This just out....don't drive the wrong way down a one way street and don't drive backwards down any street. The results of doing so will be called user error.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 5 Design Flaw
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This just out....don't drive the wrong way down a one way street and don't drive backwards down any street. The results of doing so will be called user error.
One example of bad design is the iPhone's lightning cable. No matter how much you take care of them they kink near the connector and stop working. Two original lightning cables stopped working on me after 3 months. Then finally decided to get an aftermarket one from RadioShack. I've never had an issue with the one from RadioShack.
Honestly the real design killer for me about the Note 5 is the use of a glass back. I am shocked that they thought that was a good idea. I mean it was horrible on the iPhone and even they switched away from it. Thankfully with the latest update to 5.x my Note 3 is fast and will last for another year if not more. No need to upgrade.
Now, I'm off to create a thread at Lenovo's site as I'm ticked that one of the little feet that holds my keyboard up in the back broke after I mistakingly pushed it the wrong direction to fold it as I cleaned my desk. What a flaw in their design....what were those engieers thinking when they wouldn't allow me to move the feet backwards even a slight bit.
Yep, the actual connector is a good concept but the way it's been designed to receive the cable is poor design. I'm on my second cable with the iPhone 6 and I think I had 3 with the iPhone 5.
We call it design that could be improved but if Samsung had done it, you bet these guys would be excusing it and just putting it down to user error. It's all about the brand.
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Same here! I hate the glass back, part of the reason why I like my Note 4 is due to the faux leather textured back, makes it grippy and comfy to hold and use. Another thing, the metal they use on the S6, S6 Edge, S6 Edge+ and Note5 is not grippy, the entire design makes the phone slippery.
The Note5's glass back also cracks easily, going by the drop test.
Oh look at us, such fanboys we are
criticising the corp.LMAO!
Dude, like OMG! That is a major design flaw, nail that damn Lenovo, they didn't consider anybody, that is poor engineering design, they were so ignorant. This says a lot about their engineering. And so on and so forth...
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Same here! I hate the glass back, part of the reason why I like my Note 4 is due to the faux leather textured back, makes it grippy and comfy to hold and use.
LMAO!
Dude, like OMG! That is a major design flaw, nail that damn Lenovo, they didn't consider anybody, that is poor engineering design, they were so ignorant. This says a lot about their engineering. And so on and so forth...
Lenovo engineering has gone to **** since IBM sold them off. They are a shell of what they once were.
This thread should renamed to:
What We Believe Could Have Been Done Better on Everything Ever Made....or just 'Could've Been Better'.
I'd like to throw in Nokia, the clips of the back covers of Nokia Nseries phones used to be weak, they'd break after a few months. They could have made those stronger.
I'd also like to throw in Sony's flaps on the water resistant Xperia phones, they can break, could also have been built better.
What We Believe Could Have Been Done Better on Everything Ever Made....or just 'Could've Been Better'.
I'd like to throw in Nokia, the clips of the back covers of Nokia Nseries phones used to be weak, they'd break after a few months. They could have made those stronger.
I'd also like to throw in Sony's flaps on the water resistant Xperia phones, they can break, could also have been built better.
I think the title is fine. It's the often pointless and desperate examples thrown forward to much amusement that has steered the discussion onto other products. We've had everything from stamping on accelerators and driving through houses to blaming manufacturers about the amount of water on the planet!!! Haha.
The fact is we were discussing a stylus that could have had the most minimal effort put into its final conception by adding a taper or notch to stop it being forced backwards into a device. The paths this discussion has taken is bizarre in the extreme.
Someone blamed the manufacturers for the amount of water on the planet? Or are you desperately trying to tailor what was said in a way that strengthens your point?
don't bother answering.People put forward great examples, those who didn't like them, didn't say they took away from the little straw they were clutching, over a stylus that clearly indicates how it should be placed by the way it is designed.
Someone blamed the manufacturers for the amount of water on the planet? Or are you desperately trying to tailor what was said in a way that strengthens your point?don't bother answering.
People put forward great examples, those who didn't like them, didn't say they took away from the little straw they were clutching, over a stylus that clearly indicates how it should be placed by the way it is designed.
damn I can't emoji....fail. I am an idiot. User error, right?
Good design today should indeed prevent a device from breaking instantly, even with water spilled on it:
An even better design in that regard comes from the likes of Sony with their Xperia line. And even though some of the premium manufacturers (like Apple or Samsung) don't make their flagship devices as sturdy as Sony, they should at the very least try to avoid using material or technologies that completely break a device through very "light" user errors, such as inserting a pen wrongly without force, accidentally spilling fluid, or dropping a phone (short fall).
Yes, most devices are not designed as well as they could and - in some cases - should be. This isn't anything new and neither exclusive or limited to gadgets but extends to pretty much any product. It's why we have premium built or "flagship" products in the first place.
The Note 5 is very well designed and premium. The mechanism of the Note 5's pen feature isn't due to its fragility. That's hardly an overreaction.
Worked on Tapatalk.
Don't be so hard on yourself bra, you see, I knew you would end insulting yourself eventually.
Worked on Tapatalk.
Don't be so hard on yourself bra, you see, I knew you would end insulting yourself eventually.
+1+1+1 LMFAO. I should sue Macrumors. User error right? Cause that is what everyone is saying here right? User error. I am such a dumbass.
+1 bro
Take note, the Sony water resistant devices are known to fail, and Sony take no responsibility.
Sue Macrumors as it is user error.....okayyy, right bro
Please don't be so hard on yourself man
For those still hung up on this, I say again... SIM CARD TRAY.
Every smartphone comes with instructions on how to remove and install a SIM card to their phone. It can only come out and go in one way. It's very easy to re-insert incorrectly. It's often hard to tell which way is the right way. In some cases (ala the Nexus 5; look it up!) if the SIM tray is inserted incorrectly, it will get jammed.
Some people have said, well, you don't pull out the SIM tray that often. I say, so what? There's still only one way to do it; the correct way. Some people have said, well, the consequences aren't as dire. I agree that it's scary that the consequences are worse for the Note 5, but ultimately, that's just an unfortunate circumstance.
However, none of that says it's a "design flaw" (the title of this thread) unless you can say every manufacturer has committed a design flaw in their smartphone SIM trays. Damaging your Note 5 with the S Pen can only be done if you insert it incorrectly, aka the wrong way. That sentence alone should absolve Samsung from a design flaw.
Having said that...
Could Samsung have done better?
That's a fair question. And the honest answer is, yes. Samsung could have informed the public better, too, about this.
No one -- as far as I can tell -- is arguing that Samsung shouldn't address this both on a customer service level and in the next iteration of the Note, or even as early as the next wave of Note 5's to be manufactured. Please stop this straw man. No one doesn't want this issue fixed for Note 5 owners or the future of the Note series. At least no one worth listening to anyway.
Also, please stop the whole "children or handicapped people can easily re-insert this incorrectly and so it's Samsung's fault for not addressing this" argument. Not only is this a false example, it's also a sinister use of children and handicapped people just to claim Samsung's designs are poor and/or flawed.
The bottom line to me seems to be this:
1) Samsung could have prevented this or at least been more informative about this.
2) At the same time, Note 5 users need to be aware of what can happen, and follow instructions as per Samsung's design and intent. You ought to put the stylus back correctly. Because just like many things, doing so incorrectly can lead to undesirable results.
That should be the end of the convo without needing radical examples or car engines or extreme accusations using handicapped people.
It's really time to move on.
For now, put the stylus back correctly when using a Note 5, and hopefully Samsung does better in the future.
Every smartphone comes with instructions on how to remove and install a SIM card to their phone. It can only come out and go in one way. It's very easy to re-insert incorrectly. It's often hard to tell which way is the right way. In some cases (ala the Nexus 5; look it up!) if the SIM tray is inserted incorrectly, it will get jammed.
Some people have said, well, you don't pull out the SIM tray that often. I say, so what? There's still only one way to do it; the correct way. Some people have said, well, the consequences aren't as dire. I agree that it's scary that the consequences are worse for the Note 5, but ultimately, that's just an unfortunate circumstance.
However, none of that says it's a "design flaw" (the title of this thread) unless you can say every manufacturer has committed a design flaw in their smartphone SIM trays. Damaging your Note 5 with the S Pen can only be done if you insert it incorrectly, aka the wrong way. That sentence alone should absolve Samsung from a design flaw.
Having said that...
Could Samsung have done better?
That's a fair question. And the honest answer is, yes. Samsung could have informed the public better, too, about this.
No one -- as far as I can tell -- is arguing that Samsung shouldn't address this both on a customer service level and in the next iteration of the Note, or even as early as the next wave of Note 5's to be manufactured. Please stop this straw man. No one doesn't want this issue fixed for Note 5 owners or the future of the Note series. At least no one worth listening to anyway.
Also, please stop the whole "children or handicapped people can easily re-insert this incorrectly and so it's Samsung's fault for not addressing this" argument. Not only is this a false example, it's also a sinister use of children and handicapped people just to claim Samsung's designs are poor and/or flawed.
The bottom line to me seems to be this:
1) Samsung could have prevented this or at least been more informative about this.
2) At the same time, Note 5 users need to be aware of what can happen, and follow instructions as per Samsung's design and intent. You ought to put the stylus back correctly. Because just like many things, doing so incorrectly can lead to undesirable results.
That should be the end of the convo without needing radical examples or car engines or extreme accusations using handicapped people.
It's really time to move on.
For now, put the stylus back correctly when using a Note 5, and hopefully Samsung does better in the future.
Sue Macrumors as it is user error, right bro
Please don't be so hard on yourself man
Totally bro. I am suing them because I can't make the crying emoji icon. Cause no one in the world takes personal responsibility any more. Everyone just wants to sue everyone for a dollar. And that is totally what everyone is saying here. Those straw clutchers, they just gloss over everything. They haven't addressed anything in the last 392 posts. But our ****, that's locked tight. We always keep it relevant.
++++++1 bro!
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Exactly! Great points.
And the use of kids, disabled people and insulting family members was utterly desperate and downright disgusting just to try prove a weak point.
+++++1 No one has responded to this yet. They are stumped. Great points man. They are for sure wrong.
Has everything to do with it. Some Z models had/have heat issues even when used litely or just for pics, which then caused the glue to weaken and rear glass to lift, making them no longer water resistant.
Those guys are totally weak. Disgusting. +1 What are those disabled people doing trying to use phones. Just disgusting.
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You'll be trying to tell me there is such a thing called guided access on an iPhone next for partially sighted people! Lol
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