Because there is a staggering lack of knowledge in the realm of usability on an Apple forum. There are also a number of people defending a second rate OEM which clearly lacks a competent test suite.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 Design Flaw
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I'm still waiting to see where people were commending this design and now where people are stating they actually prefer this implimentation. I think you're confusing the lack of tollerance for user accountability as it relates to devices of all kinds with praise.
Many simliar designs situations have been pointed out in this thread with even more costly and damaging consequences and people enjoy said products without issue every day. Somehow a smart phone makes those people dumb. Interesting.
Now excuse me while I remove the Lithium Ion Batteries my wife accidently put in our recharging station as they are the same color as the rechargables we have and what do you know, they fit! Wouldn't want them to explode or cause a fire.
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I've never said I endorse or commended the design. My argument all along has only revolved around users own accountability with their lack of common sense around the use of the Note 5 and countless other products with simliar impacts when comment sense is not present.
So in other words you believe the design is okay and doesn't need to be changed. Too bad it surely will be changed. Because the current choice doesn't make sense.
I feel like I'm getting trolled
In exact words, I think someone who is dumb enough or just plain careless to actually insert a stylus backwards then they probably shouldn't be trusted with my lawn equipment, the proper use of many kitchen appliances, borrowing any of my cars or handling of sharp objects.
If the phone doesn't have a replaceable battery, there is no way a user can make that mistake since the battery can't be replaced by the user. On a phone with a replaceable battery, the user can buy a cheap battery, thinking it's from the OEM and completely ruin their phone. Because the phone allows the user to insert an improper battery, it becomes the same issue as, if the pen fits backwards, then it's a design flaw. So with that logic, phones with replaceable batteries have a design flaw because it allows the user to insert a bad battery.If you buy a cheap third party battery that breaks your phone, that isn't Samsung's responsibility as far as design. That's very different to a stylus they have designed with expensive consequences from a simple mistake. There we are though. I'll never make this mistake in any case.
Lets say people buy a cheap wall charger and cable thinking it's from the OEM, because their original one broke. It turns out to be fake and it ruins their phone. Is it the OEM's fault because they allowed fake charger to be used?
A design flaw would be that the S-Pen would have a sharp tip and it would scratch up your screen every time you wrote on it. A flaw is that if the Pen would get stuck while inserting it correctly..... If this thread was titled "The Note 6 should have a redesigned S-Pen to prevent idiots from inserting it back end first," it would have been a reasonable title and discussion. But when you view the current S-Pen on the Note 5 as a design flaw, as the thread title points out to, it's ridiculous. Insert the sim card improperly, damage the tray, the phone continues to work but the sim tray is damaged. Not a design flaw, just people not paying attention to the simple things. A pen is even easier to understand than a sim card.
Niether should the stupidity and carelessnes of users. It's that tollerance and protecting everyone from themselves that has led to us being a society of idiots who now forget they have kids in the back of their own cars and need warning lables on sun tan lotion that states for Internal Use Only.
Again, research the ongoing case about people suing over Pushbutton start and forgetting to turn off their own cars. The crux is they are saying it's the manufacturers fault they parked their own car in the garage and left it running because there's now no key to remove. All that despite the bells and warnings and messages that pop up reminding them to do so. Pathetic. In response GM is now raising the cost of vehicles as they are engieering in proximity sensors that will in turn shut a vehicle off. Why....because 12 individuals out of millions were idiots and don't want to take responsibility for being dumb.
Blah blah blah, stop trying to distract
Would you like other oems to remove proven features that prevent user error, just because?
Why not remove failsafes from everything then? Because that is bad engineering.
It is going to be interesting to see what is reported, or not, regarding this. Time will tell.
Because you are.....these are just a typical "all these rules are in place because....stupid.....you can't fix stupid... haha redneck comedy tour" asshats. There is no gray area for them. Everyone is stupid to them and it applies to everything in life. Everyone just wants to be spoonfed to them. It is all black or white. So you will never find a middle ground. They are just soapboxing this on the example of a spen right now and it is.......stupid.
Distract where dude. You're avoiding every situation I've noted because you know they are accurately stated.
Again, have I ever stated I supported this design? Nope.
Do we really need a fail-safe for a stylus? Really? How about a fail-safe for when I drop my phone it doesn't shatter. I think that gets a lot more use per year than stylus removals due to stupidity.
Those analogies are not relevant because they did not have a perfectly fine feature to prevent user error in previous generations of the product that was then removed for no tangible benefit or reason.
None of that matters. If anything it's less relevant. Previous designs that prevented a stylus from being put in backwards don't impact new users and the liklihood of an existing user screwing up is even lower as we all know how to properly do it!
Again, my gas pump scenerio is perfect. Diesel pumps were retro'd long before E85 was available and people have been using both 4 cycle and 2 cycle equipment side by side for decades. Should I sue candy companies for not putting a peanut allergy warning lable when my asprine has an allergy warning lable? Are there people allergic to peanuts accidently dying because they are eating Reese's Cups?
Please.....I've already noted that I see your point but let's not conitnue to make a big deal about nothing for the sake of a stupid person or someone who is mindlessly playing with a nearly $1k phone.
I look forward to your protests against the note 6 when they revert back to their previous methodology then.
^^^ exhibit 535 in this thread
Attention Samsung, we need you to redesign the stylus and impliment an I-D-1-0-T Error protect switch.
ahahahahhaa.... so funny! haven't heard that one. oh wait, my grandma forwarded me that email chain 10 years ago.
Sounds like a savvy Grandma. Do you give her enough credit to put a stylus away correctly or does your family need a fail safe switch for her?
oooooh burn. did you give yourself a high five? actually she was near blind for a good part of her life and had lots of assistance devices to help her with through the day. but in your eyes, she was just an dumbass who couldn't RTFM. she was so stupid she had to have everything idiot proof. we would tell her that all the time.
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