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This is some crazy speed. Looks like the Note 9 network speed destroys iphone x by 100% at times. Sheesh
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Loving the battery life test. Unfortunately the iphone x comes in last spot. From watching this video, I'm not sure what's worse, the notch or the battery life.
 
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This is some crazy speed. Looks like the Note 9 network speed destroys iphone x by 100% at times. Sheesh
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Loving the battery life test. Unfortunately the iphone x comes in last spot. From watching this video, I'm not sure what's worse, the notch or the battery life.
What is surprising is how well the Note 9 does compared to the P20 pro which has the same battery capacity. The Note 9 really has it all, most complete smartphone on the market.
 

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I've always liked everythingapplepro's comparisons, he doesn't have bias considering he's an Apple guy. His test are reasonably thorough and use common apps, his photoshop tests emphasize the advantage the iphone has with its custom soc.

What I did find interesting is the result considering the supposed huge advantage the apple soc is supposed to have, the result doesn't match the advantage show using benchmarks.

These test really show how irrelevant benchmark tests are on their own, ala tomsguide.

The Note 9 is a beast of a phone in all departments, it's almost tempting but I'll still plod along with the Note 8 for a while.


Bring on more tests with exynos and the 8gb model.

edit, found a vs from Vietnam with the exynos...
 
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I've always liked everythingapplepro's comparisons, he doesn't have bias considering he's an Apple guy. His test are reasonably thorough and use common apps, his photoshop tests emphasize the advantage the iphone has with its custom soc.

What I did find interesting is the result considering the supposed huge advantage the apple soc is supposed to have, the result doesn't match the advantage show using benchmarks.

These test really show how irrelevant benchmark tests are on their own, ala tomsguide.

The Note 9 is a beast of a phone in all departments, it's almost tempting but I'll still plod along with the Note 8 for a while.


Bring on more tests with exynos and the 8gb model.
Yeah, I'd really like to see a speed test between the 8gb and 6gb versions.
 

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It's a shame that despite monster specs, Samsungs are always less snappier than competitor phones. The results of a similar comparison against the OnePlus6 would probably yield embarrassing results. However the Note 9 is powering a spectacular display with much higher resolution.
 

Klyster

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It's a shame that despite monster specs, Samsungs are always less snappier than competitor phones. The results of a similar comparison against the OnePlus6 would probably yield embarrassing results. However the Note 9 is powering a spectacular display with much higher resolution.

I wouldn't be embarrassed but yeah, it is a little faster at loading apps where the Note seems better at memory management, according to the video.
Granted, these are early days...
 
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Jetcat3

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This is some crazy speed. Looks like the Note 9 network speed destroys iphone x by 100% at times. Sheesh
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Loving the battery life test. Unfortunately the iphone x comes in last spot. From watching this video, I'm not sure what's worse, the notch or the battery life.

Almost double the battery capacity. What’s impressive is not that the iPhone X was last, but how close the margin was. The iPhone X display is also pulling almost twice as much power at full brightness over the Note 9.
 
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Almost double the battery capacity. What’s impressive is not that the iPhone X was last, but how close the margin was. The iPhone X display is also pulling almost twice as much power at full brightness over the Note 9.
Where did you see those numbers? The Note 9 has a bigger display and higher resolution. So how could the iPhone X be pulling twice the power?
The iPhone x displays 625 NITS (brightness measurement)
Note 9 displays 825 NITS (brightness measurement)
 
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Where did you see those numbers? The Note 9 has a bigger display and higher resolution. So how could the iPhone X be pulling twice the power?

Check DisplayMate for those numbers.
Full white background Note 9=2.1 Watts @ 454 nits. iPhone X=3.25 Watts @ 634 nits.

50% average picture level such as games and movies: Note 9=1.1 Watts @ 454 nits. iPhone X=1.75 Watts @ 700 nits.

When you switch to cinema and basic modes the brightness drops to 372 nits on the Note 9.

It’s all about manual brightness.
 

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Check DisplayMate for those numbers.
Full white background Note 9=2.1 Watts @ 454 nits. iPhone X=3.25 Watts @ 634 nits.

50% average picture level such as games and movies: Note 9=1.1 Watts @ 454 nits. iPhone X=1.75 Watts @ 700 nits.

When you switch to cinema and basic modes the brightness drops to 372 nits on the Note 9.

It’s all about manual brightness.
I did check displaymate

Here are the links. But I still don't see twice the power as you said......Then those examples are kinda nick picky.
The larger brighter higher resolution Note 9 display versus the smaller not as bright lower resolution display iPhone X and it pulls twice as much power than the Note 9?

The iPhone x displays 625 NITS (brightness measurement)
Note 9 displays 825 NITS (brightness measurement)

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note9_ShootOut_44N9.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm
 

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I did check displaymate

Here are the links. But I still don't see twice the power as you said......Then those examples are kinda nick picky.
The larger brighter higher resolution Note 9 display versus the smaller not as bright lower resolution display iPhone X and it pulls twice as much power than the Note 9?

The iPhone x displays 625 NITS (brightness measurement)
Note 9 displays 825 NITS (brightness measurement)

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note9_ShootOut_44N9.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm

The Note 9 can only achieve those levels of brightness in extremely high levels of ambient light. Watch the video and it’s clear to see how much brighter the iPhone X is in comparison. I’ve compared these two displays in the last couple of days and the only way to boost the brightness level of the Note 9 is to take it outside in the Sun or watch an HDR video.

The Note 9 is only pulling between 1.1 Watts in that test vs the X at 1.75 Watts.
 
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The Note 9 can only achieve those levels of brightness in extremely high levels of ambient light. Watch the video and it’s clear to see how much brighter the iPhone X is in comparison. I’ve compared these two displays in the last couple of days and the only way to boost the brightness level of the Note 9 is to take it outside in the Sun or watch an HDR video.

The Note 9 is only pulling between 1.1 Watts in that test vs the X at 1.75 Watts.
Yet the N9 display was rated to be brighter. Then 1.1 watts to 1.75 is not twice the power.

I have the iPhone X and was at BB yesterday to checkout the N9. The N9 display at manual full brightness was brighter than the X at full manual brightness to my eyes.....
 

Jetcat3

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Yet the N9 display was rated to be brighter. Then 1.1 watts to 1.75 is not twice the power.

I have the iPhone X and was at BB yesterday to checkout the N9. The N9 display at manual full brightness was brighter than the X at full manual brightness to my eyes.....

Its rated for higher brightness ONLY under certain conditions. I can have 630-700 nits at any time on the iPhone X.

Again, when you’re indoors and not watching an HDR video, the iPhone X will be much brighter and pull much more power over the Note 9. I’ve tested these extensively. Go to any store and put the iPhone X on max brightness next to the Galaxy S9, Galaxy S9+, and Note 9 in a store on a white webpage and you’ll see what I’m talking about. It’s very evident from the video itself.
 
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Its rated for higher brightness ONLY under certain conditions. I can have 630-700 nits at any time on the iPhone X.

Again, when you’re indoors and not watching an HDR video, the iPhone X will be much brighter and pull much more power over the Note 9. I’ve tested these extensively. Go to any store and put the iPhone X on max brightness next to the Galaxy S9, Galaxy S9+, and Note 9 in a store on a white webpage and you’ll see what I’m talking about. It’s very evident from the video itself.
I did just that yesterday and the N9 was brighter than my X was at BestBuy

So you're saying the Note 9 is more optimized than the X? It uses less power?
 

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Check DisplayMate for those numbers.
Full white background Note 9=2.1 Watts @ 454 nits. iPhone X=3.25 Watts @ 634 nits.

50% average picture level such as games and movies: Note 9=1.1 Watts @ 454 nits. iPhone X=1.75 Watts @ 700 nits.

When you switch to cinema and basic modes the brightness drops to 372 nits on the Note 9.

It’s all about manual brightness.

Thanks for the info.

The iPhone X did look brighter in the video.

So other than playing back hdr and using the note 9 in a high ambiant light environment, the iPhone X is brighter.

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Your completely right.

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Jetcat3

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I did just that yesterday and the N9 was brighter than my X was at BestBuy

So you're saying the Note 9 is more optimized than the X? It uses less power?

Maybe you did experience that. I can only speak from my own experience and the data from DisplayMate backs up what I saw.

Haha I’m saying if Samsung gave you the ability to use 710-825 nits at any time you’d zap that 4,000 mAH battery in a jiffy. It would probably pull 4.3 Watts with a full white background. It annoys me that I can’t have access to those brighter levels at any time on Galaxy phones. I also don’t use auto brightness so I’d be capped at much lower brightness levels.
 
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jamezr

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Maybe you did experience that. I can only speak from my own experience and the data from DisplayMate backs up what I saw.

Haha I’m saying if Samsung gave you the ability to use 710-825 nits at any time you’d zap that 4,000 mAH battery in a jiffy. It would probably pull 4.3 Watts with a full white background. It annoys me that I can’t have access to those brighter levels at any time on Galaxy phones. I also don’t use auto brightness so I’d be capped at much lower brightness levels.
The Note 9 has a higher rated brighter display and consumes less power. In my side by side tests the N9 was brighter to my eyes at full brightness.
 

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The Note 9 has a higher rated brighter display and consumes less power. In my side by side tests the N9 was brighter to my eyes at full brightness.[/QUOTE]
The Note 9 has a higher rated brighter display and consumes less power. In my side by side tests the N9 was brighter to my eyes at full brightness.

No. Wattage was listed at the lower brightness levels (454 nits). DisplayMate did not measure what the power consumption was for the higher levels of brightness.

They would most certainly be much higher than the iPhone X given the amount of display area and higher resolution.
 

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The Note 9 has a higher rated brighter display and consumes less power. In my side by side tests the N9 was brighter to my eyes at full brightness.


No. Wattage was listed at the lower brightness levels (454 nits). DisplayMate did not measure what the power consumption was for the higher levels of brightness.

They would most certainly be much higher than the iPhone X given the amount of display area and higher resolution.[/QUOTE]
But you said the on post #584
The iPhone X display is also pulling almost twice as much power at full brightness over the Note 9

Then where did you get these numbers if DisplayMate did not measure it? That doesn't rise to twice in my book
The Note 9 is only pulling between 1.1 Watts in that test vs the X at 1.75 Watts.
 
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The Note 9 has a higher rated brighter display and consumes less power. In my side by side tests the N9 was brighter to my eyes at full brightness.

Don't fall for it, it's nonstop excuses with these guys. The iPhone comes last, and they look at every possible way to minimize the damage on Apple's image. Just look at the speed test from everythingapplepro. Encoding 4k video? Really? Who the hell does that on their phone. It was the only way to give the iPhone a chance. In every other speedtest on YouTube, the S9+ already destroyed the X. With that said, I really prefer not to give any of these speedtest any attention. We simply don't use our phones like this. Regardless, as long as the iPhone uses Samsung OLED, Samsung always wins. I don't give a company credit for calibrating a display. The credit goes to the company that did all the heavy lifting, innovating display tech to where it is today.
 

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Messed with the Note9 again at an early Target run this morning. Gosh dang am I ready for this phone.
 
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Don't fall for it, it's nonstop excuses with these guys. The iPhone comes last, and they look at every possible way to minimize the damage on Apple's image. Just look at the speed test from everythingapplepro. Encoding 4k video? Really? Who the hell does that on their phone. It was the only way to give the iPhone a chance. In every other speedtest on YouTube, the S9+ already destroyed the X. With that said, I really prefer not to give any of these speedtest any attention. We simply don't use our phones like this. Regardless, as long as the iPhone uses Samsung OLED, Samsung always wins. I don't give a company credit for calibrating a display. The credit goes to the company that did all the heavy lifting, innovating display tech to where it is today.

It is a bit suspicious that the iPhone X had the Most Color Accurate AMOLED Display and then all of a sudden the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 magically had color accurate displays. TrueTone is also so nice to use on an everyday basis.

If DisplayMate gave credit to Apple for the textbook calibration among other things they did to that AMOLED, I think we all should too.
 
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Don't fall for it, it's nonstop excuses with these guys. The iPhone comes last, and they look at every possible way to minimize the damage on Apple's image. Just look at the speed test from everythingapplepro. Encoding 4k video? Really? Who the hell does that on their phone. It was the only way to give the iPhone a chance. In every other speedtest on YouTube, the S9+ already destroyed the X. With that said, I really prefer not to give any of these speedtest any attention. We simply don't use our phones like this. Regardless, as long as the iPhone uses Samsung OLED, Samsung always wins. I don't give a company credit for calibrating a display. The credit goes to the company that did all the heavy lifting, innovating display tech to where it is today.
I agree with you. I don't care about speed tests or benchmarks. I actually care about user experience more than anything else. Pick whatever works for you and use that.
 

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It is a bit suspicious that the iPhone X had the Most Color Accurate AMOLED Display and then all of a sudden the Galaxy S9 and Note 9 magically had color accurate displays. TrueTone is also so nice to use on an everyday basis.

If DisplayMate gave credit to Apple for the textbook calibration among other things they did to that AMOLED, I think we all should too.

Actually, DisplayMate gave credit to Samsung first for developing and manufacturing the OLED display. Take a pause for a second. Can you imagine if a company in China took the iPhone, and changed only the look of iOS to their liking. Nothing else under the hood of iOS, only the look of it, very slightly. Then presented and sold that phone as their very own. Now imagine millions upon millions of the Chinese population loyal to that phone without a fault, and giving that Chinese company full credit for coming up with such a phone. Not even mentioning how Apple did years of work creating iOS. Just imagine how shameless that would look. Imagine the loyal users of that Chinese company and its new phone, being completely blind to how everyone else is telling them, " Hey, they just rearranged a few things and just changed the look of iOS little bit. It's all Apple that created the original." kinda nutty.
 
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