Samsung Galaxy Note20 / Note20 Ultra

[Awesomesince86]

You seem to have a hard time understanding words like "many" or following your own topics

I have replied completely in context to your post quoted

Similarly I do not request you to prove "a lot" your double standards are apparent as too the consistency of replies

This sort of reply by you serves no useful purpose other to propagate arguments

I don't have a hard time understanding anything you say. It's the same condescending crap you post here everyday where you attempt to talk down to people to make yourself seem superior. It's tired and that's why I make it a point not to converse with you because frankly, you annoy me. But for whatever reason you seem dead set on quoting every comment I make, so here we are.

And this post isn't to propagate argument. It's to end it.

 

[Healer Flame]

We'll find out in 10 days if Note 20 worth a grand or not. They are desperate specs for desperate time but excellent idea from Samsung to boost sales and make the Note affordable.

 

[Awesomesince86]

We'll find out in 10 days if Note 20 worth a grand or not. They are desperate specs for desperate time but excellent idea from Samsung to boost sales and make the Note affordable.

I think making an affordable Note is a smart idea. I just don't think $1000 is really that affordable, especially given the concessions that were made to cut cost. But I guess we'll see. I just feel like $800 or so would've made it a lot more attractive and separated it from the Note Ultra a little more.

 

[Healer Flame]

The biggest downgrade is the screen resolution and front glass (not gorilla glas) otherwise everything else is not bad at all.

It 5G, 8 GB ram, 40 mp camera, 4300 mAh battery , other...
Here is a good comparison...

Compare Samsung Galaxy Note20 5G vs. Samsung Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G - GSMArena.com

m.gsmarena.com

 

[Dave245]

With the Surface Duo seeming imminent for launch, Samsung really should throw everything they have at the Note 20 and 20 Ultra. The Surface Duo will also have pen support so it will be interesting to see if they are launched around the same time.

compete for my money 😂 altho if the Duo is released around the same time I will end up getting it, simply because it’s a new device with 2 screens. That I want to try.

 

[The Game 161]

We'll find out in 10 days if Note 20 worth a grand or not. They are desperate specs for desperate time but excellent idea from Samsung to boost sales and make the Note affordable.

1k phone isn’t affordable though for most.

1k is flagship pricing. So i hope the note has features for flagship specs which from what i have read will be the case.

60hz? Well the iphone 12 pro will have that so we can’t bash Samsung and not apple. 120hz is really nice but people will still use the phone the same way it will just be a smoother process when scrolling.

3x optical zoom will be like the 12 pro as well so spec wise it’s fine.

The issue will be here the chip set in the note will not compare to the A14.

so what I’m trying to say here is the specs are fine as far as I’m concerned to consider it a flagship phone. I would have liked to see a less spec note 20 with a 700-800 price wise and kept the ultra as it was.

 

[jamezr]

The issue will be here the chip set in the note will not compare to the A14.

How will it not compare? I hear this every year when Apple releases a new iPhone. How their A series chips are so much better than anything Android has to offer. Then parade a bunch of benchmarks that show how much faster it is than the current lot of Qualcomm chips in Android phones.

But I buy every iPhone every year and I also buy most new Android flagship phones. But guess what...I have yet to see a difference side by side when using them. No difference...nada.....
All these benchmarks and performance gains models are negated when actually using the phones. You won't and can't tell the difference when actually using the phones.

I have had the S20+ and S20 Ultra Note 10+ and Pixel 4 XL on the Android side. I have the 11 Pro Max and for the life of me cannot tell a difference performance wise between any of those phones.

 

[The Game 161]

How will it not compare? I hear this every year when Apple releases a new iPhone. How their A series chips are so much better than anything Android has to offer. Then parade a bunch of benchmarks that show how much faster it is than the current lot of Qualcomm chips in Android phones.

But I buy every iPhone every year and I also buy most new Android flagship phones. But guess what...I have yet to see a difference side by side when using them. No difference...nada.....
All these benchmarks and performance gains models are negated when actually using the phones. You won't and can't tell the difference when actually using the phones.

I have had the S20+ and S20 Ultra Note 10+ and Pixel 4 XL on the Android side. I have the 11 Pro Max and for the life of me cannot tell a difference performance wise between any of those phones.

And how many of those android phones that you have is run by the exynos chip? If we are talking snapdragon then that’s a different talking point as that chip is far better the exynos.

There’s a reason samsung are getting heat for the rumours of the same exynos chip in the note 20 ultra. It’s simply isn’t as good as snapdragon in pretty much every area. You only have to search the internet/twitter where android users are complaining about this. If the issue of the exynos didn’t exist this certainly wouldn’t be such a hot topic.

The note 20 ultra gets an improved snapdragon chip yet non US/china markets gets the same one that’s in the S20 line? Sorry but that’s simply poor.

The last android phone i had was the S10 plus and that phone as good as it was spec wise the battery life was awful and had overheating issues. The same issues which are still happening now.

I will be buying the ultra and i will be very interested to see if this is still the case or if Samsung’s chip issues in non US markets are the still the same as before.

will exynos stop me from keeping it? Likely not as i won’t be using it as my daily driver but i would like to think they have done some upgrades to the chip at least.

2021 is likely the year samsung has a break through in high powered chips Based on rumours at least.

 

[Dave245]

And how many of those android phones that you have is run by the exynos chip? If we are talking snapdragon then that’s a different talking point as that chip is far better the exynos.

There’s a reason samsung are getting heat for the rumours of the same exynos chip in the note 20 ultra. It’s simply isn’t as good as snapdragon in pretty much every area. You only have to search the internet/twitter where android users are complaining about this. If the issue of the exynos didn’t exist this certainly wouldn’t be such a hot topic.

The note 20 ultra gets an improved snapdragon chip yet non US/china markets gets the same one that’s in the S20 line? Sorry but that’s simply poor.

The last android phone i had was the S10 plus and that phone as good as it was spec wise the battery life was awful and had overheating issues. The same issues which are still happening now.

I will be buying the ultra and i will be very interested to see if this is still the case or if Samsung’s chip issues in non US markets are the still the same as before.

will exynos stop me from keeping it? Likely not as i won’t be using it as my daily driver but i would like to think they have done some upgrades to the chip at least.

2021 is likely the year samsung has a break through in high powered chips Based on rumours at least.

The A14 will smoke the Exynos chip, Apple's chipset team are killing it. Look at the benchmarks with the iPad Pro, a tablet that even beats laptops and even the ARM Surface Pro X. IF Samsung use the Exynos chip on the Note Ultra, it will be a turn off for me, I will probably either wait for the Surface Duo and or the iPhone 12. Samsung can't keep using the Exynos chip for those of us in the U.K/Europe, at the same time as charging the same prices as those with the Snapdragon.

 

[The Game 161]

The A14 will smoke the Exynos chip, Apple's chipset team are killing it. Look at the benchmarks with the iPad Pro, a tablet that even beats laptops and even the ARM Surface Pro X. IF Samsung use the Exynos chip on the Note Ultra, it will be a turn off for me, I will probably either wait for the Surface Duo and or the iPhone 12. Samsung can't keep using the Exynos chip for those of us in the U.K/Europe, at the same time as charging the same prices as those with the Snapdragon.

Well they say the snadragon 865 was already 30% better than the exynos 1990 so god knows what the 865+ will be better than the exynos. I have seen many say they won’t buy the note due to the exynos chip but i will at least try it.

Those in the snapdragon region won’t understand or care about the exynos shortcomings And may try to dismiss it but the issue is there.

 

[michael9891]

If I were to buy a Note 20 variant, I'll just import one and save myself at least £200 in the process.

No, it's not good that they use different performing chips in different regions. But you don't have to buy what you consider weaker, options are available.

Also, when people talk of one chip "smoking" another, that's usually when people are hung up on specs and benchmarks. Like it makes a difference anyway when you're comparing different brand phones.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Flagship chips at this point are just about future proofing. Benchmarks are just bragging points right now as the top Snapdragon and Apple chips are already overkill.

With the Surface Duo seeming imminent for launch, Samsung really should throw everything they have at the Note 20 and 20 Ultra. The Surface Duo will also have pen support so it will be interesting to see if they are launched around the same time.

compete for my money 😂 altho if the Duo is released around the same time I will end up getting it, simply because it’s a new device with 2 screens. That I want to try.

The Duo looked interesting, but aren't the specs pretty suspect? I could be wrong but I thought I saw it had Pixel levels of RAM and insufficient battery size.

1k phone isn’t affordable though for most.

1k is flagship pricing. So i hope the note has features for flagship specs which from what i have read will be the case.

60hz? Well the iphone 12 pro will have that so we can’t bash Samsung and not apple. 120hz is really nice but people will still use the phone the same way it will just be a smoother process when scrolling.

3x optical zoom will be like the 12 pro as well so spec wise it’s fine.

The issue will be here the chip set in the note will not compare to the A14.

so what I’m trying to say here is the specs are fine as far as I’m concerned to consider it a flagship phone. I would have liked to see a less spec note 20 with a 700-800 price wise and kept the ultra as it was.

The regular Note 20 will have a plastic back, worse cameras, a 1080p screen, low refresh, worse Spen latency, less RAM and no expandable storage. Everything else seems to be pretty much the same. Most of those I can get on board with in the name of cost cutting. But personally, I would not spend 1k on a 1080p, low refresh screen with a relatively low pixel density as well.

This may just.be my preference, but I'm never going back to a low refresh 1080p screen in 2020 unless I'm getting a budget device. For a flagship 1k phone, having a great screen is a must and 1080p low refresh is a really big compromise for still paying that much.

 

[The Game 161]

Flagship chips at this point are just about future proofing. Benchmarks are just bragging points right now as the top Snapdragon and Apple chips are already overkill.



The Duo looked interesting, but aren't the specs pretty suspect? I could be wrong but I thought I saw it had Pixel levels of RAM and insufficient battery size.



The regular Note 20 will have a plastic back, worse cameras, a 1080p screen, low refresh, worse Spen latency, less RAM and no expandable storage. Everything else seems to be pretty much the same. Most of those I can get on board with in the name of cost cutting. But personally, I would not spend 1k on a 1080p, low refresh screen with a relatively low pixel density as well.

This may just.be my preference, but I'm never going back to a low refresh 1080p screen in 2020 unless I'm getting a budget device. For a flagship 1k phone, having a great screen is a must and 1080p low refresh is a really big compromise for still paying that much.

Guessing you won’t buy the new iPhone then? As that will sport 60hz

Don’t think it’s been confirmed plastic back yet and camera wise it should still be level of S20. However yes if it’s 1k as well may as well get the ultra for couple hundred more to get everything

 

[Awesomesince86]

Guessing you won’t buy the new iPhone then? As that will sport 60hz

Don’t think it’s been confirmed plastic back yet and camera wise it should still be level of S20. However yes if it’s 1k as well may as well get the ultra for couple hundred more to get everything

If the iPhone 12 is 60hz youre right, I won't buy it. But again, I've heard several people here talk about that like it's already been confirmed. A lot of the most popular leakers are still saying the iPhone 12 will have some 120hz models. So I don't think we know either way yet.

 

[Ludatyk]

If the iPhone 12 is 60hz youre right, I won't buy it. But again, I've heard several people here talk about that like it's already been confirmed. A lot of the most popular leakers are still saying the iPhone 12 will have some 120hz models. So I don't think we know either way yet.

Tbh, maybe I'm the minority here. But I don't see a reason for the iPhone to receive 120hz. When it comes to scrolling performance and overall interaction with iOS, the iPhone is superb.

This idea that Apple needs to upgrade it to 120hz that's been available on Android phones... just doesn't make any sense to me. Android has so many hands involved in terms of Google and other OEMs. Scrolling on Android via web browsing was a problem for years... Apple has had that nailed from the start.

I mean, I get it... its one of those marketing points to mention "does your phone have this." But in all my years of having a iPhone, scrolling performance was solid. Now, I can't argue against bugs.. that happens. But 60hz was never a problem for me... and I would guess the average Joe wouldn't be bothered by it.

 

[The Game 161]

Tbh, maybe I'm the minority here. But I don't see a reason for the iPhone to receive 120hz. When it comes to scrolling performance and overall interaction with iOS, the iPhone is superb.

This idea that Apple needs to upgrade it to 120hz that's been available on Android phones... just doesn't make any sense to me. Android has so many hands involved in terms of Google and other OEMs. Scrolling on Android via web browsing was a problem for years... Apple has had that nailed from the start.

I mean, I get it... its one of those marketing points to mention "does your phone have this." But in all my years of having a iPhone, scrolling performance was solid. Now, I can't argue against bugs.. that happens. But 60hz was never a problem for me... and I would guess the average Joe wouldn't be bothered by it.

Well yeah the average customer won’t tell the difference. My wife has the iPad Pro with 120hz and her response when if she could tell the difference from her iPhone 11 to the iPad? Huh what is pro motion?

i can tell the difference as a tech person who knows what it is but most people won’t unless they are being told this feature is worth getting. When apple do add it they will no doubt promote it as a killer feature from the iPad.

i do really want 120hz but will i use my phone any differently from 60hz to 120hz? No it’s just nice to have.

 

[jamezr]

And how many of those android phones that you have is run by the exynos chip? If we are talking snapdragon then that’s a different talking point as that chip is far better the exynos.

There’s a reason samsung are getting heat for the rumours of the same exynos chip in the note 20 ultra. It’s simply isn’t as good as snapdragon in pretty much every area. You only have to search the internet/twitter where android users are complaining about this. If the issue of the exynos didn’t exist this certainly wouldn’t be such a hot topic.

The note 20 ultra gets an improved snapdragon chip yet non US/china markets gets the same one that’s in the S20 line? Sorry but that’s simply poor.

The last android phone i had was the S10 plus and that phone as good as it was spec wise the battery life was awful and had overheating issues. The same issues which are still happening now.

I will be buying the ultra and i will be very interested to see if this is still the case or if Samsung’s chip issues in non US markets are the still the same as before.

will exynos stop me from keeping it? Likely not as i won’t be using it as my daily driver but i would like to think they have done some upgrades to the chip at least.

2021 is likely the year samsung has a break through in high powered chips Based on rumours at least.

doesn't matter if it is Exynos or Qualcomm. Most people that have had the Exynos have reported no issues.
They only know the Exynos has issues by reading it somewhere like here on MR.

I still stand by my post... most of the people will not know the difference using a Qualcomm SD or Exynos chip or an A14.
In everyday use they will not know the difference.

Then you still haven't said one thing to back this up as benchmarks don't mean squat except to brag about them....

The issue will be here the chip set in the note will not compare to the A14.

You didn't say anything about it being Qualcomm or Exynos. But it doesn't matter as the vast majority of people will not notice any difference.

Then every chip-set has issues...Qualcomm does and so does Exynos and so does Apple's chips. So all that negates each other.

 

[Klyster]

doesn't matter if it is Exynos or Qualcomm. Most people that have had the Exynos have reported no issues.
They only know the Exynos has issues by reading it somewhere like here on MR.

I still stand by my post... most of the people will not know the difference using a Qualcomm SD or Exynos chip or an A14.
In everyday use they will not know the difference.

Then you still haven't said one thing to back this up as benchmarks don't mean squat except to brag about them....


You didn't say anything about it being Qualcomm or Exynos. But it doesn't matter as the vast majority of people will not notice any difference.

Then every chip-set has issues...Qualcomm does and so does Exynos and so does Apple's chips. So all that negates each other.

Haha, exactly, I think its more whinging rights than anything.

New Zealand is an exynos market, thats what chip I've used for years.

I've read the comparisons and I'm sure if I had both devices side by side, I might be able to find something to complain about but I've been happy with how my phones have been.

That said, would I prefer the Snapdragon? Well yeah of course, if there's a tangible positive difference, you'd be a fool to say otherwise but will it stop me buying a Exynos device? No, I'll probably be pre-ordering when the bundles appear, this is the Note.
There's no other phone out there like it, its a premium device and having an Exynos processor isn't going to change that, unless you actively monitor specific differences, which no-one outside a few people do anyway.

I'd honestly be more thrilled with a return of the IR blaster over a Snapdragon.

 

[Awesomesince86]

Tbh, maybe I'm the minority here. But I don't see a reason for the iPhone to receive 120hz. When it comes to scrolling performance and overall interaction with iOS, the iPhone is superb.

This idea that Apple needs to upgrade it to 120hz that's been available on Android phones... just doesn't make any sense to me. Android has so many hands involved in terms of Google and other OEMs. Scrolling on Android via web browsing was a problem for years... Apple has had that nailed from the start.

I mean, I get it... its one of those marketing points to mention "does your phone have this." But in all my years of having a iPhone, scrolling performance was solid. Now, I can't argue against bugs.. that happens. But 60hz was never a problem for me... and I would guess the average Joe wouldn't be bothered by it.

If you've used both, you would understand the difference. Either one will feel normal and smooth after a while of using just that phone. But I had the iPhone 11 pro max at the same time as the S20 plus I use now. The difference in scrolling was night and day. The S20 was much, much smoother because of the 120 hz refresh.

 

[yui4]

The snap dragon v exynos chip is a non issue for near enough everybody as, short of importing a phone, people only get the chipset for their region. I’m in the uk and it’s exynos only. Differences between that and the snapdragon are irrelevant considering I only have access to the one variant!

 

[Shanghaichica]

The galaxy watch 3 looks nice!!

 

[Mellofello808]

The snap dragon v exynos chip is a non issue for near enough everybody as, short of importing a phone, people only get the chipset for their region. I’m in the uk and it’s exynos only. Differences between that and the snapdragon are irrelevant considering I only have access to the one variant!

If I loved in a non SD region I simply wouldn't be buying their phones.

Charging top dollar for less performance than the competition, isn't something I would support.

 

[michael9891]

If I loved in a non SD region I simply wouldn't be buying their phones.

Charging top dollar for less performance than the competition, isn't something I would support.

Easy to say, but I don't believe that. If you loved what the Note had to offer, but gave you slightly less performance than a different region, you wouldn't pass it up.

Living in and buying SD region phone from Samsung is still supporting them.

 

[Dave245]

That is one hell of a high price tag for the Note 20 Ultra

Samsung Galaxy Note 20 series pricing allegedly leaked, and it is bad news

Those yearning for Samsung's latest Note-series flagship will have to pay a pretty penny to own one.

pocketnow.com

 

[michael9891]

Shame there's no 4G Ultra. I'm sure there's plenty of people who don't care about the extra speed (and possible extra battery drain) on a 5G version.