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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 Design Flaw
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Because some people are calling it good design
Right, that is what is getting me too. Samsung shouldn't be excused here. And worse, they shouldn't be commended. Brand loyalists, wow.
Exactly. Great points made.
Its pure ignorance to call it a design flaw. A design flaw would be if it was super difficult to get the stylus out or if the holder had a tendency to expand when the phone is warm and made the stylus fall out.
At the end of the day it holds the S Pen, it does exactly what it was designed to do.
I can't remember....did you say you had a Note? Maybe a Note 4? Have you ever used one?
The Note sensor will remind you once the pen is slid into the slot. The sensor does not know whether the pen is being inserted correctly or not. Just that something has passed the sensor. So insert it correctly little vibration....insert it incorrectly.....same little vibration. So the Note 4 does not tell you it is being inserted incorrectly.
Then you want them make all of these across the board changes for the 10 people that inserted the stylus in backwards by mistake.........
Mountain meet mole hill........
Who is commending them or calling it an awesome design?
I don't think they are to blame. Again got put a tank load of the incorrect fuel into a two cycle lawn equipment device and try and use it. Same with E85 into a boosted car. See if the injectors and fuel pump keep up.
User error is huge here. It's right up there with sitting on your phone.
Note 1, still have it! I don't know about the sensor, those were the suggestion of the article that was linked here.
Anyways, keep defending the corporation. People are stupid. I see that mantra won't change.
Oh no, fuel guy is back. I am out!
Nobody is defending a corporation. We are defending the need for people to be logical when using the SPen as with everything else in life and you are clutching at meaningless straws.
Yep, it would be best you leave, I agree. We can't help someone who is not capable of seeing the bigger picture.
Cheers!
Nobody is defending a corporation. We are defending the need for people to be logical when using the SPen as with everything else in life and you are clutching at meaningless straws.
Yep, it would be best you leave, I agree. We can't help someone who is not capable of seeing the bigger picture.
Cheers!
I don't need your help and could say the same for you. Cheers.
Funny...I don't see it as defending a corporation. Because to me this is not about a corporation. More about what is right and wrong.
I don't care who the corporation is I would still be here saying the same things.
I don't understand why anyone would prefer and fight for a change like this
The pen not being wider at the top creates better user experience?
The pen not being wider at the top creates better user experience?
This is an horrible and unacceptable design flaw. It's too easy to do. Huge issue.
RTFM is not a real answer.
RTFM is not a real answer.
He wants to turn it into a fanboy thing, but its not going his way.
I think you and I have criticised Samsung a lot to prove that we do not care about the corporation.
At the end of the day, putting the stylus in the wrong way will end in it breaking functionality, that is user error. If you use something the wrong way that is the risk.
Its plain and simple logic.
Lol, I can't believe this is still such a big deal lol. You are suppose to put in the pen one way, that's it. Common sense and logic should be enough. You accidentally put the pen in backwards, it's your fault, the pen is not promoted as a reversible pen. You accidentally drop the phone in water, too bad, it happens, but it was the users fault, the phone isn't promoted as being waterproof. I don't own the Note 5, and I don't like it for various reasons, but never once did I try putting the S-Pen in my Note 4, bottom side first, not even by accident. I always found this so hilarious to think people were doing this. This is really so stupid lol.
It is just like a replaceable battery. If you buy a cheap one online and it fits on your phone, but your phone burns up, it's not the company's fault, regardless if you know if the battery is fake or not. Should they remove replaceable batteries to prevent people from doing it by accident? No. An S-Pen is even easier, pointy side goes in first. lol.
It is just like a replaceable battery. If you buy a cheap one online and it fits on your phone, but your phone burns up, it's not the company's fault, regardless if you know if the battery is fake or not. Should they remove replaceable batteries to prevent people from doing it by accident? No. An S-Pen is even easier, pointy side goes in first. lol.
Fanboy is the only conclusion I can make for you defending such a poor design choice like this. It absolutely boggles my mind you could defend it.
Seems you think I am wrong calling out the designers for it.
I don't see how your point is logical but mine is not. I think Samsung would agree they made the wrong choice as well.
And you can bet samsung will agree and make a change to prevent it again in the note 6
Because the change for the note 5 provides no tangible benefits, only introduces possibility for user error
Good engineering companies don't let things like this happen. A highly occurring user error is a design flaw. If you put the wrong fuel in your Ferrari, it doesn't blow up, it is engineered to prevent user error. If you tried to put the 30 pin connector into your phone the wrong way, it wouldn't break your phone, it would just not work.
1) The stylus is not clearly meant to be inserted one way (Stylus fits in backwards, a well designed product wouldn't allow that misuse)
2) The stylus causes permanent damage to your phone (again, tech companies often go out of their way to prevent damaging misuse cases)
3) Samsung insults the end user by telling them RTFM. Embarrassing for an industry that values usability above all else.
This is the worst "gate" since antenna gate. It has actually unseated Touchwiz as Samsung's biggest blunder.
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Oh, certainly. It's just embarrassing that Samsung ran hundreds of man hours of testing only to have this become an escapee.
I'm sorry, but I disagree with you, it's just so ridiculous to hear people putting in the pen backwards. When I first saw that thread in AC, I really thought the issue was that you couldn't put the pen in upside down, with the samsung logo and the action button facing down. I thought it was ridiculous that Samsung would not allow the pen to be inserted that way and it would damage the phone. I didn't even bother reading that thread. Not until they began covering this, that I saw that people were inserting it back end first. I just have to laugh, it's so ridiculous lol. I guess we'll disagree on this because it's hilarious, especially that guy who did it on video, knowing what happens and he did it anyways lol. WOW is all I have to say.
Yes, putting a connector the wrong way, won't break the phone, it may damage the port, but it won't break it. Same way as inserting the pen in backwards, hahaha, won't break the phone, it will just prevent the S-Pen from working well when you insert it into the silo, the phone continues to work.
Inserting a cheap battery you buy online into your phone, can damage your phone, and we've seen that many times. Should replaceable batteries be removed from phones so people won't be able to commit this "error"? Just because they have the option of being able to replace the battery?
I think it's more embarrassing for a grown up to spend 20-50yrs on earth living in society going to college, working in a promising career only to not know how to put a stylus with a writing tip and a blunt end in the correct way. I mean how often are people walking around with the pointed end of a pen or pencil sticking out of their pocket? Darwin awards to all those that can't do it right.
Excuse me while I get a closer look at the sun setting through my telescope.
Because one idiot put his S Pen in backwards , now suddenly it's a highly occurring user error? If someone puts his car in drive instead of reverse and crashes his car, obviously a design flaw.
Welcome to the world of 2015 where there is no longer any personal accountability. Perhaps all those impacted could pull together a class action suite and make $1.
No one in this thread is calling for a class action lawsuit. No one is saying there should be a recall. And everyone who does this accidentally will feel like an idiot the second they realized what happened. They will know they screwed up and will take accountability for it.
The point is premium devices should be made better than this. Perhaps stop rushing **** out to market and test a little better. That is all we are saying. Everyone on this thread agrees the phone would be better designed if it prevented this from happening (idiot-proofing if you will). Because we all make dumb mistakes sometimes. And sure, if you buy the phone knowing this will happen, and are cool being out the functionality if it does happen, then great. It is your money. No one is preventing you from buying it. And those who don't like it, won't buy it.
So enough of the slippery slope comments, jeesh. This isn't a commentary on personal responsibility in the world as much as some of you are trying to make it that.
The point is premium devices should be made better than this. Perhaps stop rushing **** out to market and test a little better. That is all we are saying. Everyone on this thread agrees the phone would be better designed if it prevented this from happening (idiot-proofing if you will). Because we all make dumb mistakes sometimes. And sure, if you buy the phone knowing this will happen, and are cool being out the functionality if it does happen, then great. It is your money. No one is preventing you from buying it. And those who don't like it, won't buy it.
So enough of the slippery slope comments, jeesh. This isn't a commentary on personal responsibility in the world as much as some of you are trying to make it that.
It's not called "personal accountability". It's called quality design. Samsung failed on this one. Big time.
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