Samsung Galaxy Note 9

[spinedoc77]

It's fine for browsing Web pages and in apps. However it becomes a problem when watching videos. You either get stuck with a tiny viewing area akin to having an iPhone 8 or you get part of the picture cut out by the notch.

I don't understand, 16:9 video wouldn't fill the entire screen anyway. The issue here is really the narrow aspect ratio, which pretty much all phone makers are guilty of these days. It's not like the video stretches over the bezels on a Samsung phone anyway. Sure you get a smaller video, but that seems obvious if you have a smaller screen. Once again chalk it up to the "fake" screen sizes that are being touted this year. Play a 16:9 video on a Samsung, or any other current narrow phone and you won't get a video the size of the full screen size, unless you stretch it or cut off the top/bottom and zoom it.

Of course I can appreciate the Note has a larger screen than the X, but I don't think that was being contested. A notch is still a bezel with the sides cut off, but with the ability to have the sides act as part of the screen instead of just sitting there doing nothing. I can't wait for the X-plus later this year as the X is also too small for my poor eyes.

 

[torana355]

The strong rumours of a 4000mah battery is the thing that excites me the most about the note 9. It's the only thing about my S9 plus that isn't perfect imo.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I don't understand, 16:9 video wouldn't fill the entire screen anyway. The issue here is really the narrow aspect ratio, which pretty much all phone makers are guilty of these days. It's not like the video stretches over the bezels on a Samsung phone anyway. Sure you get a smaller video, but that seems obvious if you have a smaller screen. Once again chalk it up to the "fake" screen sizes that are being touted this year. Play a 16:9 video on a Samsung, or any other current narrow phone and you won't get a video the size of the full screen size, unless you stretch it or cut off the top/bottom and zoom it.

Of course I can appreciate the Note has a larger screen than the X, but I don't think that was being contested. A notch is still a bezel with the sides cut off, but with the ability to have the sides act as part of the screen instead of just sitting there doing nothing. I can't wait for the X-plus later this year as the X is also too small for my poor eyes.

Yes zooming on these narrow aspect phones does crop the picture but the notch makes it worse as there is a big cut out on one side of the picture.

 

[spinedoc77]

Yes zooming on these narrow aspect phones does crop the picture but the notch makes it worse as there is a big cut out on one side of the picture.

I can see your point if you stretch/zoom video, which you would have to do on a Samsung as well, but it's not an issue on either phone if you watch the content in the format it was intended to be viewed in. Still, I see your concern and it's a valid one, although for me personally the cutout does not bother me at all.

I think Apple should have had a 3rd mode where video only stretches to the end of the notch, and the rest of the screen around the notch gets blacked out, essentially giving you a full bezel when watching video zoomed/stretched. It would not be my preference, but I can understand it would be good to have the choice.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I can see your point if you stretch/zoom video, which you would have to do on a Samsung as well, but it's not an issue on either phone if you watch the content in the format it was intended to be viewed in. Still, I see your concern and it's a valid one, although for me personally the cutout does not bother me at all.

I think Apple should have had a 3rd mode where video only stretches to the end of the notch, and the rest of the screen around the notch gets blacked out, essentially giving you a full bezel when watching video zoomed/stretched. It would not be my preference, but I can understand it would be good to have the choice.

I don’t think it will be an issue for me on the X plus because the screen is big enough not to need to stretch it to fill the screen. The X is too small when not stretched, as I said it’s like having an iPhone 8.

However for web browsing and apps it’s fine. The notch doesn’t bother me then. It’s only when I’m watching videos.

 

[powerslave12r]

Does an unlocked Note 8 let you un-install Samsung software and other apps Samsung may have partnered with?

Been trying to decide if I want to upgrade to this or the Note 9.

Thanks.

 

[bgro]

Will the camera on the Note 9 be better than the 8? I want to make sure the pictures that will get sent to my contacts without my knowledge come out good.

Cmon Samsung it’s crap like this that keeps me away.

 

[spinedoc77]

Will the camera on the Note 9 be better than the 8? I want to make sure the pictures that will get sent to my contacts without my knowledge come out good.

Cmon Samsung it’s crap like this that keeps me away.

Lol, but really not funny. I don't think a day goes by where there is not a headline about some privacy issue with Google, Android, or something associated with them. What was it yesterday, that developers can read your Gmail or something like that. Today I read some researchers found that many Android apps take screenshots of your phone and send them to 3rd parties. I wonder what I will read tomorrow...

 

[sunking101]

Will the camera on the Note 9 be better than the 8? I want to make sure the pictures that will get sent to my contacts without my knowledge come out good.

Cmon Samsung it’s crap like this that keeps me away.

I've had an iPhone send SMS to the wrong people before.

 

[Oohara]

Screen is supposed to be 6.3" correct? I'm really surprised they are letting Apple leapfrog over them in screen size. Granted Apple's phone will have a slightly narrower aspect ratio, but no one will care because the bullet point that consumers look at is the screen size. Apple leapfrogged over Samsung with their bezel, and now the screen size. Can anyone imagine if Apple announced pencil support ?!?!!? It's crazy how some things reverse themselves if given enough time, with the possibility of Apple actually having the better "phablet".

So I read your comment a couple of weeks back and was going to reply expressing my slight miffedness at Apple getting away with stating the diagonal measurement including the "ears" as actual screen size. But today I realised that the X display is actually wider (and not just taller) than the that of the 8, so if Apple uses the same relation for the X Plus to the current 8 Plus - that means the X Plus will have a wider display than the 8 Plus, meaning also wider than that of the Note 8 and 9!

And that's the key point for me in determining which display is actually larger - the portrait width. I'm not too fussed about the extra length or pixel covered flaps on top or whatever we get from these new long formats. But the width, that's the key factor for me, since it defines most of the content size.

All in all then, the X Plus probably really will have an effectively larger display than the next Note. And as biggest screen size ultimately is my top priority, it looks like I'll have to settle with an iOS device again... Would be absolutely awesome get such a big display though.

PS. My wet dream - that they make it compatible with Apple Pencil and tailor at least some of their core software to that. Might as well, seeing as the display will be so big. Not sure if that'd count as aping the Note though...in which case it'll of course never happen.

 

[michael9891]

All in all then, the X Plus probably really will have an effectively larger display than the next Note. And as biggest screen size ultimately is my top priority, it looks like I'll have to settle with an iOS device again...

I’m confused. Why would you ‘settle’ for a device you’d rather not have to just gain a very small amount of extra screen size? Each to their own but disregarding everything else for a screen size you’ve never had before doesn’t make sense to me.

 

[sunking101]

So I read your comment a couple of weeks back and was going to reply expressing my slight miffedness at Apple getting away with stating the diagonal measurement including the "ears" as actual screen size. But today I realised that the X display is actually wider (and not just taller) than the that of the 8, so if Apple uses the same relation for the X Plus to the current 8 Plus - that means the X Plus will have a wider display than the 8 Plus, meaning also wider than that of the Note 8 and 9!

And that's the key point for me in determining which display is actually larger - the portrait width. I'm not too fussed about the extra length or pixel covered flaps on top or whatever we get from these new long formats. But the width, that's the key factor for me, since it defines most of the content size.

All in all then, the X Plus probably really will have an effectively larger display than the next Note. And as biggest screen size ultimately is my top priority, it looks like I'll have to settle with an iOS device again... Would be absolutely awesome get such a big display though.

PS. My wet dream - that they make it compatible with Apple Pencil and tailor at least some of their core software to that. Might as well, seeing as the display will be so big. Not sure if that'd count as aping the Note though...in which case it'll of course never happen.

You would seriously begrudgingly move to iOS because the display is a fraction bigger?

 

[spinedoc77]

You would seriously begrudgingly move to iOS because the display is a fraction bigger?

Wider is nicer for those of us who despise the new taller/narrow form factor. IMO it's even more of an issue on Samsung phones because the curved edges make their phones even narrower.

 

[sunking101]

Wider is nicer for those of us who despise the new taller/narrow form factor. IMO it's even more of an issue on Samsung phones because the curved edges make their phones even narrower.

Nobody was complaining about the iPhone 5 when it came out all tall and thin...
I actually like the fact that I can use my Note 8 one handed a lot of the time. Although sceptical at first the thinner screens are proving very helpful.


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Lol, but really not funny. I don't think a day goes by where there is not a headline about some privacy issue with Google, Android, or something associated with them. What was it yesterday, that developers can read your Gmail or something like that. Today I read some researchers found that many Android apps take screenshots of your phone and send them to 3rd parties. I wonder what I will read tomorrow...

Lots of Apple owners use Gmail and I'm an Android user who doesn't. All the free email clients are dodgy so I use a paid for client. No email is secure though unless the sender and receiver both use an encryption service...

I can't wait for the big Apple exposé when you all find out that they aren't as secure as you think.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Nobody was complaining about the iPhone 5 when it came out all tall and thin...
I actually like the fact that I can use my Note 8 one handed a lot of the time. Although sceptical at first the thinner screens are proving very helpful.


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Lots of Apple owners use Gmail and I'm an Android user who doesn't. All the free email clients are dodgy so I use a paid for client. No email is secure though unless the sender and receiver both use an encryption service...

I can't wait for the big Apple exposé when you all find out that they aren't as secure as you think.

I do like the move towards bezeless displays but I can’t say that I prefer the new aspect ratios. Being able to hold a device in one hand or even that comfortably has never been a real desire of mine. I’ve always favoured screen real estate over anything related to form factor. I have small hands and have been using phablets since 2012 so it’s never been an issue. I’ve never seen an iPhone X and S9 side by side (I have the S9 plus) but from what I’ve read the iPhone X is wider whilst the S9 is taller. I miss the older form factor as the X is a downgrade in terms of real estate from my iPhone 7 Plus.

What I will say is that Samsung have handled usability with the new aspect ratio far better than Apple have. I dread to think how difficult it’s going to be reaching up into the right hand corner on the x plus to get to my control panel or to the top of the device to access my notifications. Yet Samsung have done well to allow you to swipe down anywhere on the screen to access these features or to use the fingerprint sensor on the back. Apple would do well to steal the former feature Imo.

 

[Oohara]

I’m confused. Why would you ‘settle’ for a device you’d rather not have to just gain a very small amount of extra screen size? Each to their own but disregarding everything else for a screen size you’ve never had before doesn’t make sense to me.

You would seriously begrudgingly move to iOS because the display is a fraction bigger?

Wider is nicer for those of us who despise the new taller/narrow form factor. IMO it's even more of an issue on Samsung phones because the curved edges make their phones even narrower.

Well let me put it this way. Screen size is the most important factor for me, so I'm willing to put up with losing the perks of having Android to get the biggest one. That's as long as the rest of the phone isn't too unreliable of course - I've seen a few other phones with giant screens go by but from manufacturers I didn't trust/too oddball phones.

I say the perks of having Android, because it's not like I totally can't stand iOS. My main problem with it is that text input & editing isn't as intelligent as on Android using for example Swype. But I'm willing to sacrifice that to get the bigger screen.

As spinedoc says, the curved edges on Samsung phones IMO make their screens effectively smaller than their measurement, because content under the curve itself gets warped and is subject to more light reflection. That's how I see it anyway, others will have a different preference. So even though the Note 8's screen is slightly bigger than that of the 8 Plus for example (ca 4 mm), they're effectively the same size to me. (Again, portrait width being the determining factor.) Meaning that if the X Plus has a yet bigger display by another ca 5 mm, that'll be more than a fraction of an increase for me.

Basically look at the display width difference between an 8 Plus and a Note 8 - hardly visible. Between the iPhone 8 and the X though it's very visible. If the same visible difference is present between the 8 Plus and the X Plus then I can live with sacrificing the advantages of Android to get the noticeably bigger display.

EDIT: and right after writing this I learn that Swype has in fact been discontinued both on Android and iOS. What the hell...the keyboard with the slickest functions of all, like very fast and intuitive c/p/x...best mobile computer keyboard version around OK that's one thing less I'd miss on Android then lol.

 

[Tsepz]

Screen is supposed to be 6.3" correct? I'm really surprised they are letting Apple leapfrog over them in screen size. Granted Apple's phone will have a slightly narrower aspect ratio, but no one will care because the bullet point that consumers look at is the screen size. Apple leapfrogged over Samsung with their bezel, and now the screen size. Can anyone imagine if Apple announced pencil support ?!?!!? It's crazy how some things reverse themselves if given enough time, with the possibility of Apple actually having the better "phablet".

This makes no sense, as when you watch a video /movie/IGTV you will either have a dead Pixel effect on the side of the notch ruining the immersiveness of the screen therefore undoing the whole "bezeless" look, OR the video having to compensate for the notch and blackout the side with the notch, creating a smaller viewing area that is in effect less than the the actual screen size, and in actuality creating the forehead bezel to remove the "ears" LOL.

But as you were...

 

[Tsepz]

I don't understand, 16:9 video wouldn't fill the entire screen anyway. The issue here is really the narrow aspect ratio, which pretty much all phone makers are guilty of these days. It's not like the video stretches over the bezels on a Samsung phone anyway. Sure you get a smaller video, but that seems obvious if you have a smaller screen. Once again chalk it up to the "fake" screen sizes that are being touted this year. Play a 16:9 video on a Samsung, or any other current narrow phone and you won't get a video the size of the full screen size, unless you stretch it or cut off the top/bottom and zoom it.

Of course I can appreciate the Note has a larger screen than the X, but I don't think that was being contested. A notch is still a bezel with the sides cut off, but with the ability to have the sides act as part of the screen instead of just sitting there doing nothing. I can't wait for the X-plus later this year as the X is also too small for my poor eyes.

Some content makers haveadw their videos wider, so despite being 16:9, the area in which all the action happens is withing what you would see when blowing up the video on a 18.5:9 phone. So this whole excuse of a 16:9 video wouldn't fill the screen is quickly vanishing.

I am noticing it even when viewing Netflix on my Note8, I watched the 2nd part of Dave Chappelle's special in bed yesterday morning on my Note8 as I was too lazy to use my iPad or go down to the TV room and watch through my PS4, and to my surprise the show loomed great on my Note8 with its 18.5:9 ratio display.

 

[Oohara]

Alright so I did the math and it looks like my assumptions were wrong

If the X Plus display is 6.5" as rumoured, with the 19.5:9 aspect ratio that gives it a portrait width of 69 mm.
The Note 8 at 6.3" and 18.5:9 is 70 mm wide, and the Note 9 given the rumoured diagonal will be 71 mm wide.

Turns out the X Plus adding one inch to the 5.5" of the 8 Plus doesn't add as much width as the X adding one inch to the 4.8" of the iPhone 8. Duh lol.

So the Note 9 display will still be essentially bigger than that of the X Plus then, unless there are any surprises of course but I assume there won't be.

As you were folks

 

[spinedoc77]

Nobody was complaining about the iPhone 5 when it came out all tall and thin...
I actually like the fact that I can use my Note 8 one handed a lot of the time. Although sceptical at first the thinner screens are proving very helpful.


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Lots of Apple owners use Gmail and I'm an Android user who doesn't. All the free email clients are dodgy so I use a paid for client. No email is secure though unless the sender and receiver both use an encryption service...

I can't wait for the big Apple exposé when you all find out that they aren't as secure as you think.

Lol, how ironic that those fun pics end up describing Samsung's current phones much better. Well to be fair I feel pretty much the same with any of these newer 18:9 or worse phones, but man that curved edge really takes away a lot of screen real estate and makes the phone functionally narrower.

I doubt there will be any Apple privacy scandal, but that's purely only my opinion. Seems like everyone and their mother is hammering away at Apple (and others) to find something like that, yet Apple still comes up clean. Once again I am not saying it can't happen. Many factors are in place, such as your data being stored locally on the phone and Apple's hardware centric business model. Heck even one scandal will be nothing compared to the almost daily scandals Google/Android/Samsung and others have.
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This makes no sense, as when you watch a video /movie/IGTV you will either have a dead Pixel effect on the side of the notch ruining the immersiveness of the screen therefore undoing the whole "bezeless" look, OR the video having to compensate for the notch and blackout the side with the notch, creating a smaller viewing area that is in effect less than the the actual screen size, and in actuality creating the forehead bezel to remove the "ears" LOL.

But as you were...

If you are watching a video/movie in it's proper aspect ratio (most content) then you are going to have the left and right cut off on a 18:9 or 19:9 device. If you zoom it in to fill the entire screen then you will get the notch eating into the content, but will also cut off a portion of the top and bottom. I've already had this discussion and agreed that if you like to zoom/cut off your content then the notch isn't good aesthetically and I did suggest Apple should have had a 3rd mode where the sides of the notch are filled in all the way to the edges, instead of letting content go into those areas. Personally I like having video displayed across the entire screen, including the notch. But I can certainly understand someone who doesn't like that.

I don't understand though your gripe with having a software bezel. The notch IS a bezel, it just doesn't extend to either side. Functionally it provides a better experience because you get more screen real estate due to the status bar being placed around the notch, instead of under the bezel like most other phones. The issue arises with full screen content that doesn't display the status bar. Once again I feel Apple could have easily addressed this with a software bezel that the user controls such as other Android phones have.
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Some content makers haveadw their videos wider, so despite being 16:9, the area in which all the action happens is withing what you would see when blowing up the video on a 18.5:9 phone. So this whole excuse of a 16:9 video wouldn't fill the screen is quickly vanishing.

I am noticing it even when viewing Netflix on my Note8, I watched the 2nd part of Dave Chappelle's special in bed yesterday morning on my Note8 as I was too lazy to use my iPad or go down to the TV room and watch through my PS4, and to my surprise the show loomed great on my Note8 with its 18.5:9 ratio display.

That's good to know, I'll be on the look out for such content, although I rarely see something that was shot in 18.5:9. Do you know if that Chappelle special was specifically shot in 18.5:9? I guess it's helpful to some users, but don't forget Apple has an even narrower aspect ratio so the video would still be cutoff. Plus if it was shot in 18.5:9 aspect ratio it would have black bars above/below on non phone screens (TV's, computers, laptops, etc).

I don't know if that means the issue is "quickly vanishing", but maybe it is and I haven't been paying attention. But it seems like that would cause another issue altogether with non phone screens, unless TV's, laptops, etc all moved to 18.5:9 screens, which I highly doubt.

Personally I think the narrow aspect ratio that everyone is embracing is MUCH worse than anything the notch can be attributed to. I guess I don't understand griping about the notch when you have to watch full screen content letterboxed or zoomed/cut off because of the crappy aspect ratio.

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Alright so I did the math and it looks like my assumptions were wrong

If the X Plus display is 6.5" as rumoured, with the 19.5:9 aspect ratio that gives it a portrait width of 69 mm.
The Note 8 at 6.3" and 18.5:9 is 70 mm wide, and the Note 9 given the rumoured diagonal will be 71 mm wide.

Turns out the X Plus adding one inch to the 5.5" of the 8 Plus doesn't add as much width as the X adding one inch to the 4.8" of the iPhone 8. Duh lol.

So the Note 9 display will still be essentially bigger than that of the X Plus then, unless there are any surprises of course but I assume there won't be.

As you were folks

Well by your own estimate (which I agree with) you have to take away 4mm for the screen curvature. Making the N8 66mm wide and the N9 67mm wide versus the ipx+ at 69mm.

 

[sunking101]

Well by your own estimate (which I agree with) you have to take away 4mm for the screen curvature. Making the N8 66mm wide and the N9 67mm wide versus the ipx+ at 69mm.

Surely we're not going to swap o/s for a measly millimeter here and there? The Note screens don't curve as much as the Galaxy S models do but still, I woudn't swap for 2mm. It's funny how iPhone users are bothered about tiny differences in screen size now, and are saying that the Samsung Note line is too small. After years of being happy with tiny screens and calling phablets every name under the sun I find it hilarious.

 

[Sevanw]

Surely we're not going to swap o/s for a measly millimeter here and there? The Note screens don't curve as much as the Galaxy S models do but still, I woudn't swap for 2mm. It's funny how iPhone users are bothered about tiny differences in screen size now, and are saying that the Samsung Note line is too small. After years of being happy with tiny screens and calling phablets every name under the sun I find it hilarious.

Let's not forget how big bezels weren't a big deal, but now that the iPX has come out, Ohhh, now having small bezels are a necessity. Lol. Yet, the clueless still don't realize the S and Note line still have better screen to body ratio than the iPX. Then there's the notch. They've gone on and on about Apple's high standards for design. Yet having this massive notch cutting into your View is totally not a big deal, because apparently, you just don't notice it after a while. HAHAAAAAAA. Absolutely PATHETIC excuse. Guaranteed, when the notch is gone, they'll say they prefer not having a notch. They'll add that, even though they prefer no notch, they were OK with the notch. Guaranteed to happen! I honestly hope Samsung doesn't adopt the notch like the rest of the industry. I prefer minimal top and bottom bezels, or minimal top bezels and no bottom bezel over a disgusting notch.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Surely we're not going to swap o/s for a measly millimeter here and there? The Note screens don't curve as much as the Galaxy S models do but still, I woudn't swap for 2mm. It's funny how iPhone users are bothered about tiny differences in screen size now, and are saying that the Samsung Note line is too small. After years of being happy with tiny screens and calling phablets every name under the sun I find it hilarious.

Not me. I had the original galaxy note and only come back to apple when they brought out the 6 plus. Until then it was a hard pass from me and I started out with the iPhone 3G.
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Let's not forget how big bezels weren't a big deal, but now that the iPX has come out, Ohhh, now having small bezels are a necessity. Lol. Yet, the clueless still don't realize the S and Note line still have better screen to body ratio than the iPX. Then there's the notch. They've gone on and on about Apple's high standards for design. Yet having this massive notch cutting into your View is totally not a big deal, because apparently, you just don't notice it after a while. HAHAAAAAAA. Absolutely PATHETIC excuse. Guaranteed, when the notch is gone, they'll say they prefer not having a notch. They'll add that, even though they prefer no notch, they were OK with the notch. Guaranteed to happen! I honestly hope Samsung doesn't adopt the notch like the rest of the industry. I prefer minimal top and bottom bezels, or minimal top bezels and no bottom bezel over a disgusting notch.

I've already moaned about the notch in this thread I think.

 

[spinedoc77]

Surely we're not going to swap o/s for a measly millimeter here and there? The Note screens don't curve as much as the Galaxy S models do but still, I woudn't swap for 2mm. It's funny how iPhone users are bothered about tiny differences in screen size now, and are saying that the Samsung Note line is too small. After years of being happy with tiny screens and calling phablets every name under the sun I find it hilarious.

No I don't think I'd personally swap out for 4mm, certainly other factors are what make me stay on iOS, in this case a large factor is the non curved screen on the iphone. I also am not personally bothered by the minimal size difference, I was only pointing out (in my original rant) that I was surprised Samsung let Apple take the lead from them, which was later shown not accurate as the Note 9 will still remain slightly larger in terms of specs, although this is speculative as well if you count the notch area as screen real estate. I still say slightly larger in terms of specs because in my opinion the Note 9 will be narrower due to the curved edges, and of course still has full bezels top and bottom. Once again just my opinion, which can be completely the opposite for someone who likes and prefers the curved edges.

You should also be careful where you lay criticism, I'm the wrong person to be accused of "years of being happy with tiny screens and calling phablets every name under the sun" When in fact I'm a pretty diehard Note series user, have owned every single one (except the 8) since the first one, and have griped about Apple's small phones for years. It was not until I had to return 2 different Note 7's because of the explosion fiasco coupled with the iPhone 7 plus larger size that I switched over to iOS. There is a real danger in calling people names without knowing their story.
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Let's not forget how big bezels weren't a big deal, but now that the iPX has come out, Ohhh, now having small bezels are a necessity. Lol. Yet, the clueless still don't realize the S and Note line still have better screen to body ratio than the iPX. Then there's the notch. They've gone on and on about Apple's high standards for design. Yet having this massive notch cutting into your View is totally not a big deal, because apparently, you just don't notice it after a while. HAHAAAAAAA. Absolutely PATHETIC excuse. Guaranteed, when the notch is gone, they'll say they prefer not having a notch. They'll add that, even though they prefer no notch, they were OK with the notch. Guaranteed to happen! I honestly hope Samsung doesn't adopt the notch like the rest of the industry. I prefer minimal top and bottom bezels, or minimal top bezels and no bottom bezel over a disgusting notch.

Big bezels have always been a big deal, where have you been? As for the notch, I think it's superior design to having a full bezel, but that's just opinion. Certainly it's just preference, I like the notch and having no bottom bezel, you like having a small top and bottom bezel, neither of us are wrong.

In reality most of us utilize both iOS and Android and realize each has pluses and minuses.

Not me. I had the original galaxy note and only come back to apple when they brought out the 6 plus. Until then it was a hard pass from me and I started out with the iPhone 3G.

Another user who goes back and forth between iOS and Android, just like most of us do.

 

[co.ag.2005]

https://www.droid-life.com/2018/07/17/here-is-the-galaxy-note-9/