I hope it doesn't go away on MacBooks; I love the hard pressing of the touchpad to bring up the dictionary for words I don't know.
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iPhone X Returning Xs/Xs Max and Getting the Xr...
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I hope it doesn't go away on MacBooks; I love the hard pressing of the touchpad to bring up the dictionary for words I don't know.
Yeah that I have no idea of. I doubt it though. Totally different technology I think.
Regardless, the XR looks like it's going to be a very good phone, it was what I was going to go for initially (despite no 3D touch) before I got swayed by the XS Max. I wonder how noticeable the screen size will be compared with the Max.
Saying that, I came from the X and the 8.
Saying that, I came from the X and the 8.
Can’t live with cellular connectivity issues on my XS Max. So, preordered XR.
Of course I don’t know yet because I haven’t held one in hand, but on paper the Xr screen size looks like the sweet spot to me. Had the Max and felt it was a little too big, tried a regular Xs and felt too small... So we shall see.
I was saying the other day that the Max fits in my jeans pocket comfortably and, while I know it's there, it's not something I worry about.
At the beginning of 2013 I had the Sony Xperia Z which was one of the first phones to have a 5" full HD screen. The screen was awful and I couldn't fit it in my pocket comfortably - large and sharp bezels, that phone was a failure. It's amazing how manufacturers have gotten the screen right over the past few years and eliminated (nearly) the bezels.
At the beginning of 2013 I had the Sony Xperia Z which was one of the first phones to have a 5" full HD screen. The screen was awful and I couldn't fit it in my pocket comfortably - large and sharp bezels, that phone was a failure. It's amazing how manufacturers have gotten the screen right over the past few years and eliminated (nearly) the bezels.
Agree to disagree. I experienced it first hand. Just visit https://marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html and try it for yourself. You’ll see the checkerboard after the screen turns to gray. Make sure screen stays on during the test. LOL Have fun!
Agree to disagree. I experienced it first hand. Just visit https://marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html and try it for yourself. You’ll see the checkerboard after the screen turns to gray. Make sure screen stays on during the test. LOL Have fun!
They were talking about Burn-In which is completely different from Image Retention. Every OLED has IR. That’s the nature of technology. Marco Arment’s test is an extreme scenario used to detect faulty LCD screens. I remember when people used it to see the difference between LG and Samsung LCDs on Retina MBPs. Try it on any OLED - phone or TV - and of course you’ll get IR: Apple, Samsung, LG - every OLED. However, it’s not an issue in regular usage. It’s not. If you notice it during regular use, you may have a defective panel.
IR is not a reason to avoid an OLED. Neither is Burn-In. Which was my point from the beginning: not an issue.
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Again, let’s agree to disagree. IR is ugly. It does not happen on LCD iPhones, at least none of mine. And I suspect it doesn’t occur on the Xr either. I’m not a huge OLED fan yet. I prefer more mature technology. Maybe OLED will get there someday.
Sure, but OLED technology is over 30 years old, and was present on phones for more than a decade. It is a mature technology. It also provides some of the highest image quality and will continue to do so until MicroLED becomes mainstream.
IR does not happen in regular use on an iPhone X/XS. There are reasons one may prefer an LCD, but IR is not one of them. If you noticed IR during regular use - you may have had a bad panel. Some panels, although rare, are more prone to IR. Same with every technology, there are special cases.
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You’re right, there are reasons to prefer LCD, and I do. You do realize it’s ok to agree to disagree right? You’re wasting your energy trying to convince me. Have a nice day.
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1-2 and 3 are absolutely NOT “fixable” through any sort of update. 5 is questionable at this point due to the antenna design. And why buy a phone that needs “fixing” in the first place...?
Yes and the iPhone uses a Samsung screen so I wouldn’t expect it to have any issues. I had my X for 9 months and I had no issues. I don’t expect to have any with my max.
I’m not trying to convince you OLED is better for you. Apple LCD is great and iPhone XR looks like a great phone. However, iPhone X/XS - unless faulty - does not suffer from Image Retention during normal use and claiming it does is may lead people to wrong conclusions. That is all I’m saying. Again, prefer LCD screens - it’s perfectly fine. There are some things LCDs do better than OLEDs and vice versa. There are also things that are common to both: like the fact are both mature screen technologies that don’t suffer from IR in regular usage scenarios.
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It’s no more a Samsung screen than A12 is a TSMC cpu. Samsung just provides the factories to produce an Apple design. LG was also suppsed to produce that design, but it seems Apple didn’t include them this year either. It’s not the same screen as those that Samsung uses.
TLDR: it’s an Apple screen.
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LOL OLED is not a mature technology. If it were it would have been being used in iPhones day one, since you are seeming to insinuate that it is so great and without issues. And for the last time, IR is a problem and we can agree to disagree.
What’s to disagree - IR is a problem. All I’m saying it doesn’t happen on properly working iPhone screens during regular usage. I assume you had some on yours - but other than that Arment test, there shouldn’t have been any, so I can only assume you had a bad screen. Are you disagreeing with that statement? You’ve seen IR on other iPhone XS phones?
OLED is a mature technology which is precisely why Apple have chosen to adopt it now.
OLED has matured over the years, so I agree with you with On that. But I disagree that that’s why Apple chose it. Apple chose OLED because they want to give the consumer a reason to upgrade to something that offers differences from the previous version Gen iPhones with LCD , which OLED is a significant impact on the viewing experience, which is likely a direct result that they offered it with the 10th anniversary iPhone.
I don’t think Apple would have used it if it wasn’t mature enough though.
You are not getting any of those things when you use a carrier installment plan. You are not opening a line of credit and it doesn’t report on your credit bureau
Apple chose Samsung as there main OLED supplier, which Samsung has been manufacturing OLED panels for years, the maturity is there as I mentioned, but I don’t think that’s why Apple chose OLED ‘just because’. I think they were trying to make advancements with the next GEN iPhone X, which OLED is a significant improvement over LCD, and they wanted to make the more ‘monumental’ changes with form factor, OLED and face ID for the X.
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You can “disagree” about image retention, but you’re still wrong. Image retention is not a factor on iPhones. It’s never noticeable in daily use and has absolutely zero relevance. It only shows up in novelty tests like the one you linked to.
You’re wrong.
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It’s not mature enough or they would of figured out issues like IR and PWM.