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Running Windows 11 on a Mac Discussion [Merged]
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Today I tried to install Win 11 22000.51 with boot camp on my Mac Mini 2012 (using the trick to disable the TPM), but when the boot arrives the Mac restarts and an error message comes out.
Do you say that you can't install this old computer in any way or is there any other reason?
Do you say that you can't install this old computer in any way or is there any other reason?
I was able to install the leaked version onto an external USB 3 SSD using Hasleo's WinToUSB.
I am currently downloading the official version 22000.51 and will see how that goes.
I was not able to install the leaked version under Bootcamp.
How were you both able to do so? I'm getting an error stating that TPM and RAM are preventing the install. M1 MBA, Parallels, Insider builds.
I'm installing it from Windows 10 Insider build (running in parallels) in the Dev ring. (just using normal update)
I will probably will be in the same boat with my MacBook Pro 2012. There will be another issues besides the TMP as the DirectX 12 support, thought our old GPU does not handle it. There is people already working on this but for common notebooks and PCs, not Macs. Thought is a matter of time. Also I saw a guy running it in an old notebook so probably will work fine in our old macs, as Big Sur.
I know, replying to my own posts...
However, I have installed Insider Build version 22000.51 on an external USB.
It works nicely.
Installation is a bit more tidied up than the leaked version.
Once installed, some things are a bit different.
- I can't show all the icons from under the caret on the task bar. I normally like to have them all showing, but I can't find the setting to do this*.
- Control Panel is still there, but some items have been moved to Settings.
- If you click on Network icon in File Explorer, Map Network Drive no longer shows, but is now available under 'Show More Options'.
* Ok, under the Setting 'Taskbar Corner Overflow', I can move some things (like Boot Camp Manager and Windows Security) out from under the caret, but not everything (like Bluetooth Devices).
How odd. Sounds like we have identical setups, but I wasn't able to proceed. 11 starts to download, then the updater runs a check and says my machine doesn't meet the aforementioned TPM and memory requirements. Hmm 🤔
Well, my PC doesn't have any TPM setting in the BIOS, so I guess I don't have one.
I predict Windows 11 will gain... 2% market share at 1 year after release. How incredibly confusing and frustrating.
I have quite different prediction. Think Windows 11 will have about 30% of market share in one year. The update is free and the OS is, at list visually, better that 10. Those who have eligible PCs will be migration, why not?
Also the Android integration will have some impact in the Apple-macOS-iOS world, considering that MS cloud services are already good enough to fight for this growing market.
Also the Android integration will have some impact in the Apple-macOS-iOS world, considering that MS cloud services are already good enough to fight for this growing market.
It depends on if it's free or not, and how much pain it will be. (what it doesn't run and things people don't like.)
But not many people in Windows world would bother anyway. I'd be extremely surprised if it's as high as 10%. Too early to tell though. It's a solid beta, but it's still a beta!
They'd probably be better off erring on the side of caution than letting people upgrade and regret it (Vista scenario?). 7th gen Intel to 8th gen was the last fairly big jump, given it brought 4 core U series and 6-8 core H. Windows 10 is pretty stable and well received by now so a lot of people won't mind staying on it given ongoing security support until 2025 or so. By the time 2025 comes, most machines from around 2016-17 will probably have been replaced or be near to anyway.
It depends on not being a new Vista, I am thinking about a similar path as 10.
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I think they don't know exactly what methodology to take for the requirements - they are using this beta as "balloon d'essai". Thought we are in a time that most of system requirements is made to drop hardware away. They don't want to support old hardware and manufacturers wish to sell new devices etc.. It's different from a jump to 32 to 64 bits - what exactly means a jump from DirectX 11 to 12 for an OS considering not everybody will use the PC to play?
By the way, thought Bill Gates and Melinda could help us to convince Microsoft to keep some "light 11" to run on old PC's, to keep as many as we can in the updated OS community, it's already hard enough outside!
Just wondering if there's anything we can do while in Windows 10 to make Windows think I'm on a Kaby Lake cpu rather than Skylake so I can download Windows 11...? Thanks.
I'm running it in a VM on a Linux box. It's UI is pretty awful. Hopefully give back some menu options that are really missing.
Currently running Windows 11 on Boot Camp. Just installed it as an update over Windows 10. The Insider Preview does not have the TPM requirement.
October 2020 Intel MacMini 16/512 with Boot camp - unable to join Insider program. Said it didn't meet requirements. I assume lack of TPM 2.0.
Did install on Surface Go (4/64!) and Laptop 2 - impressed and was looking forward to running on my Mini. Also, Go2 has optional privacy greyed out blocking insider program.
Did install on Surface Go (4/64!) and Laptop 2 - impressed and was looking forward to running on my Mini. Also, Go2 has optional privacy greyed out blocking insider program.
Interesting. It did on mine, which is why I went the long route to create a special installer ISO.
Maybe they have updated the Insider Preview.
It runs really well. I did read that once it hits RTM the TPM requirement will be there, so any Insiders may have to revert back to Windows 10.
If you were already in the Insider Dev program, you would be offered the build through Windows Update. There was a cut off date to join it, think it was the end of June sometime.