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Samsung Galaxy Note?

  • No, I am waiting for the next gen iPhone.

    Votes: 13 24.5%
  • No, I am happy with what I have got.

    Votes: 18 34.0%
  • Yes, I have already purchased one.

    Votes: 11 20.8%
  • Maybe, I am still undecided.

    Votes: 11 20.8%

  • Total voters
    53

chakraj

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It is so hard to figure out apples way of syncing. Android is way easier, you just log in with your google ID and everything is synced for you.

Apples way makes no sense at all and is much to hard, you cant just drag and drop like on android.

I dont know how people can figure out the apple way, its just much to complicated not easy like ICS android.
 

lilo777

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Apple made 2000% more money selling smartphones than Samsung?

This number is:

1) incorrect
2) irrelevant
 

chakraj

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Apple made 2000% more money selling smartphones than Samsung?

of course they did, they used older tech and cheaper parts that already had been out for a year.

So what you saying is that a company who uses old parts and less new tech in their top of the line device then charge more than anyone else for these devices make more money. Wow what a revelation.
 

nooaah

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Sales figures (popularity) doesn't EQUAL best either. Just because Rihanna can sell more records than Bob Dylan doesn't make her the greater artist. Steve Jobs would have agreed to that.

What I was saying was that specs don't matter to a certain extent and people get that. It'd be one thing if the iPhone had a 1MP back camera and an underclocked A4 with 64GB RAM. The difference between the two isn't big enough to trump the quality of the operating systems and the overall product builds. Steve Jobs would have agreed with that - which is true because he repeatedly green lighted these iPhone builds that were not "outspecing" the latest handset from HTC.

Best doesn't matter when the degree of "what's better" comes down to personal preference. If Samsung or HTC or Motorola came out with a far superior product, it would be reflected in sales figures. Bottom line.
 

chakraj

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If Samsung or HTC or Motorola came out with a far superior product, it would be reflected in sales figures. Bottom line.

Well not always, they sell a lot more cheap beer than they do Crystal Champagne, does that mean that cheap beer is better?

A lower quality product offering features that are more widely sought after will sell better than a better made specialized product.
 

nooaah

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Well not always, they sell a lot more cheap beer than they do Crystal Champagne, does that mean that cheap beer is better?

A lower quality product offering features that are more widely sought after will sell better than a better made specialized product.

Apples and oranges.
 

cynics

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What I was saying was that specs don't matter to a certain extent and people get that. It'd be one thing if the iPhone had a 1MP back camera and an underclocked A4 with 64GB RAM. The difference between the two isn't big enough to trump the quality of the operating systems and the overall product builds. Steve Jobs would have agreed with that - which is true because he repeatedly green lighted these iPhone builds that were not "outspecing" the latest handset from HTC.

Best doesn't matter when the degree of "what's better" comes down to personal preference. If Samsung or HTC or Motorola came out with a far superior product, it would be reflected in sales figures. Bottom line.

Key to success is marketing, this is nothing new in business. Apple is the master of marketing.

People will call every tablet on the planet an iPad, does that mean nothing else even exist? No it means apple has done a brilliant job keeping it in your face. I can't even think of a commercial from another tablet off the top of my head.

What you are saying is since Fiat makes more money then Rolls Royce then obviously Fiat makes a better product.
 

nooaah

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Key to success is marketing, this is nothing new in business. Apple is the master of marketing.

People will call every tablet on the planet an iPad, does that mean nothing else even exist? No it means apple has done a brilliant job keeping it in your face. I can't even think of a commercial from another tablet off the top of my head.

What you are saying is since Fiat makes more money then Rolls Royce then obviously Fiat makes a better product.

You people keep trying to come up with these clever comparisons. Stop trying to find metaphors. People seem to prefer iOS and the design of the iPhone. The iPhone is not a cheap device - a Rolls and a Fiat versus a 4S and a Note? Come on, that's just dishonest. If you enjoy your Android device then I'm happy for you. Why do you feel the urgency to convert the rest of us?
 

cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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You people keep trying to come up with these clever comparisons. Stop trying to find metaphors. People seem to prefer iOS and the design of the iPhone. The iPhone is not a cheap device - a Rolls and a Fiat versus a 4S and a Note? Come on, that's just dishonest. If you enjoy your Android device then I'm happy for you. Why do you feel the urgency to convert the rest of us?

You aren't seeing the metaphor though. You assume I'm saying an android is a rolls. I'm saying Fiat makes more money then Rolls yearly and it has zip to do with product quality. I'll spare you more accurate comparisons.

You have to see your own bias though. You assume since I can embrace something other then an Apple product I'm an Android user pushing it on other people.

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As I'm typing this from tapatalk on my 4s which I very much like.
 

chakraj

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Im not trying to convert anyone, I am only offering my experiences. and having a little fun along they way :)
 

cynics

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Im not trying to convert anyone, I am only offering my experiences. and having a little fun along they way :)

I mentioned this before. The problem is the amount of iPhone users that start Android threads on this forum. You can go weeks without seeing someone mention an iPhone on androidcentral, you can't go hours here without an iPhone user (not android user) starting a thread about android.

Then god forbid someone come along and like both products! Don't want to hear about it then dont bring it up!
 

nooaah

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You aren't seeing the metaphor though. You assume I'm saying an android is a rolls. I'm saying Fiat makes more money then Rolls yearly and it has zip to do with product quality. I'll spare you more accurate comparisons.

You have to see your own bias though. You assume since I can embrace something other then an Apple product I'm an Android user pushing it on other people.

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As I'm typing this from tapatalk on my 4s which I very much like.

No, I got it. I just don't care for comparisons. I'm just saying that people aren't going to buy one OS over another based on marginal hardware differences. When people say iPhones sell over Android devices due to marketing, it just makes me laugh.
 
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cynics

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I hate to ask because there is only two possible conclusions here. Unfortunately you have a mental handicap and FIVE sentences is in fact TOO long for you to read OR you are butt hurt about the truth I posted (this thread being the evidence).

Which one are you?

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You 3 should get a room :D

We have one. Get out of it!:D:D

NINJA EDIT lol, its five sentences lol...
 
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mysterioustko

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No, I got it. I just don't care for comparisons. I'm just saying that people aren't going to buy one OS over another based on marginal hardware differences. When people say iPhones sell over Android devices due to marketing, it just makes me laugh.

I don't think you can ignore how large of a part marketing plays in it. Take this for example: When I was working as a DSL technician, I used to go to people's houses every day all day. At least once a day, a customer would mistake my phone for an iPhone. When I'd tell them it wasn't an iPhone I often got the response "oh you should get an iPhone". I'd ask them why, and their response would be "it's the best". I'd ask them what made it the best, and literally not one person could tell me why, they just said it's what they heard or saw on television. They didn't know anything about the phone (heck they didn't even have one), yet they knew "it was the best" because of marketing. So when some people do go out and buy a phone, they don't know what other options are out there and if those options are better or not. They just know it's "the best" because of marketing. You'd be surprised how often this is the case. The average person doesn't know anything about smoothness comparisons, lag comparisons, browser speeds, device security, gpu's, interface differences, app differences, etc. The average person doesn't know anything about that. That is why marketing plays a MAJOR role in sales. The average person doesn't concern themselves with the minutia.
 
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dejo

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I don't think you can ignore how large of a part marketing plays in it. Take this for example: When I was working as a DSL technician, I used to go to people's houses every day all day. At least once a day, a customer would mistake my phone for an iPhone. When I'd tell them it wasn't an iPhone I often got the response "oh you should get an iPhone". I'd ask them why, and their response would be "it's the best". I'd ask them what made it the best, and literally not one person could tell me why, they just said it's what they heard or saw on television. They didn't know anything about the phone (heck they didn't even have one), yet they knew "it was the best" because of marketing. So when some people do go out and buy a phone, they don't know what other options are out there and if those options are better or not. They just know it's "the best" because of marketing. You'd be surprised how often this is the case. The average person doesn't know anything about smoothness comparisons, lag comparisons, browser speeds, device security, gpu's, interface differences, app differences, etc. The average person doesn't know anything about that. That is why marketing plays a MAJOR role in sales. The average person doesn't concern themselves with the minutia.

I have an axiom that speaks to this: the average consumer is an idiot.
 
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