people like myself are holding out for the XR or purchasing the MAX.
I'm curious, do you notice the crisper text of the XS over the 6s? I definitely notice the XS/Max and 7 Plus' clarity improvement over my wife's 6s. The 6s is pretty decent, but the XS and 7 Plus are still better for text clarity.
Usually this sorts this out in a couple of months. What's probably going to happen now is most of them will create an XS compatible model that fits both the X and XS.
It was the same thing with screen protectors. The 7 Plus screens are the same dimensions as the 6/6s Plus, but the layout isn't 100% identical. People selling the 6/6s Plus screen protectors just said they were 7 Plus compatible, when they were only mostly 7 Plus compatible. This changed within a few months.
Can you spot the difference?
7 Plus on left, 6 Plus on right.
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Returning my XS tomorrow due to the PWM issues and blue shift causing me nausea. Looking to go to the XR just for the LCD screen.
Only problem is my phone is the "Get One" of a recent AT&T BOGO we did. Selling it will be a pain (since it is Next Locked), so I think my wife and I will both return ours and HOPE that we can convince someone once the pre-orders open on the XR to let us do the BOGO again on the line we just opened.
Only problem is my phone is the "Get One" of a recent AT&T BOGO we did. Selling it will be a pain (since it is Next Locked), so I think my wife and I will both return ours and HOPE that we can convince someone once the pre-orders open on the XR to let us do the BOGO again on the line we just opened.
My Xs also arrived with a scratch on the screen. From what I’ve read it’s pretty common. It’s not the type of scratch that’s glaring unless your putting a screen protector on it under direct lighting. The screens are less prone to cracking/breaking but are more prone to fine scratches.
Which is it? You bet your house or you're just guessing? I soak in all posts that make no sense.
First time posting...
Received the Xs Silver 256gb Friday, opened on Saturday and returned on Sunday.
Its clearly the best phone on the market, the oled screen is amazing, camera captures evrything and its very fast.
I left apple 2 years ago due to increases in price and they got me back.. But 1149 pound is too much, the worry for extra payments on insurance, possible accidental damage was too much.
I couldn't make my mind up on keeping it or not. I am intrigued by the Xr but cant honestly say if I will get it or not.
My favourite iPhone was probably the iPhone 5!
Enjoy the xs if you have it, fingers crossed the Xr will suit people too!
I wish android and apple could combine the best of both worlds.. Maybe someday.
Thanks
Received the Xs Silver 256gb Friday, opened on Saturday and returned on Sunday.
Its clearly the best phone on the market, the oled screen is amazing, camera captures evrything and its very fast.
I left apple 2 years ago due to increases in price and they got me back.. But 1149 pound is too much, the worry for extra payments on insurance, possible accidental damage was too much.
I couldn't make my mind up on keeping it or not. I am intrigued by the Xr but cant honestly say if I will get it or not.
My favourite iPhone was probably the iPhone 5!
Enjoy the xs if you have it, fingers crossed the Xr will suit people too!
I wish android and apple could combine the best of both worlds.. Maybe someday.
Thanks
Really the major thing that I don’t find attractive about the XR, is the LCD display, I gather it’s 828P and it will suffice for the majority of iPhone consumers who will see the new form factor, Face ID, wireless charging, new color, etc. But as a heavy tech enthusiast, LCD just seems dated to me and OLED as much as I do appreciate it, it does have its differentials that I really appreciate. But what I really look forward to is Micro- LED, which hopefully we will see in the next 2/3 years.
LCD is totally fine. The main disappointment with the XR screen is not that it is LCD. The main disappointment with the screen is the pixel density.
MicroLED is effectively vapourware for the foreseeable future. Won’t be on any 2020 iPhones. 2021 I don’t know but I wouldn’t count on it.
I don’t think ‘vaporware’ is fair a statement. We Just don’t have a ‘technical timeline’ yet, which is natural for unreleased tech. However, You can be almost guaranteed Micro Led is in testing phase via rumors, I don’t predict the iPhone to be the ‘first’ product to see this, the Apple Watch is likely in more of a smaller batch display would see this first, followed by the iPhone. [Such as OLED was the first debut on the Apple Watch, followed by the iPhone]. Its certainly coming. The Major advantages being far less power draw, increased significant brightness over OLED, which will result in much longer battery life and Micro-LEDs require significant less investment than traditional TFT LCD display panels to reach economies of scale. [It Also depend on Apples suppliers that they would have aligned necessary for micro LED in addition.]
For the record, Apple acquired Luxeview back in 2014, which is a company that actually is directly involved with Micro-LED development.
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